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skylarynn-ninjago · 2 years ago
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Seasons
I’ve reworked some things recently, and I wanted to give an outline of my rewrite, at least from the pilot season to Crystalized.
1 - Masters of Spinjitzu
The pilot season.  Major changes:  Honestly not much of anything.  The plot and character interactions remain largely the same.
2 - Rise of the Snakes
Season 1 in the normal count.  Major changes: Also not all that different from the source material.  
3 - Legacy of the Green Ninja
Season 2 in the normal count.  Major changes: The introduction of my first oc about halfway through the season; Koko Montgomery, younger sister of Misako and Lloyd’s aunt.  Other than that I don’t think much is really altered.
4 - Rebooted
Season 3 in the normal count.  Major changes: Largely goes as the original did, though Koko gets involved in the plot towards the end.
5 - Tournament of Elements
Season 4 in the normal count.  Major changes: Not only is Koko present, but also the introduction of yet another oc; Viridian Kagami, scion of the renowned Kagami clan of Domu and entered in the Tournament as the Master of Glass.
6 - Possession
Season 5 in the normal count.  Major changes: Once again Koko is involved [though later in the season], but also introducing; Cerulea, or just Lea, adoptive younger sister of Ronin.  
7 - Skybound
Season 6 in the normal count.  Major changes: No idea, I haven’t rewatched the season for notes quite yet.  
8 - Escape from Tera Uragiri
The first fan season.  Focuses on Ronin and explains how the Jade Emperor and Empress had the Oni Mask of Deception at the beginning of Sons of Garmadon.  Based rather heavily on the Escape from New York and Escape From LA movies.
9 - Echoes of Memory
Another fan season, though it’s more of a miniseries.  Details how Echo Zane is retrieved from the lighthouse and actually becomes part of the Ninjas’ little family.
10 - Day of the Departed
The holiday special.  Major changes: Li’l Nelson will be involved like the showrunners originally had scripted, and also Morro will have a more active role in saving Cole.
11 - Hands of Time
Season 7 in the normal count.  Major changes: A few additional episodes focusing on Ronin and Dareth post-Ronin’s broken leg.  They’ll be interacting with a third character that I’m not naming because I want it to be a surprise.
12 - Decoded
Uh, sorta a miniseries in the normal count? [is this even canon?]  Major changes: Echo’s involved this time I guess, and it’s less of just recapping the show for Sons of Garmadon.
13 - Obsession
The third fan season.  Kai learns he has a stalker, but unlike crazed fans Kai has dealt with before, this one wants to destroy the element of fire and its master.  [Also yes I totally ripped the concept for this from The Flame That Burns Too Brightly]
14 - Sons of Garmadon
Season 8 in the normal count.  Major changes: Changes to the lore of Oni and Dragons, namely that there’s more than 3 Oni masks.  Also Echo being involved.
15 - Hunted
Season 9 in the normal count.  Major changes: On the Ninjago side of the plotline, some ocs become part of Lloyd’s resistance [mostly Lea and Koko], and he gets help from an unlikely ally.
16 - March of the Oni
Season 10 in the normal count.  Major changes: Additional member of the Ninja team.  Also Echo’s involved.
17 - Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu: The Fire Chapter
Season 11, part 1, in the normal count.  Major changes: Aforementioned additional Ninja and Echo being involved.
18 - Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu: The Ice Chapter
Season 11, part 2, in the normal count.  Major changes: Additional Ninja and Echo.  
19 - Prime Empire
Season 12 in the normal count.  Major changes: Addition of the additional Ninja and Echo; also Jay’s mom shows up and we get a new oc in the form of his sister, Ivy Gordon.
20 - Master of the Mountain
Season 13 in the normal count.  Major changes: The additional Ninja.
21 - Malediction
The fourth fan season.  Focuses on the additional Ninja I keep mentioning.  Also has to do with Lea, and finally has Clouse being dealt with after he escaped the Cursed Realm all the way back in Skybound.
22 - The Island
Either season 14 or a miniseries in the normal count.  Major changes: Ronin isn’t actually the criminal behind the shenanigans, and it turns out to be the Mechanic.  I made this choice because the way I characterize Ronin, and with the [extensive] backstory I gave him he would not do what he does in the Island.  Also, has Lea officially join the Ninja.
23 - Throne of Glass
The fifth fan season.  Focuses on Lea, and explains who becomes the new Jade Emperor and Empress after Harumi nuked them in Sons of Garmadon.  Also introduces the concept of Dragon Amulets, which counter each of the Oni Masks.
24 - Seabound
Either season 14 or season 15 in the normal count, depending on how you count The Island.  Major changes: Additional Ninja [including Lea], Echo’s involved, Ronin’s involved in trying to help Nya figure out what’s up with her powers, and Nya is not the only character to merge with their element by the end.  
25 - Crystalized, Part I
Season 15-16 in the normal count, again dependent on The Island.  Major changes: Additional Ninja, Echo’s involved, and Nya is not the only one getting their powers taken away so they’re no longer merged with their element.  Also there’s a tiger now.
26 - Crystalized, Part II
Season 15-16 in the normal count, dependent on The Island.  Major changes: Complete overhaul of Garmadon’s characterization and his subplot with Lloyd.  It just didn’t seem true to his character to me.  Also additional Ninja and Echo.  
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star-light-shadows · 1 year ago
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I can see a lot of where you're coming from with this but at the same time, I'd have to confirm that I just don't agree with this perspective.
Yes, Nya wanted to be part of the Boys club, but in my mind, the Green Ninja scene showed that she had grown past any desire to be just like everyone else in favor of being as strong as everyone else in her own way.
Sure the way Samurai X was continuously sidelined instead of being properly included in the team is lame, but I still love the idea of a character proving to be just as capable as the super-powered people in the series through sheer ingenuity and grit. And if any character was going to be that character, Nya fits 110 percent.
I can't help but focalize on the fact that Samurai X was introduced as being Overpowered compared to the Ninja.
The Time travel episode in Season 2 especially highlighted this by having Nya not get captured and make the choice to train under Sensei Wu even when Kai was apathetic to the whole scenario. In this timeline she was on the way to becoming a Ninja as a result of her own ambition, consistent with the main timeline where when her brother gains powers and supercedes her, she still ends up becoming a capable warrior on her own through different means. (Side-Note ever since I was a kid I was honestly salty she didn't become the Ninja of Fire in this timeline.)
Sometimes people stop wanting what they once wanted, especially if they find an alternative. It makes perfect sense for Nya to no longer want to be another Ninja when she can and has been more.
(Also, minor gripe, but, honestly Water was the single most unfitting element Nya could have been given. I'm not going to pretend like I thought of this myself, but give the badass headstrong mechanic girl the power of metal, you idiots.)
Even if she was made to be ecstatic and smug about finally getting powers like the others, I could probably forgive it if they had just let her stay a Samurai rather than making her another Ninja.
I'm not even talking about her keeping the hulking Mecha suit, just having an outfit that's more Samurai-like and less Ninja-like, and letting her keep and make frequent use of gadgets she invented herself.
Even just that would go a long-ass way in keeping what made Nya Nya.
And with the role of Ninja not being forced on her like your suggestion, her falling into a groove would be infinitely more digestible. I understand the concept of a character's arc being over and them being allowed to breathe as a result, but when the resolution to their arc was in itself bad that turns into a writing flaw. (And really scenarios like that should try to do new things with the character anyway, rather than letting the character completely stagnate.)
And frankly I just flat out don't see any of what you're saying about Seabound. From what I remember she couldn't/didn't use her powers for anything pretty much the entire season, and to say she exercised agency is being real generous given the entire plot of the season basically forced her into every single situation.
There's also the way the season pushed that Water was Nya's thing so hard that it literally felt like Water was Nya's entire character. Having her constantly be pissy because she can't use her powers, and having her act like "No one understands the element like I do" and crap like that.
(Also there's a difference between losing access to her powers like the other Ninja constantly do and her powers actively backfiring on her, which in the face of all the other narrative disrespect I described just comes off as adding injury to insult.)
A rant all about how Nya's character was ruined.
This summarizes and extends upon a conversation had on this post, by @parachutingkitten
Nya's entire character in Seasons 1-4 was about her being strong on her own merits and independent and being her own person, instead of being what others expect of her or trying to imitate her peers' strengths. She even deliberately turned down the chance to check if she was destined to be the prestigious Green Ninja, because she was happy with being a Samurai instead, cause that was the identity and strength she built for herself.
The uniqueness in her skillset and role on the team was in itself a crucial part of what MADE her character strong and independent. It was a path she chose for herself in contrast to any of the outside influences she had.
Season 5 making Nya a Ninja, especially under Wu's insistence and explicitly against her will, sabotages every part of all of this.
Now She's a shell of her former self with everything that made her character actually interesting either stripped away outright or turned into a bland and weak facsimile. All she has left to give her even a modicum of character depth is some vague sense of independence that is constantly shown-not-told and/or outright undermined.
She rightfully gripes about being forced to be the gray Ninja in seasons 6 and 7, but both seasons then proceed to deliberately undermine her independence, with Season 6 ending with her will being overridden by Jay's and Genie magic, and Season 7 introducing a new Samurai X.(Which I have more to say about later.) Nya's discontent with her situation gets dropped entirely, with Nya effectively resigning to her fate.
From then until all the way in Seabound, there's no pushback against her independent nature to highlight that she IS strong or independent, and nothing else to give her any other character depth. She literally becomes a glorified water fountain that also happens to be married to the electric one.
And then Seabound is somehow even WORSE.
Seabound's ENTIRE plot is literally summarized as "Nya getting screwed over by her powers: The Movie." Powers that she wasn't originally supposed to have, mind you, not just out-of-universe, but as this Season reveals, apparently IN-universe. (I don't even KNOW what that's about.)
The story yet again does an ass job at portraying Nya as independent and then screws her over. Yet even worse than Seasons 6 and 7, because it literally amounts to her being mildly annoyed at her mother's presence and the brain-dead arc-phrase of "I don't like crumbly cookies," culminating in her resigning to her apparent fate yet again and literally sacrificing her sense of self and identity to her elemental powers.
Seabound's ending is frankly one big metaphor for what Season 5 did to her character.
They also, weirdly consistently, screwed Nya's character using Pixal. Prior to Season 8, she was flat as cardboard and yet was undeservedly given the Samurai X mantle. Then the Season 8/Movie redesign traded in Nya's iconic and unique hairstyle for one literally identical to Pixal's. And Pixal even stole Nya's role as the Mechie,(despite already being the techie) a field where she reaches ridiculous heights by the time of Crystalized. (Speaking of which:)
Crystalized puts a cherry on top of this character-assassination sundae by finally separating Nya from that accursed element, and having her even make the choice to take back her Samurai X identity, but then it, despite the main threat of the 2nd chapter literally being the exact situation where Samurai Nya should be MVP, randomly proves pointless and ineffective, forcing Nya to come running back to her elemental powers. (Even worse, for the sake of CRYING FOR HELP.)
It's like she has some kind of toxic relationship with the element of water that fate and the writers are actively pushing and preventing from being severed.
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i-love-ninjago-kai · 2 years ago
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Don’t worry guys just crying over how unequivocally tragic Kai’s character is
#txt#kai#kai ninjago#LISTEN i KNOW it is not intentional on the writer's part because at its core Ninjago is a kid's show#And I know I write some dark stuff pertaining to his character when the show is NEVER that deep but just#look at the kid's life and how are you not like... Dude#I know Kai is NOT the fandom's typical favorite believe me I know#but holy hell#Have any of yall looked deeper at this kid#So drummed into his head that he needs to protect and the only way to do that is through respect which you get with power#and once the concept of the green ninja is introduced Kai wants it more than anything#less so because it would make him feel good but because Kai has just always been s so so afraid that he cannot be enough to save everyone#but as the green ninja he could#and then he realizes that it is not his burden to bare but this little child#and though disappointed Kai still takes up the responsibility of taking care of Lloyd without a second thought#because that is what he knows and he doesnt know who he is besides that#Everyone always focuses on how arrogant he can seem -- hes not btw. he is a normal teenage boy#but sometimes it feels like it is just a sounding board for just how alone and terrified Kai is of messing up#failure in any sense makes him seize up and close in on himself because his life has ben PROVIDING and WORKING and PROTECTING#and if he is put in a sitution where he can't do that#it breaks him#Zane's death is a prime example of thatt#Kai literally CANNOT handle the fact that he failed to protect someone he loves and it kills him enough to wish he had taken Zane's place#and it never gets resolved. ever#Kai never gets that security -- and I dont expect him to#kids show. I know. But... Shit. it hurts#ninjago#ninjago kai
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ninjago-bingo · 3 years ago
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final month recap
wow, everyone.  we’re here.  we’ve made it.  we’re reached the end of our bingo time, and i’m absolutely floored by the sheer creative output that i’ve seen over these last four months.  everyone, take a moment to give yourself a pat on the back!!!  no matter if you made 1 piece or 10, there’s now a work of art out there in the world that wasn’t there before.  and truly, that’s super heccing rad no matter how you look at it.
so let’s celebrate!  for this recap, we have a total of 20 new pieces, bringing the total amount of ninbingo pieces up to 50.  in the span of four months, this little event has created 50 individual works (five of them in the last day!)  holy cow ya’ll.
i’m putting out this recap now, but don’t worry, it’s not the end yet!  any submissions made to the end of the 30th still count and this post will be updated accordingly :D
fic:
all the things i’ve never done by @sa-you-na-ra. tumblr || prompts: competition and teasing
It’s always a funny thing when the ninja realize new things about each other. Even though living with each other meant they had to see each other all day, there were still small habits or actions that amused the others.
(mod comments: all these little interactions made me smile so much :D looking forward to the rest!)
error 404: answer not found by @m-aster-of-spinjitzu. tumblr || prompt: memories
Akita and Zane talk after the battle in ‘Awakenings’. The conversation… doesn’t go as either of them expect.
(mod comments: the nuances in this fic are fantastic!  also Akita is always a win :D)
Five times kai was a good brother by @/master-of-fluff. tumblr || ao3 || prompts: nightmare and brother
I'm writing kai centric stuff again.
(mod comments: kai IS the big bro of the team!!! i support him all the way!!)
How Garmadon became a chauffeur by @master-of-fluff. tumblr || ao3 || prompt: driving
"um...Kai? Don't you think we should go Slower?" Garmadon asked nervously trying not to panick as they raced down the road at what had to be over the speed limit.
(mod comments: who let Kai drive?  no but honestly this is canon alskdfj)
little things by @/rosiehunterwolf. tumblr || ao3 || ffn.net || prompts: hugs and crying.
"Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you'll look back and realize they were the big things." -Kurt Vonnegut
Lloyd’s tired of being left behind. How is he meant to be the green ninja when he always has to work harder, train better, and wait longer to go on missions with his team? He wants nothing more than to be their equal.
At least, that’s what he thought he wanted.
(mod comments: a post-ep-18 resolution scene?  SIGN ME UP!)
Neither Snow Nor Rain by @fangirltakesall. tumblr || ffn.net || prompt: post-fight
After their return from the Never Realm and all its troubles, Zane is quiet and Nya is incredibly worried. A call to action to a peculiar sort of battle might be enough to change both of those things.
(mod comments: the concept of these two on their own mission together is just so good! excited to see how their dynamic plays out!!)
Never Put Off Until Tomorrow by @/rosiehunterwolf. tumblr || ao3 || ffn.net || prompts: video games and chores
…what can be done today, yada, yada, yada, we all know the saying. So do the ninja- when Master Wu is drilling it into their heads every minute of every day, it’s kind of hard to forget.
Naturally, it only takes them a week (and the biggest new video game in Ninjago) to do so.
(mod comments: this is so in character that it’s frustrating lol.  also Pixal ftw!!)
oh take me back to the start by @/rosiehunterwolf. tumblr || ao3 || ffn.net || prompts: comfort and 3 am
The past should be left in the past. Or, at least, that’s what Jay keeps telling himself. Nadakhan is gone. It’s not logical to still be afraid. But he is, and now everything that he left behind suddenly feels like it’s never going to be the same again.
Cole isn’t so convinced.
(mod comments: Cole is truly the man we all deserve in our lives.)
On Our Own by @redefine-your-identity. tumblr || prompt: home
It’s been a few weeks since Kai and Nya’s parents disappeared without a trace. Needless to say, they’re struggling.
(mod comments: OU C H no poor babies 😭 the relationship dynamic here is great!)
orange and gold by @/m-aster-of-spinjitzu. tumblr || prompt: cooking
...I just need more Cole and Vania content, they seem like they'd be great friends.
Basically it's just 'Cole goes to visit her there, they almost burn down the kitchen, and make way too many puns', lol.
(mod comments: I also always need more Vania content!! the puns in this were breadful!)
permafrost by @/rosiehunterwolf. tumblr || ao3 || ffn.net || prompts: loss of control and promise
It’s not like this is the first time this has happened. It’s not like none of his teammates have ever suffered this kind of guilt and pain. It’s not like Zane himself hasn’t walked through hell before and come out the other side (mostly) in once piece.
Except, this time, it is. It shouldn’t be different, but it is.
(mod comments: super sweet moment between two ninja who deserve more interaction like seriously!!)
Precautionary Tale by @/fangirltakesall. tumblr || ffn.net || prompt: protective
Fighting is different now, and Zane doesn't know why. Yes, he is titanium now, but why should that change anything? It seems to be changing everything, although is all really as it seems?
(mod comments: a great start to a zane-centric fic!  interested to see where it goes next :D)
Star-Ninja! by @rosiehunterwolf. tumblr || ao3 || ffn.net || prompts: siblings and competition 
What happens when the loveable gremlin the ninja adopted off of the streets introduces them to Starfarer comics?
Chaos ensues, of course.
stuck with you (through bright and blue) by @/rosiehunterwolf. tumblr || ao3 || ffn.net || prompt: protective
Kai only wants two things: to protect Lloyd, and to give him the best birthday ever. Unfortunately, Lloyd seems hell-bent on making that as difficult as possible. Kai’s always prided himself on achieving the impossible, but dealing with human emotions is much more complicated than beating up Garmadon’s generals or shooting enemies with fire, as he quickly learns. Movie!verse
(mod comments: happy birthday lloyd!! look at him getting the love he deserves uwu)
Take a walk in the rain. by @/master-of-fluff. tumblr || ao3 || prompt: rain
Cole had always loved the rain, the way it smelled, the way it felt on his skin, and especially the mud! Whenever it rained his Mother would put on his rain coat and boots And they'd both go out and splash around in the puddles and make mud cakes and do all sorts of things.
(mod comments: this fic made me smile a lot :D loved the way it was arranged!) 
the hues of an empty sky by @/m-aster-of-spinjitzu. tumblr || prompt: crying
Missing memories, or having two of them for one moment - not quite the same, but if there’s one thing Jay’s leant over the last few weeks, it’s that literally nothing makes sense anymore.
Or, some Skybound aftermath, Zane actually expressing emotions about his memory switch being turned off for all those years, and what was supposed to be a ‘they tell everyone about the erased timeline’ fic, but it turned into a 'two characters who barely interact on screen talk at like one am in the morning, and don’t actually tell the other what exactly they’re alluding to the whole time’ fic that I wrote at like one am-
(mod comments: Skybound resolution? SIGN ME THE HECK UP YES)
The Make-Cole-Realize-How-Much-We-Love-Him Competition by @21st-century-ninja. tumblr || ao3 || prompts: bets and competition
Jay and Kai share a horrified look.  “He really doesn’t get it,” Jay says.
Kai shakes his head.  “We need to show him somehow.”
“Show me what?” Cole asks, exasperated again.  
“How much we love you!” Kai exclaims.  “Somehow, it’s not getting through your thick skull that we want to sit next to you because you’re you, so I’m gonna have to just prove it to you.”
(mod comments: a silly little movie fic!)
twitter was a mistake by @/21st-century-ninja. tumblr || ao3 || prompts: teasing and birthday
Kai 🔥 @flaminhotninja ☑
so who was gonna tell me that Jay used to be a game show host huh
🌺✨ the Gift of Jay ✨🌺 @zaptrap ☑
Replying to @flaminhotninja
NO WHO SHOWED YOU
(mod comments: twitter was a mistake)
two halves of a broken whole by @/rosiehunterwolf. tumblr || ao3 || ffn.net || prompts: scars and post-fight
The Sons of Garmadon have been defeated. Garmadon is in prison. The city has been saved.
In the aftermath of the battle, Nya is more than ready to take a much-needed break. But the life of a ninja is messy. Recovery is never that simple. Although the wounds may have healed, the scars still remain.
Zane’s scars seem to match up, though. And maybe together, they can begin to heal.
(mod comments: aggressive care is my jam, and this is it!)
wait by @rosiehunterwolf. tumblr || ao3 || ffn.net || prompts: home and memories
Lloyd’s not so great at being patient. It’s not his fault though- maybe he would be better at it if waiting didn’t always end up being so disappointing- if people actually kept their promises. But this time’s going to be different, he knows it. His father will come back for him. And Lloyd’s going to wait.
As long as it takes.
(mod comments: baby.  baby boy.  baby.  protecc him plz.)
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