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thesaltyoceanwaves · 3 years

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Adrien’s Room and Memorabilia: A Sequel Post

Well, I hinted at a similar arc for Adrien in this post, so let’s brainstorm.

CW: mentions of harassment

The major difference between Adrien and Marinette in this instance is that Mari’s room is about her working through her social anxieties and developing meaningful relationships. Adrien’s focus is on his lonely nature, as well as discovering and cultivating hobbies that he really enjoys, and aren’t just forced upon him by his father.

His room starts off with very few photos of his loved ones, namely his parents, Chloe and Felix. These photos are professional in nature, clean, crisp and very much lacking in color. Even Chloe and Felix are behaving for the sake of the photos. Notably, their photos show them when they are much younger, to indicate that Adrien hasn’t spent time with them lately.

There’s a large emphasis placed on the amount of stuff that Adrien has in his room. The video games, the TV, the climbing wall, etc. Everything is completely clean and dust free, because he spends a lot of time in his room, but he doesn’t have anything he’s particularly drawn toward, so whenever he’s done with something, he puts it away and grabs something else. His room is also likely clean due to his strict father demanding he keep up appearances.

The only exception to this are video games, but they are very specific ones: simulators. Particularly, ones that focus on dating and romance. Life simulators, farming simulators, RPGs that offer a romance subplot, etc. Even if the sim only offers the option to make friends, Adrien is fine with that. Stuff like Animal Crossing, Stardew Valley, Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons (the ones made by Marvelous), The Sims, Undertale and so forth are right up his valley. And again, lots of dating sims.

Following his mother’s “passing,” and at the start of the show, Adrien keeps a corner of his room dedicated to her. As more time goes by and Adrien gets closer to his new friends, this will shrink down to a photo of the two of them, and most of her memorabilia will be stored away. This will show that he’s open to the possibility of his father dating someone else, as was shown in “Felix”.

He will often turn to photos of his mother when he wants deeper, more worrying thoughts that he wants to voice and get off his chest, or if he needs advice about something and he doesn’t know who to turn to. S1 would focus more on friendship advice, because in this version, he would need to put in more time and care to make friends (Nino and him would still stay buds, Mari is still crushing on him but is hesitant to approach, and Alya is kind but cautious, with the rest of the class being wary because of his friendship with Chloe). Later on, he’s more likely to ask about plot-relevant stuff, his feelings for Ladybug and Kagami (and romance in general), his growing resentment towards his father, his meet-ups with his friends, and his discomfort with Chloe and Lila’s touchiness. Coupled with Felix’s harassment in “Felix,” this causes Adrien to realize his boundaries are being violated, and to also wonder if he has adopted similar behaviors. He goes to speak with either Sabine, Tomoe or Nino’s mom about the matter (maybe all three to get a variety of perspectives), and then with Ladybug. I would set this conversation sometime after “Frozer,” with him mentioning how he acted there, and apologizing for leaving her in the middle of battle (if the episode isn’t rewritten to include that there).

Overtime, he would start to depend less on talking to Emilie’s photo, and instead talk to whoever he asked for advice. Instead, he would talk to her prior to a larger battle or facing a bigger threat and had something he wanted to get off his chest.

At the beginning of their superhero career, Adrien is into collecting Ladybug merch - he’s likely to even have one of those “Do it for her” boards set up. He has some Chat Noir stuff as well, but it’s not as prominent. When other heroes arrive on the scene, he’ll have stuff of them too. He would even go so far as to recreate the heroes in his games (mostly in what Sims knock-off this universe would have), and roleplay scenarios with Ladybug. He doesn’t fully get rid of his merch over time, but he does likely downsize as he spends more time getting to know Ladybug and the team.

There’s also the obligatory Ladrien scene that I hinted at in Marinette’s post. To recap, Chat Noir, during an emotional moment with Marinette, mentions that he has Ladybug memorabilia in his room, and that he ought to downsize. Sometime later, Ladybug comes to check up on Adrien for plot-related reasons, and discovers that he “too” collects Ladybug merch. Adrien is notably embarrassed by this, but Ladybug replies by saying that she’s a fan of his as well. This will allow two sides of the ship to feel closer to each other and open up about certain things.

Similar to Marinette, Adrien will start picking up little things as mementos from previous episodes to decorate his room with (a class photo from “Reflekta,” a copy of the movie from “Horrificator,” his autographed Jagged Stone CD from “Guitar Villain,” etc). I also imagine him holding onto clothing items such as Nino’s hat or Kagami’s jacket, that get left behind after hanging out. Over time, he is eventually gifted a mannequin to display these items.

I remember seeing a post that called into question whether Adrien’s activities were something he genuinely enjoyed or if they were just foisted upon him by his father. I like the idea of a laid out arc that explores what Adrien might like to do in the future, by having him go through various hobbies (sort of like Daphne in “Be Cool, Scooby Doo”).

One hobby I’d give him from the start is tricking. (For those not familiar, tricking combines moves from martial arts and gymnastics, usually flips and kicks, and can be used to create super cool combos, yes I am biased about this). We often see him showing off stunts in battle and would fit Chat’s tendencies to be flashy. I could also see this becoming a hobby he shares with Nino and Kagami later on, maybe with the three of them sneaking out to meet other trickers at gatherings.

(For those who need visual reference.)

However, I also want to give Adrien a more traditionally feminine hobby. There’s a couple of ideas I had for this, including, again ones that he cycles through as he explores himself a bit more. After meeting Luka and noticing that he paints his nails, Adrien might tiptoe in nail art. I could also see Adrien getting really into writing romance, starting off as a fanfic writer and eventually writing his own novel or comic. Alternatively, he becomes a poet. Maybe he spends an episode learning to sew with Marinette so he can make his own cosplays. Or he starts a cottagecore aesthetic blog, and additionally starts taking care of some plants to give his room some needed greenery.

I think for the sake of irony, it would be interesting to see Adrien eventually take up baking as a hobby. I know there’s a couple of AUs involving this concept already (I forget who it was, though I’m tempted to say @lenoreofraven but correct me if I’m wrong), but I like this idea because it would give him something extra he and Marinette could bond over in the future, especially since he doesn’t want to do modelling long-term. It would also give him a good excuse to visit the Dupain-Cheng bakery, and grow closer to Sabine and Tom. Perhaps they take him up as an apprentice, or give him a delivery boy job alongside Luka (giving that relationship a chance to grow as well, as well as a Delivery Boy shenanigans episode).

When he’s either in between hobbies, in a tumultuous state, or growing distant from his father, his room will appear far messier. In the latter case, it may be an attempt to rebel against Gabriel, saying “it’s my room, I can do what I want!” If he’s not comfortable immediately speaking out against his father, he may rebel in more passive aggressive ways. I could also see him roleplaying scenarios in which he tells his father off or planning escape routes for hero patrol or tricking gatherings. I think he would also have padded mats stored somewhere in he case he can’t leave, and wants to practice, or have his own tricking gathering in the house.

As he collects more mementos, they start filling up the empty spaces in his room, so when his father prevents him from leaving the house, he doesn’t feel as lonely. He starts finding ways where, from the comfort of his room, he can hang out with friends (like in “Anansi” where he uses the facecam to see what everyone is up to). More friendly, casual photos give the room some life. These mementos may also cause him to start downsizing on the Ladybug and Friends merch.

He will only attempt to remove them altogether if his identity is revealed to Marinette, and she doesn’t seem to process it well (at least at first). Anything pertaining to her, as Ladybug or Marinette, he may attempt to remove, until he realizes just how present she is in his life. He would then consult his mother’s photo about what to do.

And similarly to Marinette at the end, when they start dating, he would start to incorporate couple’s photos. I think both of them would have those photo booth strips, but I could also see Adrien commissioning posters of his OTP, LadyNoir, and bringing back some of his merch (in a teasing, well-meaning way).

#ml salt #ml rewrite #ml plot bunny #i'm going to tentatively tag this as #adrien salt #bc i bring up an issue with adrien's character that i have #that i know as of late many people are debating over #however i also attempted to address this issue within this post #so i will also tentatively tag this as #adrien sugar

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butterfly--empress · 5 years

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Crazy MLB Thoughts...

Or shit I would sort of want to see but after watching Seasons 2 and 3 doubt highly will happen nor do I trust the writers to be substantially confident in making a cohesive story that doesn’t fall at the rails.

The fact that they seem to like making Miraculous Ladybug Episodic when it really should be a Serialize show, tells me all I need to know to NOT but much faith in what they do.

But I’ve been surprised before but...GREAT DOUBT (I’m trying really hard not to tl:dfr the essay about my...gripes with MLB on a whole because writing that...we’ll be here all day. ALL DAY)

anyways moving on;

1. Adrien and Felix are either step siblings or identical twins and someone lying about who’s the real baby daddy/baby momma and both sisters are in on it.

2. Both sisters are in on EVERYTHING...and prob share everything and Gabe is none the wiser. Don’t make that face at me fam, Ya’ll come up with very interesting poly ships...DON’T @ ME! XD

Look at their fucking Maiden Name; without some translation; Vanily? If that shit don’t sound too damn close to Villain IDKWTF does! XD

But seriously, the name has various meanings which all boil down to, deceit and moral ambiguity. I don’t put nothing passed nobody.

I seen what the animators were doing; trying to paint Amelie in Black while Emilie is dressed in White. See, that symbolism of trying to make me think Amelie is a bad twin to Emilie’s good twin because of how Gabe sees her. But I like to think the reality is more of the opposite if...IF Emilie’s really a big bad.

3a. Emilie is more antagonistic than Gabriel but actually loves her son and husband.

3b. Emilie could also just be full calculating evil and all of Adrien’s ‘memories’ of his loving mother could be of his Aunt Amelie instead...

4. The whole ass episode of Felix had me like: I watched one too many damn K-Dramas to know that anytime rich families act like this around each other; it usually involves birth secrets and the fact that someone was getting it on with the ‘wrong’ somebody...or the right somebody.

Look, all I’m saying is, Gabe is def the father and most likely the father of Felix but Adrien could...maybe...actually...be...Amelie’s kid for some unfounded reason and no one’s saying anything about it. (no way in the 7 HELLS do cousins look identical like that unless the creators just felt spiteful for some reason and rehashed a scraped character design...)

Don’t look at me like that Fam! I cannot be the only one who thought there were a lot of secrets not being shared/said in this episode! If ya’ll can theorized about Sentimonsters, I can theorized about Agreste/Graham de Vanily family drama.

5. Audrey and Tomoe might have a bitter rivalry/partnership/something with Emilie and Gabriel. I feel like something happened for Tomoe to be all; ‘I don’t need friends, they’re a disappointment’.

6. Fam! Ya’ll have got to chill with the ‘Character X is a Sentimonster theories’, come on that’s weak writing fam. FAM we’re better than this!

7. Marinette will finally get to tone down on her crush/obsession for Adrien WITHOUT having to be with *coughusecough* Luka.

8. Adrien as Chat Noir will finally get to tone down on his crush/obsession for Ladybug WITHOUT having to with *coughusecough* Kagami because she vaguely makes him think about Ladybug....Yea I said it.

I believe Adrien only tries to move on with Kagami because she’s the closest thing that reminds him of his Idealistic view of Ladybug and not really for Kagami herself. which isn’t fair to Kagami...jfc I said I was NOT going to tl:dfr this post....ahh too fucking late now!

Sure, Adrien admires her but I don’t think he really truly likes the girl in that way. Out of Order Episodes or not, that boy can’t go 5 mins without going nuts over his precious M’Lady. XD

9. I just rather there NOT be this extra baggage of a love triangle and I just would like for ONCE to get through a season without feeling 2nd hand embarrassment over the cringy shit Marinette does to get Adrien’s attention.

Before you try to go ham on me LadyNoir/Adrinette/Marichat/Ladrien (GODDAMN THIS FUCKING OTP) shippers hear me out: I am not saying I don’t want the love square..THE ORIGINAL LOVE SQUARE OF really two loves in like/lust/future love unknowingly with each other to end.

I WILL FUCKING GO DOWN TO THE DEPTHS OF HELL FOR THIS SHIP!

But I do want less cringe, there’s so much I can take of Marinette learns not to be petty and seems to grow up a bit for the NEXT damn episode to reset like that shit didn’t happen....boi..i’m about to rant about the writing...

10. EPISODES WILL NOT BE SHOWN OUT OF ORDER!!

11. EPISODES WILL NOT BE SHOWN OUT OF ORDER!!

12. Season 4 will be consistent with it’s plot driven story and continuity...we can only pray.

13. When old Gabby Moth gets redeemed (not if but when...hey i’m trying to be marginally realistic here) the story for it, isn’t weak asf and doesn’t feel forced. Even though its going to feel forced...unless Emilie really does turn out to be that bad bitch and shows she cares more for power over her family and dismisses Gabriel...only for him to wisen up that his wife really isn’t a saint and realize too late that Nathalie was always there for him...FUCK I just made myself sad..I’m sad....

14. Astruc is really being a troll and Chloe actually gets a redemption...maybe too much to ask for?

15. Meanwhile Lila FUCKING Rossi can eat ass I don’t like that hoe.

16a. Marinette will not try to carry the huge/sudden burden of being the guardian...(yea..THANKS FU FOR THAT BTW...*coughshitguardianmentormotherfuc...coughs*) ah Mari will not try to carry this heavy ass burden on her lonesome and actually lets those she chooses to give Miraculous too, KEEP THEM THIS TIME...ya know..so it’s more convenient for them to help her and Chat Noir when they need assistance. While she maybe the Guardian, she will allow Chat Noir to share her burden with her.

16b. Chat Noir will play more of an equal role alongside Ladybug and not be kept in the dark. ISTG RN; if Mari, after telling Fu she doesn’t want to keep anything from the guy that is supposed to be her number 1 partner...in the fucking dark...this whole ass website is going to feel my wrath for days on in.

no more of this ‘pushing Chat Noir to the sidelines and keeping him in the dark’ more than Hawkmoth trying to use their trust for each other against them, distrust and lies is the fastest way for him or some other big bad to win.

Also I just REALLY want the gang to keep their miraculous.

17. Probably going to get flack for this but I really want to see Chloe/Luka happen or at least some form of interaction between them.

I don’t mind the Lukagami Ship but it rly feels like a forced pair the spares to sideline them away from Adrienette and I rly can’t see it. I mean I can but I think Chloe/Luka would make for something more interesting.

18. Felix NOT becoming a big bad, because wow do we really need ALL of Adrien’s fam being coo-coo for coca puffs?? especially if Emilie is as worse than her husband

19 the other side characters get to actually develop.

20...Was there something else??? Probably but I’m tired and can’t think outside of really wanting a kind and just Emilie Fucking Agreste and also wanting the Bitch Mother of all mothers from hell Emilie FUCKING Agreste, while also wanting a lil of both.

And now unable to decide WHICH Emilie Fucking Agreste to write about in my two AUs because where at first i wanted sweet innocent Emilie fucking Agreste, now I want cunning, ambitious gets what she wants behind a sweet demeanor, you’ll never see her striking, Emilie Fucking Agreste!

While good!Emilie Agreste would be simple and easy to write for...my mind is going; palace politics is just so much better when everyone is backstabbing everyone! Just like historical dramas! only not everyone dies! XD

#miraculous ladybug #emilie agreste #marinette dupen chang #gabriel agreste #adrien agreste #some thoughts #with a side of rant

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alternativemiraculous · 5 years

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Kagadrinette headcanons.

We all know crack ships are a dangerous adventure because sometimes it's really difficult to find works about them. But OT3s?

So I'm gonna show some of my headcanons for Marinette x Adrien x Kagami. How is this ship named? Kagadrinette? Adrinettgami? Maridrigami? LuckySwords? Last one is quite cute, maybe. I'll go for that and Kagadrinette.

Kagami fell for Marinette after they started hanging out. Mari invited her to her squad. At first it was difficult since the only one who liked her besides Marinette was Rose. Alya thought she was mean, Mylène was scared of her, Juleka didn't want her to hurt Rose and Alix didn't really care. They were so wrong! Thanks to Mari's effort they started warming to her. But Kagami kept being close to Marinette.

One day Kagami notices she was jealous. Jelaous of Alya. Why was Marinette still thinking so high of her? She trusted Lila!

Kagami talked to Adrien, her closest friend and crush. He informed her of Lila's situation and all.

Adrien liked Kagami since Frozer, but was always so blinded by Ladybug. The day he discovered Mari was Ladybug he was ashamed. He didn't know Marinette would be his type! Yes, Adrien likes strong, harsh women.

After the reveal (not only them, of all the team), Marinette at first didn't want to talk to the cat, she never considerer not knowing her crush. She realized everything she knew about him was just his reprimed self.

Those days Kagami was there to help her. She was also surprised, but didn't really care because she knew Adrien in a more personal level, she always knew Adrien wasn't that perfect boy (I don't care about what she said in Oni Chan lmao). So she encouraged Marinette to keep searching for the real Adrien, even if Ladybug was Adrien's crush and Kagami knew it.

What nobody expected was that Marinette started liking Kagami. She never thought of herself as bi, so at first she thought it was just strong friendship and devotion. But thinking about Adrien and Kagami confused her sooo much.

One day after an Akuma attack, both Chat Noir and Ryuko noticed Ladybug was evadind them. Yes, she kept leading the team but wasn't strong as always. They chose to talk to her.

Aaaand that's when Ladybug confesed she liked both of them. Even if things were so akward with the cat, she still liked him. And Kagami... oof.

Ryuko coldly said a "me too". Chat Noir blushed sooo hard and nearly vanished. Both. Girls. He. Liked. Liked. Him.

Things started really akward. They didn't know what to do. Marinette was the one who talked about that thing... polyamory? She was so nervous. Adrien thought it was okay, he didn't have all that much contact to the world so he didn't see nothing wrong. But Kagami at first didn't like the idea. That was wrong. Love is between two people! What would her mother think? ... Screw that. It took some work, but finally she wanted to be with them.

It was difficult. At first they started hanging out as a group of friends, sometimes they took each others hands but nothing more. When they came out, ppl were really divided.

Mari's parents never thought of the possibility of a loving triad, but they supported her daughter no matter what.

Gabriel didn't like it. He didn't want Adrien with a girlfriend, so with two?? One day Adrien got really angry and made things clear to him: It was time for his freedom. Gabriel realized he could do nothing about that. At least he liked the girls his son got...

Tomoe never agreed. She was a traditional woman. She thought it was just a silly game, but soon she realized Kagami was serious about it. Tomoe didn't think her daughter was prepared to be in a relationship, and she didn't agree with it not being a couple. It was soooo hard but finally they made an agreement about it.

Surprisingly Kagami is really shy. Marinette is always the one to start physical contact, Adrien is usually flustered but likes ir and Kagami is just a blushing mess.

Marinette's ice cream represents both Adrien and Kagami, she didn't realise it till the day the three went there on a date. Peach represents Kagami's lips, mint represents Adrien's eyes. Same for Adrien; strawberry with chips represents Ladybug's suit and Kagami's civilian attire, blackberry represents Kagami's hair (I like to think it is darker than Mari's) and blueberry represents Mari's eyes. Kagami's ice cream would be something like black chocolate (Chat's suit and Mari's jacket), raspberry (Mari's color scheme) and lemon (Adri's hair).

When they have to patrol around alone, they usually start cuddling. Sometimes Rena catches them and laughs while taking pictures.

Ryuko is very protective about her lovers. She's usually circling above them while Air Dragoning.

Chat likes that his two girls both wear red. He can find them easely.

They work really good as a team. Ladybug isn't the lovey dovey type who would like them to stay away from battle; she feels safer with them around. Chat is always protecting her and Ryuko always takes the offensive for her while she makes the plan.

Ladybug is the brain, Ryuko is the brawns and Chat is the beauty. Everybody agrees.

Adrien and Kagami both try so hard to sneak Mari into the fencing team. Their dates usually end with them doing matches.

Kagami ended threatening Lila. Nobody's gonna do trouble for her Mari.

Their friends are ok with them, nobody really has problems. Sometimes Kim makes silly jokes about them, but they're innocent. They like to double date with Ninalya and sometimes other pairings like Julerose.

Mari and Adrien are more open about their feelings, Kagami is colder. So they usually tickle her to get her to relax. Kagami hates that and they end up silly fighting on the ground. They're so loud.

They like to have sleepovers every two weeks. Tom and Sabine are ok with it, Tomoe at first didn't let Kagami but after agreeing to conditions she lets her. Adrien doesn't want to tell the girls, but he actually shouldn't be there. He escapes.

They like to see movies together. Kagami always goes for horror movies. She doesn't hesitate, she's never scared. But she likes to see Marinette scared, holding her tigh and hugging both of them. Adrien doesn't have time to be scared because he's always laughing. This usually ends up in a silently silly fight on the ground.

When they sleep, Mari is always on the middle. She's a cuddly person, so she wants to be in the center. Adrien's in the right, next to a window usually. He likes to sleep seeing stars (or clouds at least). Kagami's on the left, she doesn't really like light while sleeping. As they are separated by Marinette, Kagami and Adrien try to hold hands to also be together.

When they awake, they are nearly dead because Marinette is a bear. She sleeps in a weird position with her arms and legs threatening Kagami and Adrien's breathing. They both think she's so cute.

Kagami is the first to awake. She's a light sleeper. If she sees light, she can't sleep. Adrien is the second, he always finds the dragon holder awake being bored. Marinette is soooo hard to awake. They start kissing her to not upset her.

Aaaand I think that's enough for this ship! I think it's a really cute ship. Since I am both Adrinette, Adrigami and Marigami shipper, I though this could work.

~alternativemiraculous.

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #miraculous headcanons #ot3 #ladybug ot3 #luckyswords #kagadrinette #kagami tsurugi #adrien agreste #marinette dupain #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug headcanons #ladybug #ryuko #ml ryuko #chat noir #cat noir

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