#and its funny because when ppl want to discuss naruto’s best friend (always ignoring how its canonically sasuke not matter how much they cr
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sasukeless · 9 months ago
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dropping it here as well but the hill i will always die on is the fact that aside sasuke, sai’s friendship w naruto is the best one compared to all others because you simply see them grew on each other in Real on screen time and their dynamic is always funny but also meaningful. sai, although he admires naruto, he doesn’t seem to hold naruto in a hero pedestal like others do and naruto gives sai the normalcy he never got. also when sai assumes naruto is hurting due sasuke and the promise for lack of info and bad reading (since he never has seen how naruto and sasuke’s friendship in part 1 like others) he tries to get him off that burden but after seeing naruto reject sakura, he decides to come clean instead and gives him all the information so naruto has the opportunity of choosing whatever he wants to do which is miles different from what everyone else was doing then
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avenger-hawk · 4 years ago
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YEAH when it comes to Team Taka, he obviously selected them for their abilities and wants them to help him with his goal to kill Itachi BUT he was also completely cool with it if they didn't want to n never guilt trip them (i freed u u have a moral obligation to help me). 16yr old me n still now think its so fucking cool. one of the kindest gestures in the series n i think what makes it kind also is that Sasuke never makes it a big royal deal about it. He is refreshing and comfortable like that. Someone that I can sit next to n not feel pressured to make conversation. But when I started to navigate the fanfiction realm with those huge ass word counts (i thought maybe the character study would be better n more detailed) and straight pairings with Sasuke he's so domineering and sexually charged and top! I went from (?) to (?????????????) very fast, dont get me wrong, they write better than me anyday n i know no one's lens of a character is exactly the same, but it was pretty jarring to me. So many people thought along those lines, I actually felt really insecure, not easy to be the minority in such a big fandom (along with my other not so popular feelings), feeling a bit lonely as I read discourse, I wasnt great with tumblr back then awkward in finding 'mutuals', also seeing how people attack others with different opinions. even my friends who like Naruto believed that popular opinion. I wasn't the best analyst, and still isn't, I would often think 'am I the one feeling it wrong?' It's been a ride with the series, it is precious to me, but I find it more comfortable n easy to enjoy it now (also I'm better with tumblr lol) as the heat is not as flaming n that I'm older n not be as insecure about my stance on the series so frequently and intensely.
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Yup Sasuke respects people and with Taka he showed that he appreciates their strength and values them, and he genuinely wanted to help them, and even though he needed them to find Itachi he was ok if they didn’t accept. He’s the most tolerant and less imposing character and yet ppl see him as an arrogant domineering top who’s also a pervert and incredibly jealous and possessive. it’s crazy how dumb fans can be if they see such oocness.
Tbh to me it’s also crazy how ppl can have problems not being able to speak out their opinion because the majority has another, especially when it’s so blatantly wrong. I’m glad you now feel less limited and I’m sorry for your insecurities from back then but as someone who is insecure on many things, and who never had friends irl to discuss the manga (my ex was a fan but he didn’t like ships and stuff so it was only canon discussion), and as someone who always had unpopular opinions, on one side I understand that it’s frustrating, but on the other side I find frustrating how you guys complain about this instead of not giving a f**k about ppl’s opinion and idk, do your thing? ignore those who are different? you don’t have to read discours actually, it’s not a duty. And you don’t have to interact with ppl necessarily, if you disagree with them.
Also, if you find those opinions so wrong, because they are, can’t you use your blog to show how wrong they are? Not shitting on them necessarily, not engaging in discussions with them, but taking canon moments and writing about them.
I find so many things ooc, not just the shitty characterizations but all this shisuixsakura in the shisui tag, all the fluff everywhere for a series that is canonically darker than you admit, and all those black Sasuke &co (I mean, they’re not. clearly. don’t get me wrong, I hate when artists draw characters as super ‘caucasian’ as they call them lol, sometimes I see pink skinned everyone and those northern chins and noses and I cringe lol...and I actually don’t like characters drawn in a ‘realistic’ way when some race prevails over another, cause I like them to be unclear, since you know they’re drawings...so I don’t have a problem with it btw because I know it’s self indulgent, I just have to mention it because it IS ooc) BUT one thing about all these things that I approve is how they like the thing and do it. Even if it’s not IC, or it doesn’t make sense. So I kinda like those black characters because they’re bold lol
edit: I remembered having discussed with a veeeery popular author for the Sas*ita fandom, her characterization influenced all SI stans basically. And she admitted that she was writing her own perception, based not on the whole story but on like the parts of the story she liked more. Basically she didn’t consider canon Edo Tensei Itachi, because it went against her ideas, and the brothers’ dynamics were not her thing either because Sasuke obeyed to him too easily. But that’s canon right? So, the author most liked by SI shippers admitted that she was writing her own fave dynamic, refusing canon parts she doesn’t like, and she didn’t give a damn about it. I’m not even criticizing her! I’m saying she does what she wants, she’s an author writing for her own pleasure first. But it’s funny that 1) SI stans took her ideas as better than canon and bashed IS for seeing things in a different way 2) she does what she wants even tho it’s clearly OOC and she’s seen as a great analyst while others who do the same are seen as wrong
And at the same time those who like things/dynamics/characterizations that are not ‘popular’ are afraid to express it, why? I said it over and over and I’m not gonna say it anymore cause I’m frustrated. those who don’t express what they think online because they are afraid are playing by the majority rules and they are harming the rest of the fandom, contributing to the silencing of unpopular opinions. You are just as guilty as those who attack others if you are too coward to speak out.
And since I had enough of all this and I’m pissed off by the lack of courage of so many ppl, it’s useless to seek my comprehension cause I’m not gonna give you any. I’m sick of tired of discourse over the same bullshit over and over, I’m sick and tired of ppl complaining about discourse but not doing anything cool instead, only complaining. As if the only thing ppl can do is watch others instead of being themselves not caring about them. You aren’t better than those you criticize, if the only thing you do is criticize them, not even in your blog, not even in their dumbass faces, but using someone else’s space, like my blog, in anon form, to complain.
Y’all like Sasuke, the one who told his former teammates that he’d gonna be Hokage and change the system. During a war. Even tho he was considered a criminal by all of them. And you are afraid of some dumbass online calling you wrong? Suit yourself, but not in my blog.
Hawk out.
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