#and it's not even that I preferred zimon

[georgianadarcies]

wait what’s the karma around zoey’s playlist?

it’s more of a personal grievance more than anything else (like there's nothing problematic that I know of happening with the cast or writers) but I just hated the last season. season one was EXCELLENT and one of my favorite seasons of any show – even though I didn't love the romance plots, I could see past it because the other things they were writing about were better written and more important. they had a clear story they wanted to tell in the first season, but they just didn't in the second season. it ended up refocusing on relationship drama – poorly written relationship drama. they treated clarkeman like it was six feet under for most of the season, which was fine by me, and they wrote zoey to be in a really healthy and solid relationship with simon. but in, like, the last 2-3 episodes, they did a complete 180. suddenly, she's having issues with simon, and oh, she's actually in love with max! her realization was ooc, and the finale was so fucking rushed my god. like max is super in love with his gf, but actually his gf broke up with him right before they moved to new york because she could tell he was still in love with zoey! the zimon breakup was lazy and a snooze, and now suddenly max can hear zoey's heart songs??? like what??? it was just so shitty and it had become unrecognizable as a show. so it's karma that it got cancelled lol like that's what happens when you run your own show into the ground!

[gilmores-glorious-blog]

huge shoutout to zep fic writers for being so good that i’ve read so many fics for pairings that i don’t even like just bc of the talent y’all have

[rachel-bloom]

unpopular opinion?? but I don’t think the majority of the fandom understands simon’s character? I don’t really see it on tumblr (bc he’s hardly talked about) but I saw some fan interaction outside of this site and Yikes. - zoeyxclarke

this got really long and is anti zoey/max so don’t read if you like them i don’t wanna fight lmao

yeah.. i went into this show fully expecting to ship zoey/max (and i did for a little while there until 1x07 happened lol) because i love skylar and crazy ex girlfriend introduced me to him, but........ i don’t know. max had no depth for me until 1x06 and it wasn’t that much tbh, we literally know nothing about him, i didn’t think they had much romantic chemistry (until they were in song itily/sucker/500 miles was great, iichy? not so much except for skylar’s vocals obviously) i think most of their shippers are just basing their shipping preference on his looks like he’s a pretty guy. he doesn’t have much of a character for me (1x06 was great but) everything after was a big yikes and it honestly shocks me how people can still ship them after this, he made her feel guilty for not returning his feelings and demanded an answer right away. i honestly don’t know how he can call himself her best friend when he never once talked/hinted at his feelings organized a whole fucking flashmob knowing how socially awkward zoey can be and at what a terrible position it would place her at. like he literally didn’t think once about her feelings when organizing this, i think he expected her to fall into his arms and kiss him which is.... yikes. people love to disguise themselves saying ‘omg i love best friends to lovers trope though like!!! thats why i cant ship zimon!! bf to lovers 5eva’ when it’s like we literally have no build up like ok i get it they cant spend one season with 12 episodes on them building up to become best friends but even then it doesn’t seem like that much of a great relationship to me. like sure he did the one or other nice gesture but he had no problem dating another girl while being ‘in love with zoey’ and then the whole flashmob debacle & making her feel guilty for not dropping her panties like chill out dude

simon on the other hand........ yeah he’s engaged and that’s a big red flag and i get that. and i wouldn’t want them to hook up or even kiss while he’s engaged but people keep talking about a ‘cheating’ storyline when there’s literally none. he had the “thought” of staying at her appartment did he act on it? no. we know now that he has feelings for her but he did the responsible thing and stepped away from her, respects her boundaries and is giving her space something which max....... doesn’t do? simon definitely needs therapy and needs to stop using zoey as his therapist more or less lol, i read an article that for them it’s about figuring out if there are real feelings between them or if the dad thing is the only thing that’s connecting them and we’ll see what happens with that. honestly. but like losing your father to suicide is HUGE trauma, and it’s literally like...... fandom hates complex male characters that aren’t white lol. like max is the quirky white best friend who’s pretty and it’s easy to ship him with zoey (for the general audience) but simon has baggage and inner conflicts and people don’t like that. 

i just keep thinking about something my english tutor said once like it was about if you grow up as a white person you’re obviously more inclined to identify with white characters, ship white ships (that obviously doesn’t always have to be the case) but like i think it’s a fact that a lot of people don’t like to admit and honestly i’m a part of that too but right atm i’m just going after chemistry, if i think that couple has chemistry i’ll ship it (if it’s not too gross or borderline abusive) and if not i’m usually indifferent about it (unless it’s creepy/gross).