#and if you add A LOT of headcanon salt - also as nerves

[rofla09]

When the traveler brought a new curious test subject for a checkup

[imthepunchlord]

Can you elaborate on the Guardian Nino + Turtle and Alya getting the fox?

I understand why you don't like the rest, I don't like em myself but why are those bad in your opinion?

Just curious.

I will acknowledge that these are nitpicks and they are mixture of my own frustrations. Frustration that the miraculous that are assigned to Alya and Nino do not fit them as characters, and with Fu now confirmed to have 15 more miraculous with him, people will still default to those and won’t even consider changing things up. 

We will start with Alya as Nino would be a more lengthy answer. And putting this under cut as Alya got a whole lot more lenghtier than I originally thought. 

Now, I can get the appeal of Alya with Fox. Visually, its one of the more clever color coding designs for a miraculous, you have her big on learning secrets and sharing them with the world, Fox could teach her the importance of secrecy, though would still match that curious nature. And Darkblade shows us that Alya cna be sneaky and use underhanded tactics. Mr Pigeon also adds to this as she was ready to do something about Chloe stealing Marinette’s design. And while not aggressive, Alya is still a very direct and driven character and Fox could help teach her some subtlety, and to put some distance between herself and things, though the Fox itself is a risk taking animal. It can be a challenge of smart vs confidence. 

So there is actual appeal to Alya having Fox, particularly in symbolism and growth. But...

We got to see that the Fox’s power is Mirage, and that Mirage was one illusion and not the multiple that Volpina had initially set up. It not only downgrades the Fox miraculous, but this sets up difficulty for Alya. Especially with Kwamibuster revealing that how elaborate and complex an illusion comes out can depend on the user, and ultimately confirms that Marinette would be a far better Fox than Alya. Power wise, this really doesn’t set up Alya as a good Fox at all... 

Having one illusion to use, you want to make sure its used well. So the Fox would be better matched with an elaborate complex thinker who can make complex illusions that will misdirect their audience. You also want a character who can be more background oriented, if you’re going to be an illusionist, you don’t want attention on yourself as you play your audience. A skilled illusionist like this could even trick an akuma into “accomplishing” their goal and give up the butterfly as they are satisfied. 

Alya though does not meet those qualifications, not to say she couldn’t learn and grow, but if you need an immediate good Fox to help you, there are better picks out there. Marinette, Felix, Luka, and Nino all would be solid Foxes as they are elaborate thinkers, and can settle to be more background oriented. 

Alya though isn’t an elaborate thinker, she’s a very direct instead, so much of her illusions wind up coming out direct and basic. They still serve their purpose and do a good enough job, but there could better matches. Only time I found myself impressed with her illusion was Miracle Queen where she was under influence... that’s not good. And while Alya herself is an imaginative character, she can rival Adrien in recklessness and can latch onto the first idea she likes whether its a good idea or not. You don’t want an illusionist who’s going to latch onto the first idea that comes to mind and consider their options more. 

Now, if Fox had Volpina’s multiple illusions, this can give Alya more leeway to make mistakes and change tactics and allow a learning curve; it’d also work if Fox had other powers that could match her more, like a power of evasion, foxfire, hypnosis, transformation, ect. But its one illusion and how complex it is depends on the user and its not a good match for Alya.

And then there’s the matter with Trixx, and by extension, the issue with Lila: Alya is shown by s3 to be an easily manipulated character. If you are easily manipulated, that doesn’t set you up as a promising Fox. 

We see that Trixx is friendly and diligent, but also very manipulative and easily manipulates Alya. This makes their dynamic less interesting to me, I’d rather Trixx be paired with someone who can match them more mentally. 

And then Lila. Now, I myself wasn’t intrigued by the Alya vs Lila that the fandom was interested in as Volpina didn’t do anything to set them up, and you got the Truth vs Lies theme but Alya is supposed to get the Fox which is an infamous liar? It doesn’t quite match up as a rivalry, and canon proceeded to shoot that down even more as Lila easily manipulatives Alya in the accursed episode that sparked off many of salt fics and is actually still going. How can I embrace Alya as a Fox when she’s easily manipulated and accepts things at face value? I’ll also acknowledge that this is a similar issue with Nino who is easily accepting of Lila’s lies. I still think he’d be a better Fox than Alya, but Fox isn’t my top pick for him either. 

And then there’s the issue with Rena Rouge. 

You got her skin getting lighter and she’s now “sexier” as Rena. This does not add to the appeal of Fox Alya at all and makes me want it even less. 

Over all, there are better miraculouses for her to play off her being a more direct character. And by default, all miraculous would teach the importance of secrecy. 

Cat would really work as its a direct and aggressive miraculous but also requires some thought to it. Plagg can also be a fun and good counterpart to Alya, as he isn’t as invested in hero duties as her and could help her learn to calm down a little. 

She’d be a good Bee, would be smart with Venom and can teach her to be smarter around akumas. Can’t say how good of a match her and canon Pollen would be, she may help Pollen grow or Pollen will end up as an enabler. Pollen just might need a big overhaul as a character though, that might be best. 

She’d be a really good Turtle, its really keeps that support role of watching out for her friends and allows her to be in the front lines where she’d like to be, and can teach her some form of caution or not to be so reckless around akumas. I think of the 5, she and Wayzz could be the most interesting duo as Wayzz is quick to question his humans and can prompt Alya to start rethinking her strategies instead of going with the first idea she likes. But this isn’t a duo that would butt heads a lot as Wayzz is shown to be adaptable and will learn his users personality quickly so he can match Alya in her playful nature. 

And technically should wait to see powers, but, going off symbolism and headcanons, there’s a few of the Zodiac who Alya could use. 

Tiger has a lot of the similar appeals to Fox but with added aggression that could work with Alya better. It’s an animal more associated with the shadows and stealth, but it is a top predator. So if you want Alya to learn more subtlety and stealth but keep that directness, Tiger would be good. It would also keep that clever color coding, and perhaps match it more as Alya has “stripes” in her design. And the kwami we see is shown very curious and bold, similar characteristics that Alya has. 

She’d work as a Dragon, its also very direct and can be aggressive, but not exactly in your face like Cat and Bee. And power wise it has options so can allow a learning curve and can allow her to be direct or more subtle. It would also match that want to help and be a hero, as in the old Zodiac lore, the Dragon didn’t make first place because she kept stopping to help people. Shown to be poised, Longg could help with self-control, though she’s shown to be a rambler so that might get on Alya’s nerves, but could prompt the kwami to be more straight to the point. 

Goat can work as its a very ambitious but gentle animal. It’s also very clever, they are infamous escape artists. If you want another animal that matches in being direct, helpful, and cunning; Goat’s a good pick. The kwami is shown gentle and nice, by default they’d be a friendly pair. 

Dog, which should be a mixture of the appeals of Goat and Turtle, direct and helpful, but also be ready to be a protector and have people’s back. And the kwami is shown to be very on task which will work with Alya nicely. 

And lastly, Pig. While known to be aggressive (especially as a boar), in terms of Chinese Zodiac lore, this animal is actually known to be easy going, a symbol of prosperity and wealth, and in terms of Zodiac personality, is incredibly helpful. Similarly to Turtle, could teach Alya to slow down, and it has promise to be another direct support miraculous. 

Now, Nino with Turtle and by extension, him being Guardian. 

Now Nino with Turtle was never a match that I was ever really interested in, and there was less appeal there than Alya getting Fox. Nino’s not color coded for it, and the things Turtle can teach are things Nino didn’t need to learn or already had. 

One of the earliest suggestions made for Turtle Nino was to teach maturity, as Bubbler suggest Nino likes to party. Only Nino himself, at least the very little shown, is an over all mature and responsible character. 

He went up to Gabriel to request hosting a party for Adrien. 

Pixelator shows him taking over Adrien’s assigned job and doing his homework at the same time. 

Santa Claws he’s one of many to go look for Adrien. 

Captain Hardrock, was helping prepare the boat for the band. 

Not to say he’s mature all the time (no teenager is), but he doesn’t need lessons in maturity from Turtle. Turtle can also teach bravery and standing your ground which Nino doesn’t need either. He’s not the bravest of characters as he’s less inclined to face akumas, but that itself is not a bad thing, its smart to not engage with akumas. And Nino himself doesn’t have issues standing his ground as he was unafraid of Chloe in Lady Wifi nor was he nervous about changing the script in Horrificator. 

Turtle could also teach caution, self-care, and being more conscious of others and helping them. Which Nino also really has down. Much like before, he does watch out for himself with akumas and largely aware of the danger they pose; and he is an already helpful and supportive character, readily having Adrien and Alya’s back. 

Another factor is that Turtle is a direct support miraculous. It needs a user who is ready to be on the front lines and Nino is not that sort of character. He’d be better fit for background support as that’s where he would prefer to be and his strengths can lie better there, especially with his want to be a director who is a more background leader than having the core attention. 

And looking back at Anansi, there’s nothing there to solidify Turtle Nino, cause ultimately, Carapace was pointless. You can entirely cut out Carapace and very little would change. He doesn’t help fight Anansi but was there to root LB in the boxing match. Yeah, Shelter cut the web but, why couldn’t Chat just turn his hand and Cataclysm the web? This was supposed to be an ep to give Nino a “manly boost” but as a miraculous hero he did ultimately nothing and didn’t even need to be there. 

Canon really failed in making me want Turtle Nino at all. Only saving grace is that its for temporary use and not permanent. 

And as for Guardian Nino, this was playing off the headcanon that Turtle = Guardian, simply because Fu as a Guardian had Turtle which was a headcanon I never latched onto and seemed weird to me that this one miraculous was always assigned to a Guardian. But playing off this headcanon and Turtle Nino being popular, Nino got guardianship. 

Which to me was a weird thing to latch onto as, canon wise, there was nothing between Nino and Fu as characters, and Nino himself is incredibly removed from akumas and miraculous. If a best friend HAD to be a Guardian and not Marinette or Adrien, Alya actually would’ve made sense. Her whole thing is learning identities, but also learning the importance of secrecy. And you could play off her being involved but not in the forefront of things, not having full focus and attention, and you do see Fu in the background when Alya is in focus. 

But over all, I was more for Guardian Marinette as she was the most involved in the miraculous work and duties, did her job well, and was involved with other people and knew their strengths and weaknesses, could see potential and know they’re reliable. I am glad canon went for Guardian Marinette, though I wish canon had her passing the earrings onto someone else as she doesn’t need two vital roles to shoulder nor does the Ladybug miraculous teach her anything new anymore and Tikki is not a good kwami for her either. 

But Nino as Guardian just because its a popular idea of him getting Turtle, just doesn’t click with me and feels random, both in miraculous assignment and in role. 

And much like Alya, there are better fitting miraculous for Nino. 

Canon wise, plus being color coded for it, Peafowl would be good. It’s meant to be background support and not in the heat of things, so that matches Nino’s comfort level. This is a miraculous that can also help Nino learn needed observation skills, as that’s one of his biggest issues as a character. Any feelings of distraught can go over Nino’s head, not just in the case of Horrificator, but Nino is also oblivious to Adrien’s discomfort around Chloe and Lila, and has offered to wingman for both once (though Chloe he was an akuma). So a miraculous tied to emotions can help Nino become more conscious of others’ feelings. And giving him beings to command and oversee, this can give him practice in directing as he’ll need to learn to direct his creations. Duusu and Nino would probably get along well, and maybe spice up his life a little as she’s affectionate and expressive. 

By extension and for similar reasons, Butterfly also works very well. This is more designed than canon Peafowl to be on the front lines, but it isn’t required. And can still help Nino learn to be more consciously aware of others and still give him practice in directing as he’s then working with actual people then beings of his own creation. Nooroo and Nino would also be a very sweet pair, though a lot calmer and a tad boring. 

Nino would be a good Fox. Party Crasher shows he’s an elaborate thinker, and again, this can work in his want to be a director as he can learn how to put on a show and sway his audience. Fox can also help Nino catch the smaller details that he can wind up overlooking. And its a miraculous not set to be on the front lines and still works in his favor. Only issue is a similar one to Trixx and Alya, I do see Trixx easily manipulating Nino which doesn’t make them an exactly appealing pair. 

Zodiac wise, playing off headcanons and symbolism. 

Nino would be a good Mouse, as an elaborate thinker, this miraculous is up his alley as it’s about literal mirco management. And can still teach him observation skills as he has to be aware of everything while small. The little bit we’re getting of the kwami is that she appears quite the mischief maker, so she can spice up Nino’s life and we could get a funny dynamic to see. 

Ignoring canon’s take and working more off the Moon Rabbit, Nino would be a solid Rabbit, especially as a healer and support, and still teach him to be more aware of his surroundings and be more active in helping people. 

He could be a good Dragon, as it doesn’t appear to need to be too directly involved, and like (Moon) Rabbit, could teach him to be more actively involved in helping others. I can also see him being more patient with Longg than Alya. 

He’d be a solid Snake as an elaborate thinker, and this can give him the time he needs to think and decide on a plan. And still backs him catching details and encourage him in observing people and his surroundings. I see him and Sass getting along. 

Honorable mentions that can apply but I either don’t see them teaching Nino much or could end up being too direct than he prefer: Ox, Tiger, Horse, Goat, Dog, Pig. 

Soooo those are my nitpicky issues with Nino and Alya and their respective miraculous, plus the idea of Guardian Nino. But these are my nitpicks and issues, if anyone likes these miraculous assignments and the idea of Guardian Nino, cool. Its just one of many popular fanon ideas and tropes that just isn’t for me and I’d rather something else, especially in terms of miraculous assignment. 

[oraculideluna]

VERY LONG CHARACTER SURVEY

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    ϟ     BASICS

FULL NAME: Lunafreya Nox Fleuret NICKNAME/S: Not many so far. Vi sometimes calls her Sailor Moon, some people have called her Lu, but not much that’s been very consistent. (After all, isn’t Luna kind of her nickname anyway?) AGE: Default she’s 24, but for me that’s verse dependent, and also when in the timeline a scene takes place.  BIRTHDAY: September 24th ETHNIC GROUP: Tenebraean NATIONALITY:  Caucasian?  LANGUAGE/S: (This one is largely headcanon based rather than founded in canon.) Though the local language in Tenebrae has been slowly integrating the common language into it until pure Tenebraean is rarely spoken anymore except at major celebrations and ceremonies, and in religious sites, Luna can speak it fluently, and in fact, it is her first language. She learned the common tongue spoken across Eos second, and her common is spoken with a Tenebraean accent. Growing up, she was also learning the local dialects in Lucis, particularly what’s spoken in Insomnia and by the royal family, but after the invasion of Niflheim, studies of that were put to a stop. She has a passable knowledge of what’s spoken in the Niflheim capital, though speaking it is heavily accented, and she reads it better than she speaks it.

SEXUAL ORIENTATION: Probably demisexual with a leaning towards men. ROMANTIC ORIENTATION: Demiromantic. RELATIONSHIP STATUS: By default, engaged to Noctis, but this is all verse and timeline dependent.  CLASS: Royal, and holy. CURRENT HOME: Tenebrae, but as usual, verse dependent. (Bevelle, Dollet, Citadel, etc.) PROFESSION: Ex-princess and Oracle. (Verse dependent: queen/oracle, high priestess, duchess, etc)

    ϟ     PHYSICAL

HAIR: Light blonde, long with a bit of a wave and some soft curl at the end, hanging between the ends of her shoulder blades down to her hips, depending. EYES: Light blue, perceptive, and the most expressive part of her face when she’s trying not to show emotion. NOSE: Slim, with a soft curve at the tip. The bridge of her nose bumps up ever so slightly in the way that many Tenebraean noses do. FACE: Oval face with a slight and gentle elongation of the chin; almost heart-shaped, but not quite enough to call it that. LIPS: A bit wide-set lips with a soft curve around the corners and a pronounced cupid’s bow. COMPLEXION: A fair complexion that easily shows any color (blushing, bruising, etc) BLEMISHES: Nothing notable, though she does have a small beauty mark on the curve of the right side of her jaw, and one on her right collarbone at the base of her neck. She also has a few scars, though these are more prominent in the timeline after Altissia: a scar across the side of her right upper arm (grazed with a bullet during the fall of Insomnia) that remains slightly raised with a small knot of scar tissue; a white line of a scar across her left cheek (during the fight in Altissia) that’s barely noticeable except in some lights and with careful inspection; a large scar that traces about a 6” line across her abdomen (being stabbed by Ardyn in Altissia), knotted in a couple of places, pulling the skin tight. TATTOOS: None, but in some verses, she wouldn’t be against it. HEIGHT: 5’6” without heels. WEIGHT: Timeline dependent. Probably close to 125lbs until she escapes Altissia. After that, with all the fighting and weapons training she puts in, she ends up closer to 155lbs. BUILD: Slender, but adds more tone definition and a bit more weight as she trains. She probably ends up closer to an athletic build. ALLERGIES: None. USUAL HAIRSTYLE: Usually it’s held up with decorative braids and gemstones, with her bangs styled to be parted over one eye. When possible, she wears it down, and much prefers it down. USUAL EXPRESSION: Very neutral and straight-faced, lips and jaw set, eyes taking in everything around her. USUAL CLOTHING: Dresses. Embroidery, beads, lace, flowing skirts, decoration and accessories, headpieces. It’s fairly rare she gets to dress down, save for days when she has no appointments or public appearances. On those times, she wears far simpler clothing, a lot more relaxed and casual, while still maintaining what propriety is expected of her.

    ϟ     PSYCHOLOGY

FEAR/S: To quote the woman herself: “I do not fear death. What I fear is doing nothing and losing everything.” She’s long since accepted that she will die before she wants to, so the fear of death doesn’t come until well after the war ends. Once she’s survived and realizes she now has the rest of her lifetime to live, she finds that death becomes something she’s less…comfortable? with. She may not fear it, but she also is far more careful with her life now.

Outside of that, she’s afraid of a loss of control. Twenty-four years spent under the control and rule of someone with an agenda, and she now finds that, in most aspects of her life, a loss of control can cause the beginnings of panic. (There’s a slightly nsfw addendum to this, but that can be saved for later. Or asked about, if anyone even reads this far lol.) ASPIRATION/S: To be a ruler that her people, and the world, can be proud of. But also, to maintain their status as a peaceful nation while still finding ways to impress upon Eos that they are not to be messed with ever again. POSITIVE TRAITS: Generous, kind, thoughtful, isn’t too stiff in demeanor, empathetic NEGATIVE TRAITS: Stubborn, distrusting (to a degree), MBTI: ENFJ. ZODIAC: Libra, Virgo/Libra cusp. TEMPERAMENT: Sanguine. SOUL TYPE/S: Caregiver and Spiritualist. VICE/S: Complicated, because Luna spent much of her life being told and considering some basic human needs and wants are vices. She wants to be loved, she wants friends, she wants a minute to relax. She wants conversations deep into the night about everything and nothing. She wants to be kissed, to hold hands, to see the beach.

But as for actual vices, she carries in her a lot of anger and just enough vengefulness disguised as righteousness. 

GHOSTS? No. AFTERLIFE? Yes. REINCARNATION? No, though couldn’t one just wish. ALIENS? No? I guess, if she really thought about it, she’d think about life on other worlds, but all things considered, she’s never thought about it. POLITICAL ALIGNMENT: Oh, that’s a lot to ask in one question. EDUCATION LEVEL: A level of schooling equivalent to a bachelor’s degree, all crammed into tutoring and homeschooling until she was twenty-two.

    ϟ     FAVORITES

BOOK: She’ll tell people it’s religious books like the Cosmogeny, buuuuut give this girl some escapism. She loves stories of adventure, has a fondness for rogue-like characters, and will read the occasional romance novel. MOVIE: She hasn’t been able to see many, what with all that censorship, but she would love a good thriller, suspense, action movie, something in that genre. MONTH: Summertime. Don’t care what month, but the warmth and the summer rains and light dresses and blooming flowers – all of it. SEASON: Summer. PLACE: The beach. Doesn’t matter if it’s an ocean or a lake or a river, she just wants to be barefoot in the sand with water. WEATHER: Warm days and warm nights. She does enjoy a good rainstorm, though. SOUND/S: The sort of not-so-quiet quiet that comes with a peaceful afternoon or evening. The rustle of a gentle breeze through the trees, birds or crickets chittering about outside, the sound of her own quiet breathing. She also really enjoys music a lot, and will usually have something playing softly nearby when she’s working or reading.  SCENT/S: Flowers, especially exotic ones; vanilla, cinnamon, the smell of wood burning in a fireplace. Deep heady scents that are warm and comfortable. TASTE/S: Fruits! She enjoys sweet ones, but finds particular interest in tart berries. Cinnamon is a favorite, and she once tried a heavily cinnamon flavored drink while traveling that she loved, but hasn’t been able to have since. FEEL/S: A warm breeze, soft cotton against her thighs, hot baths, ocean/lake water that isn’t too cold.

    ϟ     EXTRA

GOOD AT: Puzzles, public speaking, dancing, she’s a fast learner, good with her words BAD AT: Self care, driving, understanding innuendo TURN-ONS: Confidence, being trustworthy, a sense of humor, not treating her like she’s made of glass, a charming smile…legs TURN-OFFS: Blatant power plays, a need for dominance, condescension, HOBBIES: Reading, gardening (though she doesn’t get to do it very often), writing TROPES: Cast from lifespan, Nerves of Steel, Stuffed Into the Fridge (the salt is real over this), Super Strength, You See I’m Dying