#and idk i just wonder if it's deliberate or people legit don't know that you can save them
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bragganhyl · 7 months ago
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once again I'm asking you to indulge my curiosity
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genericpuff · 2 years ago
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Did you hear about the "do not trace or use my work" update RS has on... I think her Twitter? @hestia-is-ace-pass-it-on knows more about this. I'm just wondering if this is going to affect Lore Rekindled at all since your series is an AU thing?? (I hope not cause I really like Lore Rekindled).
lmao yeah I heard about that, frankly I'm not worried, it's not going to affect Rekindled in the slightest as far as I'm concerned because even the panels that are sourced from S1 LO (like the Persephone looking up at Hades one, the Cerberus one, etc.) are still redrawn by my own hand from the bottom up, I don't directly trace them and I'm not copy + pasting them from LO and just calling it a day. Not to mention (and IDK if Rachel realizes this or not) those kinds of "please don't trace/use my art" warnings are more for people who trace/rip art and pass it off as their own, i.e. deliberate theft. Lore Rekindled is advertised as a fanfic/foe fic/AU project with proper credit given to Smythe and disclaimers that Lore Rekindled is not affiliated with Smythe beyond the original idea and art style that it's aiming to mimic - she can't copyright an art style, the Greek myth inspirations, or the brushes that are used, and there's nothing she can do about people making AU comics.
If she theoretically wanted to put her foot down on Rekindled, she'd have to go after the entirety of the fanfic/fanart community 😂 She has next to no ground to go after any derivative or fan projects inspired by her work, not unless they directly try to impersonate her and/or make a profit with the Lore Olympus name/branding/etc. (hence why there isn't a Patreon for Rekindled). Even the direct edit accounts themselves don't try to pass themselves off as LO or Smythe, they always show the original panel and make it clear in their bio descriptions that the accounts themselves are for LO which is easily sourced as not belonging to them.
One could argue that it's generally bad taste on the grounds of it being rude to edit other people's work, and yeah, that's valid. It casts the presumption that there's something "wrong" with how an artist wants to express themselves and that the edit makes it "better". But, for starters, we all know why these edits exist because LO has gone down in quality and people are having their own fun time trying to restore that original vibe in tribute to Rachel's original version of LO; second, it would be a lot more heinous IMO if LO were still some small series being made by a nobody, but ... it isn't, it's a massive commercial product within its industry and fanwork/foework is par for the course with commercial products; and third, there still isn't any sort of legal ground for Rachel to stand on because those accounts still aren't pretending to be her or her work, if anything they may as well be advertising it.
Plus, a lot of those edit accounts are more like redraw accounts, so many of them may as well be DTIYS prompts rather than direct edits (that's not a bad thing, just a statement of fact) save for a few accounts that deliberately try to mimic the old LO style as much as possible when editing new panels. Those kinds of stylized redraws are legit just fanart.
For many of these accounts, a lot of it's still work they're doing themselves and they're not trying to pass off their edits as legitimate LO products. No one's ripping these panels and re-posting them and going "look what I drew today!" (ex. Love's Divinity did this and a lot of people rightfully called the creator out on it, thankfully it seems like they've learned and moved on from copying directly from LO and other webtoons) they're going "hey, so this is what the webcomic looks like now, and here's what it looks like in my style" or "hey, this is what the webcomic looks like now, but here's what it would possibly look like if it still looked like S1 LO". None of it's meant to be maliciously stealing or impersonation, the pettiest it can get is just people saying "Rachel, your art sucks" which may as well be the only reason she edited that into her bio in the first place.
Like, if this IS aimed at the edit and redraw accounts, she's basically only upset about the panel edits that call out her obviously declining art IMO. Especially considering she's retweeted edit stuff before, many of them being from the anti/ULO community which I don't think she ever even realized ? 😂 But regardless, she shares edit panels a lot so it makes that bio notice come across less as "don't trace or use my work" and more as "don't do edits that make me look bad!!" when she's already doing plenty of work on her own end to make herself look bad 😂
In my personal opinion beyond the legalese... yeah, her work really does suck nowadays. I get how awful working for Webtoons is, I get that Rachel might not even be into drawing LO anymore, I can empathize with her maybe not being able to put in the same amount of emotional investment or time that she was able to put into it back in S1, but every single edit account is pretty sincere in doing it simply because they want to express how they wish it could look if it hadn't dropped in quality.
Phew, that was a lot of words for a very simple question, but rest assured, I'm not really worried it's going to affect Rekindled. 90% of the panels are completely original compositions save for the few panels that are referencing older moments in S1 LO that I brought back for Rekindled's plot, and even those panels are still redrawn from the ground up and given different outcomes (ex. Persephone punching Hades in the face lmao). Probably won't be doing much of that from here on out but more so just because the plot's going to be shifting even further from original S1 LO; but it's def better safe than sorry on my part to just make that 90% into a 100%, I suppose.
As a last point, I don't blame the edit accounts who ARE stepping away from editing panels out of respect. While it might not be a technically legal issue, I can still respect those who still want to respect Rachel's requests and do better as creatives and individuals. Just because something isn't against the law doesn't mean it isn't a cruddy thing to do, and I say that fully as someone who cut their teeth on edit content. We have tons of other ways of expressing ourselves creatively in this fandom than directly editing old panels.
The DTIYS stuff though, I don't think that should be off limits. It's fanart and that's completely fair game IMO especially for someone like Rachel who's creating a commercial piece of work. It comes with the territory. Welcome to being a pro.
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wooahaes · 2 years ago
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Glad to hear you are feeling better! My tutor said that not many people used pop up for their project so part of me took that as a challenge haha (also pop is so cool, there are so many intricate pieces out there!). My dissertation was "the power of music", but I'd deliberately made it vague because I didn't know what to focus on lol. I'm sort of looking at "does music make you smarter". The Mozart effect gets referenced at lot, but it only affects spacial reasoning not intelligence -🍧
There does seem to be a link between studying music and good grades, but it could also just be the students personality not the effect of music. An article i read suggested that when people ask "does music make you smarter" they imply "smarter at something else" which I thought was really interesting. It's definitely interesting to read up on. I think that music does make you smarter, but smarter at music lol. I'm always happy to share about my projects, it's nice when people are interested -🍧
My thoughts on uts. Firstly, it is such a comforting series. Idk how you do it, but every part leaves me feeling warm! I absolutely loved the whole book plot in wonwoo's part. Every part makes me so soft for the 95s, but you keep breaking my heart over cheol haha. I hope I don't sound impatient, but I'm v excited for his part. I can't wait for him to finally get his happy ending? I actually love uts (and all your other fics) so much. I hope you stay well! 🍧
hiii lovely, sorry for not getting to this sooner! i hope your project has been going well (and i hope you figured out pop up if you went with it! i love seeing the intricate pop up art <3). but ooo the power of music sounds like such a cool topic!! i get making it vague through, since i think its good when to stay vague when you're still narrowing down what you really wanna look into.
i can believe there's a link between studying music + good grades, but i do wonder if it's only a certain kind of studying music? like most people default to classical, but i legit listened to whatever i felt like when i did schoolwork/studied because not having lyrics made it harder for me to focus weirdly enough. the "smarter at something else" part is def interesting tho! plus it makes sense with the whole studying music being linked to studying something else. pls feel free to share whatever you like with me! i love hearing about other ppls pursuits, especially in academics <3
aaa tysm!! that means so much to hear, especially with some parts not being the most positive haha (kwan hao wonu) but i'm glad they still have that comforting/warm energy. im glad you enjoyed the book plot in wonwoo's part! i wanted to have some kind of connection to the teasers while stepping firmly away for wonwoo's to be more about him and the reader since reader getting the same ending as him would pretty much have meant they're destined. plus the shifting details is meant to stay in the same vein of 'weird shit happens' lol (also it was just fun to play around with writing something like a storybook).
hehe i'm glad abt the 95z tho! cheol might be the leader of the entire group, but i like making it clear that hannie and shua both also are an important factor in keeping everyone comfy/happy/cared for <3 also whoopsss (over cheol) <3 (its ok i break my own heart with cheol)
im glad ur excited though! trust me, i'm excited for it too. i have a lot planned for it and i honestly kinda think it might be longer than all the other parts once i'm fully done with it? but i'm absolutely satisfied with the plans i have, just gotta write the other parts to get to him <3
i hope you stay well as well! stay hydrated n rest well, mwah <3
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juunshua · 6 years ago
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To the point about pledis shifting channels because people don't really link their groups' successes to pledis; it's not svt but I'm a Love too & I noticed that lately nu'est w has been making a point to mention the CEO by name in their award speeches, and first too, where last year they just thanked him along with the vice & staff. Idk if it's just cause they weren't used to winning awards before & so were generally flustered or if I'm reading too far into things, but I found it interesting.
you know i wonder…i was about to say that it might be common for most idol groups to mention their ceo by name and even mention them first perhaps but i went and watched some groups receiving their awards and like…they don’t really mention the ceo by name or first as often as i thought? if they do mention ceo its often later and sometimes not even by name. and it also seems to depend on what award show theyre on? i think at least with svt, it seemed that they were more deliberate and aware of mentioning pledis’ ceo during MAMA than during the AAA. but that was this year only ahaha…last year they didnt mention the ceo by name in MAMAs but they did in the AAAs. i wonder ahah, as you say we cant really ignore that nerves could play a role in this and they just simply forget, but if any of this is deliberate is something to consider i think…it is interesting. and svt too this year! during mamas did mention pledis’ ceo first when they received the dance award ahaha i feel like at least with non-pledis groups that ive seen, their ceo names werent actually announced. but i think theres also some sort of expectation to mention certain ppl by name if they were involved in the process? not that other groups dont they usually do mention the person involved (like i watched a vid of b*s receiving the award for best mv and they thanked the mv directors which! makes perfect sense ahaha) but not usually the ceo with every award? and omg i just watched izone receiving their award for best new female artist in mamas and they mentioned han seungsoo as well oh my god ahah. im finding that most other groups do generally just mention ‘soandso company members and staff’ and dont go as far as to name the ceo ?? like the one time twice did it for best song of the year for ‘what is love’ was bc jyp helped with the composition so there was a legit reason to bring him up? ahaha this is quite interesting. wow it really does feel like hes trying to get his name out there associated with the success of all these groups
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atlaese · 3 years ago
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I'm legit going through the pain of writing these on this godforsaken app. Haha, thisbis pure wany, if you want i can come off anon i don't mind, my blog is pretty impersonal. *Puts clown hat on*ive been here since 2011 unfortunately but still you can blog and not pay yet.
You raise a question now does he like brownies? Candy? Dessert? Crepes? Ooor fancy New York things? Pizza? Sushi?
Karen has gone past her dd 2 season arch and that's why shss great in punisher. Again devolpment really nice for a character. Rare but nice. Then again if you wanna help eith criminals and youre just you i guess youll be annoying you know what i mean?
Yeah yeah matt elektra the orphan thing they match I think they made em deliberately equals. Yeah and Matt ans nat complimented each other well bec nat is also an orphan and alone and is alwaya fighting.
Ah ben Barnes makes sense.Ive watched all of his filmography 💁 naturally, its not that long!!! For years he wasn't getting any roles it was hard.
Yeah all of new York is getting gentrified is really sad methinks. Historical centres are nice but i guess rich people need placws tp live *rolls eyes*
See this is why i dont play games, im not competitive at all, I don't Care at all. I'm just here for fun hahahaha i have zero strategies. I need the boat date immediately, and the hudson definitely smells he shall wear a mask lol he'll be fine.
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oh no lovie!! i'm so sorry szkjfjez this app is the worst!! maybe you can write everything out in a notes app and then copy paste it here? also you can decide if you want anon or not! whatever you're most comfortable with! also since 2011!! look at us surviving this horrible platform. also. we're all clowns for being here so long. or just being here 🤡. we're nice clowns though. not the horror type.
ooh great question!! i do think he's a new york boy through and through, so maybe deep dish pizza? shoarma? uhm? pretzels? maybe some curly fries from arby's? (i'm actually having sushi tonight, so i really hope he would like that! sushi date pls matt!!!) he doesn't look like a dessert person to me for some reason? what do you think?
yeah i gotchu! i'm just glad her character actually developed in the punisher! in dd she just complains, ruins stuff by trying to get a scoop and idk!!
okay why do the best characters have the worst back stories? 🤨 i see a trend and i do not like it. pls give these wonderful people some fluff? like. they deserve to have a nice life after all the crap they went through!
i tried to watch westworld for ben but alas, even though it is science fiction (which i love) i find it's kinda boring, so i quit </3 thank god he was cast in shadow and bone and in the punisher! such a great actor!
pls why am i imagining him in his black dd costume and a surgical face mask rn 😂 but no, i hope you can experience a boat ride with matt soon, it looks so dreamy...
i got a question for you! which character (besides matt, foggy, karen etc) do you like best from dd? can be a villain too, of course!
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