#and i mean cishets tend to be worse than cis queers but still
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thefleshyougoveggie Ā· 10 months ago
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most of the time, itā€™s very noticeable to me whether when cis people are used to being around trans people or not.
those who have atleast one (the more, the better usually-not always) trans person who is close to them/they know very well tend to understand my transness in a completely different way than other cis people. like ofc theyā€™ll never understand me in the same way other trans ppl will (with some exceptions ofc)-but they seem to get it in a way that other cis people do.
whereas those who donā€™t really know any other trans ppl will sometimes act/say things that are unintentionally justā€¦ notā€¦ idealā€¦. like theyre (usually) trying butā€¦. itā€™s just noticeable theyā€™re very used to only being around cis people.
this is in my experience extra noticeable with men, but that doesnā€™t mean thatā€™s how itā€™s for everyone ofc:)
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full-course-identity Ā· 5 years ago
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Give me your thoughts on uuuh Jake
wew boy
okay. gonna word dump this, and probably other interpretation asks, so I can get the words out there.
from my POV, thereā€™s 3 types of canon Jake + 1 fanon vers + my personal interpretation. lemme explain what they are;
Book Jake, who I donā€™t have enough experience with bc I STILL havenā€™t finished the bookā€¦ >_>;
2River Jake, who is kinda oblivious and very in-the-moment impulsive (not so bad heā€™s jumping place to place ADHD like Rich, but like, not considering that maybe dropping everything to seduce Madeline or Christine is a bad idea when he clearly really likes Chloe). these are debatably survival mechanisms bc of his family (and wealth, if you want to go into theĀ ā€œbeing rich actually traumatizes you and locks you into dissociationā€ theoryā€“but to be fair, this is partially reliant on thinking Jake is Genuinely Rich. ā€¦ well, not Rich as inā€¦ yeah); ignoring any pain he feels in favor of getting dicked down and forgetting about everything for a while. veryĀ ā€œIā€™m not sad, Iā€™m busy!!!!!ā€Ā 
Bway (possibly the new canon general for all Jakes since it sounds like Londonā€™s is modeled after him but justā€¦ toned down), who is still oblivious, but towards other peopleā€™s emotions instead of himself; heā€™s manipulative, a little impulsive but a lot more malicious about it, and he knows exactlyĀ how hurt he is about his parents. this jakeā€™s awareness of himself makes him act worse because he knows this is the only thing that seems to help and itā€™s basically the only thing he actually has control of. his wealthiness is undeniably present and Bad here because the reason taking what he wants and not caring that it hurts people is his main coping skill is pretty much only because heā€™s been allowed that privilege all his life. i tend to think this version of him should be done by a white cishet dude (despite jakeā€™s actor on bway being genuinely FANTASTIC) bc being marginalized in a high school shouldā€™ve curved a lot of theĀ ā€œendless power and privilegeā€ he gets for being rich (Not That One).Ā 
[iā€¦ think this jake hasĀ ā€˜betterā€™/more nuanced writing in BWayā€¦ but i donā€™t think it fits the musical nor is it the overall direction i think it shouldā€™ve gone. BMC feels best to me when thereā€™s a heavier element of Dark Humor that brieflyĀ nods to a Larger and more Fucked Up world behind the bit we see in the musical. making it largely a twisted comedy, maybe even ramping that up further with more whiplash lines like jakeā€™s ā€œwhich means the house is empty, so thatā€™s funā€]
Fanon Jake isā€¦ like most of the fanon characters in BMC, a bitā€¦Ā ā€œbipolarā€ (like, radically shifting depending on the situation). the BMC fandom has been born with heavy engagement from minors in the current fascist climate of fandom as a whole. as a result, you have three general uses of jake that asĀ ā€œapproved ofā€ by somehow the exact same people despite being conflicting in a lot of ways. THIS IS NOT ME SHITTING ON FANON, i actually think most of this fandom is just a casual romp for most people and that shouldnā€™t be snatched away from them nor mocked nor treated like you HAVE to be logically consistent when this is just a fun hobby for mostā€¦ but there are still trends i notice:
1: Jake the sweet bi disaster who loves their significant other and is just a little bit hopeless in their silliness and Down For Whatever-esque personality. this is often used for shippy pictures and memes and cute little oneshots, plus, of course, fluff.
2: Jake the tragic abuse victim who is extremely sad and has to learn to love again and has always been selfless, plus or minus a permanent disability post-fire. this is of course used for hurt/comfort, plus in combination kinda with michael in the bathroom-esque posts and tragic art, often also used as an example of the squip being the worst for jeremy or rich guilt trauma. also: aesthetic and moodboard posts.
3: the one I have the least good will towards: Jake theĀ ā€œwhy does everybody woobify mlm? You canā€™t portray him without flaws! queer boys arenā€™t your fetish!!!ā€ with an attached, clunkily written reasons why he was an asshole that is also simultaneously watered down so you donā€™t think heā€™s a Monster bc then youā€™d be vilifyingĀ queer men (well, more like theyā€™d feel bad about their cutesy-er ā€˜emotional supportā€™ art and writing which is Totally Different from all the other cutesy emotional support art and writing).Ā 
basically, Meta Trying To Make Jake Reasonably Flawed But Not Evil in this fandom is RARELY genuineā€“itā€™s more often than not moralistic hand-wringing made so that they can wash themselves of the guilt for actually enjoying something with a character they portray as mlm, or otherwise the guilt of enjoying anything romantic or sexual involving men or queer people period when weā€™re apparently not supposed to do that anymore, as decreed by the radfems infesting our spaces.Ā 
and, well, or youā€™re an mlm writing this post, youā€™re probably young and still feeling extremely sensitive and scared about your identity. i once saw a very wise post by a trans person who had been trans for a long time, who said that when you first come out as trans (or queer in general, but especially trans people who are beginning social or physical transition and coming to terms with themselves) you are obvs on High Fucking Alert and so youā€™re insecure and scared of anything, ranging fromĀ ā€œobvious transphobiaā€ toĀ ā€œjust trans people enjoying themselves and exploring transphobia in fiction or else their own sexualityā€. again, this can relate to a lot of identities tbh, and as such young mlm either cis or trans can get very Itchy about people enjoying mlm content.
anyway.
wrapping it back around to me: i edit jake on a case by case basis (sometimes i even make him eviler or meaner based on whatā€™s set up during Bway, heā€™s just not my usual go-to villain), but i tend to think of him as a tragic Mr. Peanutbutter-y sweetheart who kinda knows he feels like shit yet also knows that if he stops to assess it, it would make his life a lot harder in a time where he canā€™t afford that. his relationship with chloe is extremely toxic (chloe abuses him horribly, specifically), and so he tries to claw his way out of it only to be continually back in by chloe and her bullshit.Ā 
this is why he doesnā€™t really get... well. he genuinely thought the thing with christine was going to be permanent; he wasnā€™t jerking her around, he thought he was over chloe and wanted a girl as cool and fun and genuinely nice as her. afterward he Gets It, and so feels Really Bad--at a time where he doesnā€™t have his house, his legs are broken (i donā€™t tend to put him in a perma-wheelchair), his parents have abandoned him, and he best friend is in the hospital. guilt crashes in on him from all sides, and he just has to... pretend it isnā€™t, even as he can no longer stop himself from thinking about it.
if i was to do a jake focused story, itā€™d probably be a dating sim where you play as him and watch his life change in conjunction with his attempts to find happiness again; you can either choose decisions that help him greatly or ruin his life so ver much... hmm. lets file that under hashtagĀ ā€œstory ideas iā€™ll never use even though they could be greatā€
to wrap this up: i like jake. i donā€™t... really enjoy most of the written content (fanfic, meta, sometimes even the storylines on ask blogs) in this fandom about him or... really, most of the characters, which i feel bad about--iā€™d enjoy it more if it was every in conjunction with my usual Wants in a fic, which is, like. extreme angst.
BUT
i do still like jake, and i can super enjoy his portrayal in memes and visual art
heā€™s just not my total fave, but like, the reason he tends not to come up a lot in my content is more what iā€™m focusing on and why. iā€™d be happy to use him in stories if his presence fit.
as a bonus
hereā€™s the ships iā€™m happy to use him for, generally: deere, michael/jake, brooke/jake, toxic chloe/jake, and of course, different ocs/jake
his identities/labels: cis, bisexual/romantic... tho sometimes i actually go for bisexual and aromantic! outside bway and eviler jakes, iā€™m good with him being any race, and even then itā€™s just a matter of suspending disbelief re: privilege theory. also, PTSD probably, and maybe generalized anxiety as a result. maaaaaybe autistic too? adhd would be a hard sell for me since he seems super put together in a way thatā€™d be extremely difficult for every form of adhd, but i can see him being neurodivergent on the spectrum + like dyslexia maybe. oh, and i sorta-kinda think he may be color blind? but really iā€™d drop that at a momentā€™s notice if itā€™d be easier to write him without it lol.
his interests: one is more or less sports in general, tho i think that, unless he went straight for track or swimming or something Olympics (which he probably canā€™t do now...), thatā€™s a high school or some college only focus for him. so, besides sports, i think heā€™d kinda like the satisfaction and steady growth of Collecting Rare Things That You Have To Look For, like cool rocks, bugs, etc.Ā 
as for careers... some form of doctor something, maybe a businessman of some sort but heā€™d likely try to curve his power in that field as much as possible; he inherits his parents' assets and company or whatever, but he probably takes a backseat to that and only really has it out of a sense ofĀ ā€˜itā€™s my job as my parentā€™s kid to keep the company going--without engaging in the same awful legal issues they did--for as long as i canā€™. one of my fave jake-is-there stories, vanceypantā€™s spicy bis-focused fic 1999, has him owning a restaurant, and that was cool as hell.
also jake loves dogs. especially golden retrievers. yes.
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