#and i know this is the web site that can't handle the moral complexity of kids shows
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butterflyslinky · 6 months ago
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I keep seeing anti-Tommy people saying that his past as a bad person from the Begins episodes will be the hurdle he and Buck will face. That Buck will find out about what Tommy was like and be offended by it.
Except…Buck already knows about it? Tommy's pretty openly talked about not being a good person in the Gerrard era. Maybe he didn't tell Buck exactly what he said, but he probably doesn't remember because in-universe, that was fifteen to twenty years ago. He said the 118 was regressive, and that being under Gerrard did not make him a better person.
Hen and Chimney have also been pretty open about how shitty things were back then. Maybe they didn't name Tommy specifically, but Buck can make inferences based on them talking about how everyone was shitty and Tommy was part of everyone. This isn't some Deep Dark Secret Buck would be shocked by, it's information he had before meeting Tommy.
But okay, let's say somehow Buck had all three of the people who were there telling him Tommy was not a good person back then and somehow didn't realize what that meant. That doesn't change the fact that Tommy is clearly not that person anymore and that everyone's moved on from it. Chimney and Tommy are friends, and have been for close to two decades. Hen and Tommy don't seem to be super close, but they clearly have a level of professional respect for each other and she doesn't object to him hanging out with the group (Bobby Begins Again, the bachelor party.)
Like, if this is the big problem they face, what's supposed to happen? The story grinds to a halt while Tommy details every bad thing he's ever done and Buck processes it? Does Buck need to go see Hen and Chimney to get their blessing to date a guy they're both cool with and have been for years? Does Tommy need to do an apology tour to rehash everything and reopen all the old wounds for the benefit of the guy who wasn't involved in anything that happened back then? What purpose would that serve, either in the story or for the viewers? Honestly, if Buck made Tommy do that as a condition of continuing the relationship, I would not be rooting for Buck.
No, we didn't see Tommy give apologies in perfect therapy-speak or see the work he did on himself in the years between Begins episodes and the rest of the show. He's a minor supporting character who existed in Begins to show the growth and change of the LAFD as a whole, and who was bumped up to recurring minor character to be Buck's love interest. We're not going to spend entire episodes sitting in therapy with him, we're supposed to draw conclusions from the information given so the story can keep moving.
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marshemillow · 9 days ago
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I'm actually adding a couple more;
Bullying people who like Harry Potter does nothing to actually help trans people, in fact it does less than nothing because it feeds the terfs' persecution complex and makes autistic trans people feel bad for a special interest they have no control over.
Once again: BOOK BURNING IS ALWAYS BAD. What does it say about these people that they never call for the elimination of books that are actually dangerous (like the Turner Diaries. you know. the book that INSPIRED HITLER!!!) instead they want to burn like...a fictional story about kids doing magic. You guys know there are lots of other authors today that are still alive and still doing terrible shit who have written a bunch of other books you may have liked, right? Do you know the politics of every author whose work you've been a fan of??
Hating terfs doesn't count as pro-trans activism. I have actually noticed a pattern of people hating nazis and writing entire essays about how much they hate nazis and why nazis are bad, only to then turn around and spew the most disgusting antisemitic shit ever because apparently hating nazis means you can't have nazi opinions. Hating nazis should ALWAYS be secondary to supporting jewish people, just as it's more important to support women and queer people more than it is to hate misogynists and queerphobes.
BOOK!!! BURNING!!! IS!!! ALWAYS!!! BAD!!! REPEAT IT UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND IT!!! Even the worst of the worst needs to be preserved, because we can't forget the terrible injustices committed against people throughout all of history, and we can't forget the warning signs. Nothing should ever be lost to time, because that would be like pretending it never existed.
Circumcision is genital mutilation.
Cosmetic genital "surgery" performed on intersex babies is genital mutilation.
Intersex people belong in the queer community and they should have their voices heard just like every other queer person.
Bodily autonomy means people should be allowed to do things they know can hurt them, like drugs or BDSM. It's called the dignity of risk.
If you can understand why women can be victims of the patriarchy while still perpetuating it and benefiting from conforming to it, then you can understand the same about men. How well would YOU be able to handle being told as a young child that if you cry, you lose your personhood? Or being completely useless in your own house because nobody ever taught you how to do household chores?
Being more oppressed doesn't make you morally superior. Please stop trying to play oppression olympics, you can't get a gold metal in being oppressed. It's literally just infighting, and infighting only helps our oppressors.
Guilt trips on posts will never make people reblog it more. Any variation of, "you'd better reblog this or you're a bad person" FUCK YOU. You're the reason why moral ocd on this fucking webbed site is so bad.
Some of my own certified rent-lowering gunshots because I'm tired;
"Normal" does NOT mean "good." "Weird" does NOT mean "bad."
Things that are legal can be immoral and things that are illegal can be moral.
That being said, it's not normal or legal to harass and cyberstalk real people because they drew art of cartoon characters you don't like.
Discomfort is not harm.
"Fiction that makes me uncomfortable shouldn't have a right to exist." is a fascist opinion, even if you don't have the power to enforce that standard.
Book burning is always bad.
We need to be allowed to talk about abuse realistically, even if that includes "romanticizing" the abuser because kindness is often a core component of real abusive actions.
There's no such thing as a kink that makes someone evil by default.
Thoughtcrime isn't real.
"Women are inherently inferior to men." will never be a feminist statement no matter how much you dress it up to make it sound more like benevolent sexism.
Stop trying to reinvent the gender binary.
Stop trying to reinvent the gender binary.
Transandrophobia is real and often just as bad as transmisogyny.
Psychopaths and Narcissists can be good people, you guys are just ableist.
Innate empathy is NOT the end-all be-all of being a good person. People with high empathy can do bad things. People with low or no empathy can do good things.
Autism Levels are NOT just functioning labels with extra steps.
"Pedophilia" is a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. NOT young adults. NOT older teenagers. Every other definition is wrong.
DNIs don't work.
"Degenerate" is a nazi word. Stop using it.
Doing actual good actions for other real people will always be more helpful than performatively having Correct Opinions.
Shipping discourse is stupid and pointless. All ships are good because IT'S NOT REAL. Stop trying to drag everyone into this, it literally does not matter!!!!!
Everyone should have their basic needs met. Yes, that means EVERYONE.
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