#and how the OM writers are making the decisions that they've been making

[katboykirby]

I am very curious to know what the original transcript for this Lesson was in Japanese. Because we've had more than one (a lot more than one) occasion where the translation from Japanese ➡️ English just totally changed the tone or meaning of entire scenes altogether. We've had instances where the English translation was completely different and wrong to the point it created it's own plotholes whole cloth (like that one time the English translation talked about the Devildom having a sun that just... doesn't exist)

It's not uncommon for entire lines of dialogue to be completely changed from what they were before translation. So I'm really curious to know how this scene went in Japanese, and if the less-than-satisfying way they handled "Father's love" is different in the original text.

Ok this may be nitpicking but my problem with the whole "Father's love" Is that your father Is the reason your sister is death, the whole reason y'all went to war... They casted you away because you didn't want Lilith to die...

The thing Is that Father's love Is not unconditional, If you didn't started the war, your sister would have died anyways, for the crime of loving a human too much, he practially made you choose between your loyalty to him or your love for your sister. Thats why Lucifer whole speech of "All Father did was love me, but I couldn't see It" feels shallow, because It undermines the tragedy of falling from the CR in the first place. Like If Seraph Lucifer had fallen in love with a human, he would probably had the same fate as Lilith. Simeon Is stripped of His own angelhood in S3/S4 for stealing the ring of light to save MC, so it's not like the CR Is better in the future or anything

I think Its unrealistic to expect OBM to put Father/God as this 100% Bad guy (with the whole uniting the three realms and all that) but also I feel like Lucifer should have more complicated feeling about this. I don't doubt Father loved him, but I don't think the conclusion of Lucifer arc should be that "All my Father did was love me but I was too prideful to see it"

[obae-me]

Do you think it was Barbatos who is nightbringer? I think it is very likely.

Honestly, it's truly very hard for me to say.

I personally think it's *way* too obvious. They've been trying to "hide" Nightbringer's identity this whole time, so much so that we don't even really know who he still is after two whole seasons!

As a writer, I feel like Barbatos is a red herring. They're making him all cryptic and similar on purpose.

Then again, unfortunately, Solomare doesn't do well with resolutions or plot twists. Even in original OM we knew Belphie was pretty much a demon right away even though they tried to make it this sneaky little twist. They set up this whole rivalry with Barbatos and Solomon only for it ending up being Barbatos being petty over a simple list (which don't get me wrong, has it's own charms. An anticlimactic twist can end up making for a very good comedic punchline). They sort of feed plot straight to the reader rather than letting them be confused, if that makes sense.

Which is fine, I suppose. I mean this is a silly little gatcha/otome-turned-rhythm-game, I don't expect it to have the most beautifully written mysteries. (But also...and maybe I'm biased but I feel like it's not...*that* hard to write surprises?...Is that just me? Do I have writers bias? Maybe...)

I, also quite unfortunately, feel like the reveal of nightbringer is going to be disappointing.

Now, there is still a tiny bit of hope in me, but that remains to be seen.

If it *is* just Barbatos...okay, cool, we all made that conclusion in the first game TRAILER before the game even came out. Why drag it out this long? Just confirm it, have the player confirm it, and then make the player be frustrated trying to figure out WHY Barbatos is doing this!

If its a brand new character we don't know or have never met before? Kinda cool I suppose, but it defeats the mystery if it's just some rando character they threw in there for plot purposes. Feels more like a last minute decision if it's done that way.

The best outcome- if they can pull it off- would be someone we know but don't know much about. Someone like maybe Diavolo's father somehow- I'd even settle for an ancient relative even though that falls under new character territory, or I've seen theories that its Michael somehow, or someone we know from a different timeline, or they briefly mentioned something about how fairies inhabited this land before demons did, so what if it's the fairy King or something?

Although being called the old "father of demons with control over time" suggests pretty heavily that it is...just Barbatos. But...

Can it really be called a mystery if it's been that obvious from the start?

I'm probably overthinking everything...