#Japanese media has a very long and very unorthodox relationship with Christian themes and iconography

[katboykirby]

I am very curious to know what the original transcript for this Lesson was in Japanese. Because we've had more than one (a lot more than one) occasion where the translation from Japanese ➡️ English just totally changed the tone or meaning of entire scenes altogether. We've had instances where the English translation was completely different and wrong to the point it created it's own plotholes whole cloth (like that one time the English translation talked about the Devildom having a sun that just... doesn't exist)

It's not uncommon for entire lines of dialogue to be completely changed from what they were before translation. So I'm really curious to know how this scene went in Japanese, and if the less-than-satisfying way they handled "Father's love" is different in the original text.

Ok this may be nitpicking but my problem with the whole "Father's love" Is that your father Is the reason your sister is death, the whole reason y'all went to war... They casted you away because you didn't want Lilith to die...

The thing Is that Father's love Is not unconditional, If you didn't started the war, your sister would have died anyways, for the crime of loving a human too much, he practially made you choose between your loyalty to him or your love for your sister. Thats why Lucifer whole speech of "All Father did was love me, but I couldn't see It" feels shallow, because It undermines the tragedy of falling from the CR in the first place. Like If Seraph Lucifer had fallen in love with a human, he would probably had the same fate as Lilith. Simeon Is stripped of His own angelhood in S3/S4 for stealing the ring of light to save MC, so it's not like the CR Is better in the future or anything

I think Its unrealistic to expect OBM to put Father/God as this 100% Bad guy (with the whole uniting the three realms and all that) but also I feel like Lucifer should have more complicated feeling about this. I don't doubt Father loved him, but I don't think the conclusion of Lucifer arc should be that "All my Father did was love me but I was too prideful to see it"