#and have no issue if OP wants to defend mabel.

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I would say it was less Dipper escaping reality (though that was part of it, he was literally having reoccurring nightmares) and more so he was seeking authority figures. Dipper was also acting mature/trying to act mature partially because of this and/or he probably even felt pressured to do so (on purpose or not).

(Also, he decided to give up, for now, on being Ford's apprentice too. And stuff. So there is that too).

My dude also was partially not taking care of himself as well as he could, because of these reoccurring nightmares. I do agree people can misunderstand Mabel (though, I feel like that is happening less nowadays. To the point when Dipper's reoccurring nightmares was revealed they focused on how that explained stuff more w/ Mabel, despite it being Dipper's nightmares and how much it explains stuff with him (like the stuff I mentioned) & despite the dreams/nightmares (at least, the one(s) Bill revealed. They and/or others almost certainly probably have other nightmares/dreams) Mabel had (or at least the ones revealed, had nothing to do with her parents).

Though, I do think the Pines' twins parenting affects both of them and some of their dynamic a lot (which I have already gone over some, how it does). Cool to see u defending Mabel (though, I see less people blaming her for the Weirdmaggedon compared to other things. Tbh, most people - though probably not everyone - blame who they (mostly should should. And that is Bill.

Who would have kept praying on people's desires, flaws, weaknesses, until he got what he wanted. The Pineses and others at least made it so he couldn't do so again (hopefully)). Though I kind of wish u didn't bring up Dipper's nightmares in trying to defend Mabel. Because I don't really think there was a need to do so? And because I feel like u oversimplified that point a bit too much - I know the point of this post was to defend Mabel tho, so I understand that u didn't focus on that point too much.

And I didn't really expect u to. I just felt like u oversimplified it (I went more in-depth on that in previous replies) and/or that it wasn't really needed in order to defend Mabel. Saying all that, cool of u to want to defend Mabel. I do find Dipper more well-written personally and like more. But I love Mabel too. I love all the Pines. They are all such well-written, complex, real feeling characters that have their own flaws and strengths like a real person, and I love them all for that and more. Their are some of my favorite characters and one of my favorite families ever. ^_^

But seriously though,

it was a bit annoying to be going through Dipper Pines tag, to see this post, that u seemingly only tagged with that tag to say this:

"(and btw, in the light of recent info, i. e. Book of Bill and dippers nightmares, then he too, is guilty of escaping from reality to fantasy of being ford's apprentice :P)"

, while also majorly oversimplifying stuff (which I already brought up, so I won't do so again).

"Now Fucking Fight Me"

I don't really want to fight u on defending Mabel, but I will fight you on the Dipper point, because it kind of annoyed me.

Also on how I see more complaints (I am not saying I agree with these complaints) when it comes to other stuff when it comes to Mabel, compared to blaming her for Weirdmaggedon; like I already said. So I guess I am also kind of "fighting" you on that.

i'm rewatching gravity falls and it boggles my mind how people are still to this day misunderstand mabel's character

you know what, EVERYONE who says that mabel is to blame for starting weirdmaggedon, i have something to say to you

You are guilty of the same crime you say Mabel has committed - Escapism

"what does it have to do with us??" excuse you, if you don't have the courage to face the reality and retreat to consuming content of your favourite shows, whilst not having anything or anyone tethering you to the real world, then you are guilty

(and btw, in the light of recent info, i. e. Book of Bill and dippers nightmares, then he too, is guilty of escaping from reality to fantasy of being ford's apprentice :P)

Now Fucking Fight Me