#and even if it wasn't 'yaoi' (unless you count the joseph/avdol scene with mariah too)

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I feel like the post rags on a lot about Jonaeriwagon while avoiding mentions of Jonaeridio as well as Jonadio despite the latter being the most popular ship in PB and "a bigger issue" in regards to erasing Erina completely when it comes to "yaoi ships", oftentimes making it seem like Jonathan never cared about what Dio did to Erina when they were younger, even though that was one of the biggest breaking points for Jonathan in canon. And even when it's Jonaeridio, people are literally forcing Erina to be with the guy who sexually assaulted her as a child (the whole "it was I, Dio!" thing). Not to mention the amount of times I've seen self-proclaimed fujoshis who stan that ship berating Erina and calling her names in the same way these folks berate Speedwagon.

Also, the complains about Erina and Speedwagon not being shipped romantically. Do you guys realize polyamory doesn't come in just one (1) type or form??? Vee polycules (those where one person has two romantic partners and said partners are not dating each other) exist and are just as valid as every other types of polycules! The whole complain about that only shows a lack of knowledge and understanding of how polyamory works, for starters.

And not just that, but canon showed us that Erina and Speedwagon /never/ harbored romantic or even sexual feelings for each other and, instead, that same canon showed us that they were both completely in love with Jonathan for their entire lives, and which is part of why Erina and Spw bonded as friends. Not to mention just how gay gay homosexual Speedwagon is and his absolute lack of interest in women (which a lot of other Jojo characters across all parts show even at random, even in those instances where it's completely unnecessary for the plot). There is zero reason to try to force some romance between Erina and Speedwagon and being borderline homophobic in the process (lbr, people would flip their shit if it was a lesbian character being force shipped with a man, even within a polycule).

All this is why there is usually no romance depicted between Erina and Speedwagon in Jonaeriwagon works. Erina and Speedwagon being friends does not and should not make that platonic relationship "less" than the romance they'd have with Jonathan. Both relationships are different types of love and affection -one romantic, one platonic-, but neither is "more important" than the other, unless y'all are trying to tell me you actually don't care "as much" about your friends as you would a romantic partner.

Also? I see people minimizing Speedwagon's role in Jonathan's life, like… tf? the canon literally implies that Jonathan heavily relied on BOTH Erina and Speedwagon for emotional support from start to end! Even more so when you take into account that we were told that Jonathan kept a lot of the supernatural shit that was going on a secret from Erina (up until BT she didn't have the full scope of it all).

Additionally: people writing about Erina being the one comforting Speedwagon stems from the fandom's desire to make her seem as a strong woman who needs no one (which is not entirely wrong because she is strong), and thus making the mistake of never allowing her to show any weaknesses or needing help, not even during tough moments like that despite the fact that we've seen her being vulnerable in canon, like how she was about to break near the end of PB, when it was obvious that Jonathan wasn't going to make it, or in BT when the mafioso breaks the news to her and Joseph that Speedwagon had apparently been murdered, and how it brought her back memories of when they lost Jonathan and she was visibly affected and shaking. Similarly, this type of ooc fan writing of both characters also stems greatly from the complete misinterpretation a lot of the fandom still does of Speedwagon's character, often portraying him as some kind of weak and soft crybaby despite him being literally one of the toughest mofos in all jjba (apparently, it's easier to forget that he's a regular human without any supernatural powers but who has the guts to stay and fight and help in every way he can, even if it's from the sidelines and without getting in the way). He is sensitive and shows raw emotions, yes, but he's not some emotionally weak-ass crybaby. There is a whole ass reason why Jonathan relied on him and on Erina for comfort and emotional support the entire time they were together. Come. the fuck. ON.

Round 1

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Erina Pendleton

Erina is SO MUCH MORE than just a "Generic Love Interest" that was brought in the story to continue the bloodline after everything that happens (and it's made abundantly clear time and time and TIME AGAIN that she means everything to Jonathan, to a point that she was his exact reason to standing up against Dio for the first time) but without fail she's only ever allowed to be the supportive best friend. Or a wingman for Jonathan and whoever he's being shipped with. Or simply supposed to sit there and allow her husband to have a male lover (the amount of posts I've seen of ppl using the excuse that 'it was very common back in the Victorian Era for men to keep male lovers that their wives were aware of and quietly accepted so it isn't a stretch to say that Erina and Jonathan wouldn't be the same--especially given how progressive she's written". Or of course my favorite when they completely erase her from the narrative and pretends she doesn't exist Jonathan's got their son for some reason, but nope she ain't there! 

a lot of times ppl who ship her CANON HUSBAND jonathan joestar with speedwagon will put her on the back burner of HER OWN CANON RELATIONSHIP in favor of propping up jonawagon, to the point where 90% of the archive for jonawagon/jonawagon(eri) is either erina giving jonathan and speedwagon consent to be happy together while she acts like a #LoveIsLove wingman OR they'll have the audacity to write fics where erina comforts speedwagon at HER HUSBAND'S FUNERAL

Our hero’s hot wife who was the first (and arguably) only person to give him the emotional support he needed. She’s the only person who never expects him to fulfill some mythical role, she just loves him for who he is. She’s been his best friend and the love of his life since he was 12 years old. When it comes to hero/sidekick ship, she’s forced to be a wing woman for her own husband, either nobly letting him go or peacefully agreeing to an open relationship but only for him!!! She gets nothing out of it, she’s just a good Victorian wife who is “ahead of her time”. Usually, just so she can provide a womb so that the hero/sidekick can be dads and she can conveniently be offscreen. OR she’s written as a lesbian in order to completely and “justifiably” take her out of the equation but there’s a.) no other woman in her vicinity to even ship her with b.) there’s vaguely some faceless, nameless woman we’re meant to assume she’s pursuing, not even a real OC for her.

Suzi Q

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All she's literally ever done is have a few cute exchanges with Joseph and be a sweetheart in the short time we get to see her following her minor introduction, clearly cementing some sort of playful attraction between the two and without fail she's consistently bombarded with extreme mischaracterization to make her seem vapid and cruel (and occasionally homophobic but like in a Completely Oblivious Dumb Blonde way), that she's nothing more than a gold digger who wanted to marry rich, that Joseph only married her because "he lost his actual soulmate and had to settle for her", and that it was HER fault that Joseph cheated on her decades into their marriage. Frankly, everyone who makes jokes at Suzi Q's expense regarding the cheating scandal aren't as funny as they think they are!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Literally all she’s ever done is be adorable and marry the hero and people either dismiss her completely or demonize her. She’s often ignored or made to play wing woman for the hero/sidekick ship OR she’s a horrible gold digger who only wants the hero for his money and/or she was only ever just a consolation prize for him when he couldn’t be with his sidekick. She also gets blamed for her husband having an affair. People like to say that she wasn’t good enough for him and could never replace his sidekick and that clearly he never REALLY loved her and it’s her fault for never measuring up. Her husband’s infidelity aside, she stayed married to that man for at least 60 years and canonically says she always believes in him and trusts him to save the day and yet people wanna say she doesn’t care about him. Or call her stupid for never imagining that her husband would cheat on her. The victim blaming gets really gross.