#and especially with ironwood recently in mind it seems clear that this is a pattern

[aknolan]

But it was salem ignorence that cause all of this sure what the gods did to her was awful but they right you cant just play with life and death (also they punish her the second time she try it when she talk to the god of darkness) if ruby will bring penny back it would mean that salem is right and the gods are wrong

Anon, I rewatched the segment with the brother gods and I recommend you do too. You wanna talk about playing with life and death?

How's this: the brother gods, after committing genocide on humanity, talk about how this was an interesting experiment but they'll go to other planets now because this one's a Remnant of what it once was. You know, because they committed genocide?

They created an entire sentient species to worship them, and then when a few groups of that sentient species did something they didn't like? They killed everyone.

So yeah, there was a lot of playing with life and death going on there. All of humanity was an experiment to them.

It's not Salem's ignorance that caused all this. This happened because the brother gods were so mad at a grieving woman tricking them into bringing her husband back to life that they decided to punish her. And the god of darkness explicitly says that this means she'll never be able to see her husband again! He knows how horrible that is!

So yeah, it would mean the gods were wrong. Because they are wrong.

What Salem is doing now? Yeah that's really bad. Obviously. But back then, she was a grieving woman who wanted to bring back this one person who she loved. And had the brother gods just told her she wouldn't be able to contact them again, that would have been that. Maybe she would have lived, maybe she would have tried to join Ozma in the afterlife, to put it mildly. Even immortal, that was what she initially tried to do.

The brother gods play with life and death constantly. All of humanity was their game with life and death. When talking to each other the god of light says that it's a balance they agreed on. It was their choice. They didn't punish Salem for playing with life and death, they punished her for tricking them and wrapped it in a bow of learning about the meaning of life and death. But really, they were mad that she tricked them.

Salem wasn't wrong for trying to get her husband back, the gods were wrong to punish her.

I don't know if they should have brought Ozma back, but they sure as hell shouldn't have made Salem immortal about it. Or killed everyone after she gathered some of humanity to fight them in an attempt that was completely incapable of doing any damage.