#and canon is not necessarily like Prudent with its handling of his mental illness.
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hello, meiri, i hope you can forgive me for possible being a freak in your ask box.
what do you think of threefold(possibly and a half)bullet as a romantic dynamic? i love the Shit Twins a lot, they are almost archetypally mythological to me and i've been fence-sitting about it for a while, so i'd like some outside perspective as you're one of my favourite people who does patho analysis. to get out of my ownhead or something.
i can see either of them with Daniil or Farkhad for different reasons, but also, like. they just web weaving to me with so many myths together, like the poet-muse type shit, something stereotypically femme-masc about the roles they fill (outdated, i know)
at the same time the talk of them being the same person (even if falling out of that eventually) has me like "yeah, they share everything basically"
i am just. over here. thinking and probably reading into it too much or not enough at all. so i'd like a second perspective. three(+half)fold bullet polycule yay or nay /j because i don't really know how to word the Vibes i am talking about.
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I don't consider Daniil/Peter or Daniil/Andrey as romantic and/or sexual. I never have. this is not a secret for anyone. plenty of my Fellow Scholars and people whose written and painted works I admire do, and i fw it heavy for them I do, I see and understand the appeal, I see it with my eyerballs, but I don't consider it for myself and my own lore. these relationships as romantic/sexual are not something I take into account in my own lore because I don't see it. I thought that would be obvious considering this is gonna be my 4th year writing and drawing pathologic fanworks and I've never drawn or written anything about peterdaniil or dandrey. like by that time you'd think I'd have written or drawn something if I saw it that way. but I don't. so I haven't. and won't.
the phrase "something stereotypically femme-masc about the roles they fill" perplexes me. I am going to type what I type next with the acknowledgment that you said yourself that I am "one of [your] favorite people who does patho analysis". I hear it, I am very thankful for it, I appreciate you being here, and I hope you will hear me out. I also apologize if my tone sounds a bit dry or harsh, I have a pounding headache and it's making it hard for me to be a human person currently. here goes: it is not that I don't see where you're coming from, indeed I do, and I am disappointed in it. perhaps less disappointed in you for thinking it, because if I started being disappointed in strangers for having headcanons based on some kind of discrimination or prejudice I'd spend my days suffering, and this is not something I can control nor have any interest to have control over, but maybe more disappointed that you thought I was someone who would entertain it or agree. this feels like you managed to project out sexism (misogyny actually. why am i mincing words lol) on something that is not sexist/misogynistic. which is a feat because patho is misogynistic enough as it is.
both of them, in my lore, my own lore, which I made up myself, were attracted to Farkhad. this is something I've written about at length in my two oneirotects fics, even though it's more salient in ASEFSW. most of my farkhad art which involves the twins involves an undercurrent of Fear of the Erotic[ized] Other, a fear of consumption through sex or love (an obvious projection of the twins and a rationalization of their murder). this is again something I've discussed to at length in my threeandahalffold & fourfold & oneirotects tags. desire was one of the reasons farkhad had to die: he fell prey to the twins' "convince-consume-kill" modus operanti. I have nothing to add on this.
TLDR: no. because I don't see peter/daniil or andrey/daniil as romantic and/or sexual, I never have, it's been 3 years, it's gonna be 4. a relationship with Farkhad would have been unsustainable because he was a threat to them. eroticized, idealized, feared, adored, killed and eaten. but a threat to them nonetheless. you're gonna have to go back into your own head and make up a lore for yourself like a big boy because I do not see romantic or sexual bonds between the members of the threefold bullet, I never have, it's been 3 years, it's gonna be 4, so i am of no help. farkhad is dead. he doesn't stay it. what pursues them is not desire.
#im sorry im gonna harp on it some and i hope you dont take this as me like ragging on you or anything. tone is hard to convey through text#and ive had what the kids call a Long Fucking Day#but that ''femme/masc'' line got me tripping. i would be lying to you if i said it didnt.#like sit with this for me. you want lore i see youre interested in lore and in digging right.#whos supposed to be ''femme'' here. peter? peter why? because he has long hair? because illness flattened him into numb passivity or#''histrionic'' displays of despair? surely you realize how that sounds.#1) men can have long hair. hello? 2) implying that the dysfunction of illness is feminine/femininity is the dysfunction of illness is#both misogynistic in the very ancient greek way [not a compliment] and also. ableist towards the mentally ill in ways not even canon is#and canon is not necessarily like Prudent with its handling of his mental illness.#is it because he calls the Polyhedron his ''daughter''? because he creates? the entire Utopian faction has debilitating womb envy#its even more visible of the Kains; for whom the Tower is a womb into which they can safely keep their family member#(cf. Clara's map in P1) its also visible of Dankovsky and his desire to harness Death (and as such; life) because he lacks control on it#i go on about peter because truly it's the only one i think i can see someone ''seeing it'' because andrey's not fem.#dankovsky is nowhere as effeminate as some people apprently think he is; i'd argue to say he's not effeminate at all; ESPECIALLY by#''historical'' standards. my farkhad differs from yours; and mine is not ''femme'' in any way; so it can't be him either. who else?#i think adding ''(outdated i know)'' does not particularly make it better. like. so you recognize it's bullshit?#especially since it's like. i hate saying ''wrong'' about headcanons because truly fully really everyone has their own readings.#but like. man that does not even apply here so what's the deal.#we just makin misogyny upon a piece of lore that's not misogynistic. did we need it? and for what?#anyways. this got me tripping. im a mentally ill masc dyke and a feminist. you cant be saying this here white baby...#rereading myself im sounding sooo aggro for no reason im so sorry if you managed to read that far. painkiller is not kicking in Very cool.#anyways yeah. 🫵 go back in your own head and sit with that. i am so thankful and glad peace and love that you respect my lore opinions#makes me smiles. so hopefully you can read that too. but youre gonna have to go back into your own head on this one#because i dont see it that way and never have lol 🕊#allô (answers)#anonymous#threeandahalffold bullet#fourfold bullet#threeandahalffold bullet lore#fourfold bullet lore
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