Hi. After following a hyperfixation rabbit hole (thank you, ADHD and Autism) I have been wondering if I have AvPD. I've been obsessively researching it for a while now, and it would make a lot of sense for the struggles i've been facing that just aren't really explained by my other diagnoses but also aren't really *normal* per se, but I'm scared I'm wrong or just looking for something else to be "wrong" (i put wrong in quotes bc i dont think any disability/mental illness is actually something wrong, but that's how a lot of the people around me perceive it) with me so I feel like my suffering is more valid. My thoughts and hang ups are this:
I feel like my avoidance isn't severe enough to qualify (also me: hasn't made a follow-up appointment with either my neurologist or psychiatrist bc the idea of making the phone call "wrong" is crushing; changes the time I eat lunch so I don't have to either ask to sit with the people I know would let me sit with them bc they consider me or a friend or have them see me sitting alone even tho I literally like them and want them to be my friends; still haven't applied for my college housing accoms that I literally need bc I'm too scared i'll get turned down; feels crushing embarrassment even existing in the same space as my roommate; has a grand total of 1 friend)
It could just be my social anxiety/autism/agoraphobia. I feel like none of these really explain how deeply I feel rejection (my best friend was too busy to eat dinner with me like we usually do bc finals season and I nearly threw up bc of how much it hurt, and I ended up in tears for almost an hour) or just how crushingly embarrassing I find being perceived by others/existing to be (I literally can't make phone calls unless I'm locked in my dorm without my roommate there because I feel like people will judge me for doing a normal human activity like answering my mom's phone call; can't brush my teeth in the morning bc what if people see and only do it at night when most of the dorm hall is asleep), the constant reassurance I need from people (I'm constantly asking my best friend (only friend really) if I'm annoying them/too much work/going to get left by them/actually welcome to hang out with them).
I also wonder if my self-esteem is too high since I know low self-esteem is a key part of AvPD? I don't feel like I'm inferior academically/intelligence wise, hell I'm kind of arrogant in that respect, but also feel like I'm not good enough/interesting enough/pretty enough/funny enough for someone to want to be around me and have struggled with suicidal ideation because of it. I sometimes (by that I mean almost weekly) have meltdowns where I end up just wallowing in my own self-hatred for hours and ignoring people's texts/my homework bc I feel like i'm not good enough to have friends/long term partners.
I'm also not particularly quiet when I *am* in social situations. I tend to blurt out whatever's on my mind, even though I immediately regret it 99.9999% of the time, and my ADHD impulsivity results in me interrupting people a lot even tho it makes me feel like a horrible person. I always feel like I've overshared to everyone (tho my best friend, the only person I can be around all the time and not have a meltdown, says I actually under-share and should open up more to people).
I don't have any childhood trauma that could have caused it, at least I don't think? Like. My parents are amazing, they've always been there for me emotionally and physically. I was kind of bullied in pre-school through elementary school (people would take stuff from my bag and throw it and make me "fetch like a dog," I was really short so they'd hold stuff out of my reach) and never really had friends in middle school, just these three girls who let me hang out with them when I was around but would ignore my texts a lot, not invite me places they were going, etc, and after I moved away just before high school i didn't really bother to try making friends bc even tho i was lonely it just didn't seem like it was worth it bc they wouldn't like me anyway and I was just gonna go to college soon and they'd leave me then but none of that's really traumatizing?
I don't know. I feel like it really fits but also like if it were actually a big enough problem to qualify as a personality disorder my therapist would have caught it by now? And I'm scared to bring it up bc if she thinks i'm wrong i'll probably never want to talk to her again bc i'd be so embarrassed. Sorry, this was really long. If you actually read all of this, I guess I just want to ask if you think it's even possible I could have it.
i'll give you the short answer first: yes, it's absolutely possible that you could have it. i can't tell you if you do or not, but i can tell you that all of the doubts you mentioned are things i've personally struggled with while figuring my avpd out.
i'll put a much more in-depth answer addressing each of your concerns under the cut:
I'm scared I'm wrong
here's the thing: being wrong doesn't hurt anyone. people will act like researching your own potential diagnoses and coming to the wrong conclusion is the end of the world, but the reality is, there's very little actual harm that could come from a self-misdiagnosis.
with a clinical diagnosis, if the doctor is wrong, that could end with consequences like taking the wrong medication or doing therapies that do more harm than good to you. but just doing your own research and coming to your own conclusion? the worst that happens is you use the wrong word for a while and then eventually realize it doesn't fit as well as you thought it did, or you ask a doctor about it and they decide it's not a good fit and (if they're a good doctor) help guide you toward a more accurate explanation of what you're experiencing. either way, there's no harm done!
or just looking for something else to be "wrong" with me so I feel like my suffering is more valid
here's the thing: whether avpd is the answer or not, you're suffering. and if you're suffering and you want to better understand why that's happening, you're allowed to do that! your suffering is valid whether there's a name attached to it or not, but that doesn't mean it's wrong to want a name for it. it's only natural to want to understand why you feel the way you do and find people like you.
and if you're worried about a "psychology student syndrome" kind of thing – that you might just be projecting symptoms onto yourself that you don't really experience – the best thing you can do for that is to take some time to really look at yourself and your life and see if you see those things taking place. don't worry about if they're "as bad" as other people's; if you see examples of those things in your life and you're suffering because of them, that's all it takes to know you're genuinely experiencing it.
I feel like my avoidance isn't severe enough to qualify
it seems like you already know this on some level, but yeah, all of the things you listed after this sentence absolutely sound like some pretty significant avoidance to me. again, i can't tell you if it's avpd or not, but those do sound like the kinds of things i would count toward my own self-diagnosis if it were me.
there's no hard line of how severe your avoidance has to be, or any real way to objectively measure severity in the first place. if those things are getting in the way of you living your life and/or causing you to suffer emotionally, that means they're bad enough to be taken into consideration.
the secret is, almost no one feels like what they're experiencing is bad enough. i've had times in my life where my avoidance literally almost killed me, and i still wonder if it's "bad enough". don't let that imposter syndrome feeling stop you from better understanding your brain and getting the support you need.
It could just be my social anxiety/autism/agoraphobia. I feel like none of these really explain how deeply I feel rejection or just how crushingly embarrassing I find being perceived by others/existing to be, the constant reassurance I need from people.
this feeling was actually exactly what started me on the path that led to me realizing i had avpd. i knew that i was autistic and socially anxious, and i thought for a long time that those explained what i was experiencing, but the more i interacted with people around me who were also socially anxious autistics, the more i realized i was dealing with something none of them seemed to understand.
and all of the things you described – intense emotional dysregulation caused by rejection and embarrassment and needing constant reassurance to function in social situations – are classic avpd things. so i would say, if your gut tells you those things aren't being explained well enough by the words you already have to describe yourself, avpd is definitely worth considering.
I don't feel like I'm inferior academically/intelligence wise, hell I'm kind of arrogant in that respect, but also feel like I'm not good enough/interesting enough/pretty enough/funny enough for someone to want to be around me and have struggled with suicidal ideation because of it. I sometimes (by that I mean almost weekly) have meltdowns where I end up just wallowing in my own self-hatred for hours and ignoring people's texts/my homework bc I feel like i'm not good enough to have friends/long term partners.
hey, you're talking to the guy who's not just avoidant but also a narcissist. avpd can absolutely coexist with being highly confident (or even overconfident) in certain parts of yourself.
it also sounds like that confidence is an exception to the rule. feeling like you're "not X enough" for other people to the point of having self-isolation spirals or suicidal ideation because of it are really common forms of low self-esteem in avpd. if you ever here an avoidant refer to having an "avpd spiral" or "shame spiral", the experience they're talking about is a lot like what you described.
I'm also not particularly quiet when I *am* in social situations. I tend to blurt out whatever's on my mind, even though I immediately regret it 99.9999% of the time, and my ADHD impulsivity results in me interrupting people a lot even tho it makes me feel like a horrible person. I always feel like I've overshared to everyone
the stereotype of avpd is a super shy and quiet person, and some of us definitely are like that (myself included), but not all avoidants are. there are some who mask their avoidance by coming off as incredibly social and talking to people a lot, and others who (like you described) talk a lot even if they don't want to because of other aspects of their neurotype.
i think those feelings of regret and shame that you feel in response to what you're saying are really the important thing here. those internal experiences are much more fundamental to what avpd is than how they present externally, so the fact that you're experiencing them means i definitely wouldn't count avpd out just because you're not as quiet as some of us are.
I don't have any childhood trauma that could have caused it, at least I don't think? Like. My parents are amazing, they've always been there for me emotionally and physically. I was kind of bullied in pre-school through elementary school and never really had friends in middle school, just these three girls who let me hang out with them when I was around but would ignore my texts a lot, not invite me places they were going, etc
first of all, a history of trauma isn't actually required to have avpd. it's often assumed that personality disorders are also trauma disorders because they are often associated with trauma, but there's nothing suggesting that's always the case.
there's also research that has shown some people are born predisposed to avpd. it tends to cluster in families along with social anxiety, suggesting there's some sort of heritable aspect, and some research suggests avpd might start in childhood with a person having a nervous system that's naturally hypersensitive to certain triggers.
it's also important to remember that the kinds of trauma that can lead to something like avpd aren't always things we would look at as obvious trauma. for example, one paper i found said that a possible form of trauma that could lead to avpd is having an overprotective parent – the parent projects their fears onto the child and, despite just trying to keep them safe out of genuine love and care, ends up teaching their child that the world is dangerous. we might not look at that kind of parenting and automatically see it as traumatizing, and it's hard to fault that parent for trying to keep their child safe, bu the result for the child is the same. especially if we are born with more sensitive nervous systems than the average person, things that seem totally mundane could have a significant impact on how our brains develop.
all of that to say, it is possible that the experiences you described –being bullied in school and excluded by your friends – had enough of an impact to cause the struggles you're experiencing now, even if they don't feel like trauma. it's also possible that they're unrelated, because avpd (if that is what you're experiencing) can develop even in the absence of trauma.
I feel like it really fits but also like if it were actually a big enough problem to qualify as a personality disorder my therapist would have caught it by now?
you'd be surprised what therapists don't catch, especially if there's a much more common and less "scary" label (like social anxiety) that can, on the surface, explain away what you're experiencing. i've been seeing my therapist for 8 or 9 years now and she's very aware of my avoidant tendencies, including how much they get in the way of my life, but she still never brought up avpd with me. whether it’s because they just don’t hear about avpd enough to think of it, because they avoid diagnosing personality in general, because they don’t know “do with” avpd and would rather assume it’s something they do know how to handle, or because they think avpd is just another word for severe social anxiety, a lot of therapists will see all the signs of avpd in a patient but never actually bring up avpd as a possibility.
at the end of the day, you know better than anyone how much of a problem these struggles are for you. if you think this really could be the explanation, don't worry about what she did or didn't catch. therapists aren't infallible; they're human, and they can miss things.
I'm scared to bring it up bc if she thinks i'm wrong i'll probably never want to talk to her again bc i'd be so embarrassed
i 100% get that fear. i actually had that happen to me with my therapist – i brought up a few theories of mine to her, she shot them all down, and i ended up stopping our sessions and eventually going to a different therapist for a while because i felt like i couldn't trust her anymore. ultimately, i went back to her (mostly because the second therapist was an incredibly condescending asshole and my parents didn’t know of any other options), but i honestly still haven't brought avpd up to her to this day because of that.
so i can't blame you at all, and it's okay if you feel like you need to work up to bringing this up with her. try doing some more research and getting more confident in your theory so you feel like you can explain it well to her, and maybe even put together a collection of the evidence you have for it – examples of how you feel like you exhibit the symptoms, things like that – so you have something to hand to her instead of having to explain it on the spot. once you've looked into it more on your own, you can reevaluate how confident you feel in the theory and decide if it's time to talk to her.
in the meantime, you could try testing the waters to see how she might respond to you bringing up a theory. there are some therapists who are super against patients doing their own research and having their own ideas about what's going on, so it’s good to know if your therapist is one of those people ahead of time instead of finding out the hard way.
i would also recommend telling her that exact fear if/when you do bring this up to her. that sentiment of "one somewhat negative interaction is all it takes for my embarrassment to be so bad that i can never talk to you again" is a really common thing with avpd, and is one of the reasons a lot of avoidants struggle with therapy. so being honest about that fear can both help her understand that she needs to be cautious in her approach if she does disagree with you and could actually make her more likely to agree.
I guess I just want to ask if you think it's even possible I could have it.
so yeah, like i said at the beginning of this, i think it's very possible that you could have avpd. i can't tell you for sure, but pretty much everything you've described here sounds very familiar to me as an avoidant person, so at the very least i think it's definitely worth looking into further and seeing if it continues to feel accurate as you learn more.
i hope this helps! and whether you end up concluding that you're avoidant or that there's something else going on, i hope you're able to find the understanding and support that you need.
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Show Me Yours Act Five Sneak Peek
“What are you doing?” She questions through gritted teeth.
Caleb’s anger seems to redirect to her then, his fiery gaze looking her up and down.
She’s still in the dress, but has Matty’s jacket on to cover herself up. The moment he had noticed her discomfort in the dress he’d passed it over without a word.
“Could ask you the same thing.. You…” He lowers his head to meet her eyes directly, “You fucking lied to me, Tommie.”
She raises a brow then grabs his wrist casting a glance back to Matty. Who’s smirk has vanished as he watches them both carefully, as if suddenly realising the weight of his words.
She tugs him into the hallways beyond the main venue, raising her brows and crossing her arms. “What are you talking about?”
“You slept with him?”
She pauses, arms tightening their hold around herself, “Did you cheat on me? With- with him?”
“No!” She shakes her head quickly, hands holding onto his arm, the one that's lifted to rub across his face, “It was years ago, before we started dating.”
“Before you met me?”
She pauses, and then shakes her head slowly, “When, Tommie?”
“Just after the first album came out, when we were on tour. After Texas, before Vegas, doesn’t matter… it didn’t… I met you.”
She doesn't say what he wants to hear. That it didn't mean anything, because it did.
“Did it mean anything to you?”
Her shoulders deflate and he presses on, asking her again as he steps closer. Her eyes stare at the ground as she assesses her different options, lie again and later let the truth come out or just tell him the truth now.
“He took my virginity, Caleb, it had to mean something.”
“How could you-” He pauses to step away, “You lied to me. You told me nothing happened with any of them.”
She rubs her hands across her face, “Because I knew you’d react like this. You’d freak out and-”
“I’d freak out? I’m not freaking out, Tommie, I’m fucking annoyed.”
She bows her head, like a child being told off and rubs at her arms hidden by Matty’s suit jacket.
“We haven’t since,” She finds herself telling him, “Nothing, not even a kiss.”
“Is that why you let him treat you like shit? Let him walk all over you? For a chance to be there when he needs another good fuck?”
Her posture changes from defensive to offensive in a single second, head snapping up, downcast eyes staring through him. “Are you kidding?”
“No.”
She shakes her head, “Caleb, it was years ago, I chose you. I chose you.”
“But you didn’t,” He shakes his head, lips in a pout, “Not really, whenever he calls you’re there. You drop anything for him, you forgive him no matter what shit he does. Quite frankly, Tommie, it’s pretty fucking pathetic. It’s like you’re in love with hi-”
He pauses, his entire demeanour fades away, the anger replaced with sadness as he looks at the guilty look on her face, “You’re in love with him.”
It’s not a question. It’s a realisation.
She doesn't even try to deny it, to shake her head, to come to terms with it, because until this moment, she didn’t realise she was still in love with him either.
The doors behind them open, “You guys okay?”
Still on holidays (very overstimulated and hiding in my room alone for a few hours lol) and when I get back I have no move into my uni accom so it’s gonna be a while before the next part is fully out. But here’s a little sneak peek.
Also I’m going to be working on fics and blurbs (all based around Tommie and Matty) which I’ll publish soon
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If u are still doing the ask game; 🎨 (bonus if u do one piece of ur fanart and one piece of someone elses fanart) and I’m fairly sure u have cats so 🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸 pls show
hi anon ily🥰 thank u for asking!!!
writers' truth and dare asks
🎨 ⇢ link your favourite piece of fanart and explain why you like it
omg i have SO many. literally every piece of art i see is my fav in some way ahfkwjdkwks i am just so in love with fanart. it is so special and so filled with love.
the first that comes to mind is this art that my friend courtney did for my 20th 🥺 it's definitely one of my favs because hello it's COURTNEYWIRTHIT. and also IT'S USAGI AND MARINETTE??? and also bc this was at a time following a break id taken from fandom and really felt like no one really cared about me anymore. i was midway through moving out of my uni accom and i was feeling shitty because i was stressed and i missed my flatmates and i opened ig by chance and saw this art 🥺 it just. filled me with so much happiness. it was such a thoughtful gift and it always reminds me that i am cared about whenever i see it. courtney is the kind of friend that i know is there even in the quiet moments. she is so special to me
and HSJDHAJA okay one piece of my art. anon u r so cute i love u. this marinette art is from 2019 and to this day it makes me feel so soft whenever i see it
i drew this when my 'fandom' for ml was literally just me and my friend from school and all my friends from my previous fandom were extremely amused by my nosedive into ml. i remember sitting on my floor and spending so long drawing this my back was DEAD afterwards but it was so fuelled with just. pure love for maribug. i still had no idea how to draw her properly and i didnt really have many ideas of scenarios I wanted to see her in but i just loved her so much i had to do SOMETHING. it's just a very pure drawing from a very sweet time of my life :')
🌸 ⇢ do you have any pets? if you do, post some pictures of them
ahdkajska u know me so well. i have three cats!!
lia begum (lia)
miss bella un nissa (bella)
and mr lucusuddin habibullah ibn al abu bakr (lucas)
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Officially starting my job as a campus receptionist / ra tmr and I am both excited and nervous.
It's not like any job I've had in the past before and I only have the one day to get used to everything before the big move in day for most first years and I'm lowkey really scared of it lol
Like my manager was talking about it like it's doomsday 😭😭
I'm sure I'll be fine but it's hard not to be a lil intimidated. I don't have to worry about in person lectures or anything until the week of the 16th so yippee!! I have a few online intro ones but they're like max 30-45 mins.
But my accom is nice aside from a few problems. I had to thaw out the freezer since it was frozen solid and the drawers wouldn't open and the internet isn't working but I already submitted a maintenance report so hopefully it's fixed before my online talks start.
I hope you're doing well anyway Bee !! The post abt worrying about what direction your life is going is so real, a lot of the time I worry abt if college is gonna be right for me but only time will tell.
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oh that's so exciting shark anon!!! don't worry too much, I remember when I was a 1st year in uni I thought my RA seemed very cool and put together.
also I'm sure if the internet is required for your classes they'll try to fix that asap. it's super nice that you don't have any in person lectures till the 16th! you get to chill and adjust till then!
yeah don't worry too much about where you're at yet shark. you're still in undergrad (I think?). you're not locking yourself into anything yet. you're going to get a lot of life experience at college and then you'll get even more life experience once you graduate and even then you might not exactly know what you want to do but you can figure it out one day at a time. just gotta let things go at their own pace. I'm always overthinking the direction of my life and I'm very prone to spiraling into anxiety episodes where I think I'm doing the wrong thing but my therapist reminded me today that there's always so many more opportunities than what people think there are. you can go so many directions with your life, it's just getting started :)
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How to write a fanfic with the help of AI
Nowadays, with the advent of ChatGPT and its retinue of AI chatbots, asking AI about anything seems easier compared to doing a web search. Googling produces a lot of noise that hinders you from finding the data you’re looking for. Searching for recipes for me took me a long time. What if I needed a recipe that consists of specific ingredients? ChatGPT solved that problem for me. Recently I’ve relied on ChatGPT on recipes --- give it a prompt like which ingredients you have on hand and which dish. It works like a charm every. Damn. Time. I recommend you try it.
Anyway, one day I was reading two fanfics off the Arashi fandom and had a lightbulb moment. What about contributing another fanfic to the fandom? I actually have a WIP novel that I’ve decided to set aside for the meantime. Now the question is: should I enlist the help of ChatGPT?
Why did I talk to it like a human being? Because I knew it can respond in an almost human-like manner.
So I gave it my idea: I wanted to write something about Nino being the troubled person who witnessed the death of his best friend, Sho. Jun becomes his therapist, and Ohno was Sho’s boyfriend whose aim was to investigate the death of his boyfriend. Aiba is Nino’s other best friend who was also close to Sho from childhood.
A few seconds later, it responded, praising my idea and even offered a working title. But that’s not all...
It also produced a possible synopsis...
...character descriptions...
...and laid down the basic outline of the story, complete with highlights per stage. I was completely impressed with what ChatGPT can do, and I was intrigued with what it can still offer.
I offered a location idea for the story, and it came back with a list of possible areas where the characters hang out or where the story can happen, all within the city of Düsseldorf.
Wow. The list it came up with --- back then you’d pore over maps, do a web search on blogs, or even visit the areas mentioned, but now ChatGPT delivered.
Now with the basic parts laid down, you might be asking: “Did you ask it how to write the actual story?”
The answer is I did ask it to write a sample first chapter.
It looks great from the get-go, but it reads a bit stiff. If you have been reading the fic on AO3, you will notice I made some changes and added a bit of imagery, especially at the end of the chapter.
Now I realised that ChatGPT can, in fact, write a decent chapter. Rule of thumb is never rely on ChatGPT when writing the final draft 100%. So at every chapter that I pitch to it, it writes a sample chapter first, then I proofread and edit on Google Docs, adding embellishments that only human writers can do. Asking ChatGPT to make a portion of a chapter conversational is just as decent; you will still need to rewrite to perfect it.
Whenever I ask a question, it will give me multiple angles to my answer, like this one below:
ChatGPT provides you something to ponder, not just giving answers outright, which helps me as a writer imagine possibilIties and move the story forward.
Throughout the process, ChatGPT is my beta reader: I throw ideas to it and it will give suggestions, hints, and helpful reminders. It being a beta reader works only up to a point, because it changes the voice whenever I asked it to proofread a paragraph. While ChatGPT seems to be a capable and supportive beta reader, you will still need to rewrite and/or make changes to the text to make it read like you envisioned it.
To end this article, I will present its version of the 13th Chapter side by side with the one I wrote.
Here’s ChatGPT’s version:
And the published version, which you can read here.
I understand that there are many people who view AI as an instrument that will soon take over many human jobs, particularly the arts. While the fears and doubts are somewhat valid, I recommend that we all take both opinions and AI with a grain of salt and exercise caution. It is true that AI can definitely be a tool that will help you accomplish your tasks, and it has helped me write my fanfic in ways that I haven’t been able to in many years. Right now it helped me foster my love for writing and improving upon it.
Take all the time you need to think about how AI can help you with everyday tasks. There are tons of first-person accounts on how ChatGPT assisted them in their jobs and everyday life (even ADHD patients swear by it!) and I hope you all keep an open mind on it.
Good luck!
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