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Your response hit the nail square on the head about the most interesting/conflicting dynamics of Jazz as a character. Arguably, Jazz is loyal to the Autobots - his friends really - more so than the cause. He’s more loyal to people than ideologies, unlike the others. Thus, more of a closed book when it comes to his morally dubious acts as Spec Ops officer. But to an extent, I feel he’s also proud of what he’s capable of, not always the acts themselves, but his level of skill, quick thinking, and competence? So that adds another layer of complexity to how much he compartmentalizes himself. What’s most interesting though is how paradoxically Jazzwave fics center around themes of honesty. SW and him are enemies, yet your line from DwtD really sums up why I think this pairing works so well: “It’s kinda fun to be tangling with someone who knows what he is and what he’s capable of like this. Normally he has to pretend to be harmless.”
SW understands the underpinnings of the job more than other people, however, like you brought up, isn’t obliged to hide it under a facade. Ive always been interested how SW (and his cassettes) provide Jazz with the opportunity with unrepentant judgment or freedom to be himself more so than any one else. Truly, a family of goons. There’s also mutual respect for each other’s competence and a level of understanding that these two are loyal to the people (SW equally to his cause). But from the comics, you can say that they’re both fundamentally striving for the same ending to the war: Peace. Which is also an interesting part to the relationship. Hopefully this makes sense. Your fic/response got me feeling and thinking all sorts of ways about these two.
no worries, it does make sense! and as someone who is constantly having Thoughts about jazzwave i can very much relate :P
i’d actually been thinking just recently about how jazz gives me the impression of being someone who cares way more about like, actual people and on the ground realities than abstracted ideas of how things 'should' be. i’m still noodling on it so i don’t have anything more coherent to say yet, but i do very much get that vibe from him
and yeah honesty is such an interesting theme with these two - if jazz shows a very different face to his enemies than he does to his friends, then as Soundwave crosses that boundary he might get a more rounded view of jazz than people who have always been one or the other would have. and because they started off as enemies, the things that would be new to soundwave are kinda the opposite of what jazz would typically hold back from people he's being genuinely vulnerable/intimate with? like, soundwave has already seen jazz's most morally questionable tendencies, already had them directed at him personally, so none of that needs to be hidden or comes as a shock to him. idk, it just makes me think of that one tumblr post about how enemies to friends to lovers can be really compelling bc it's like, this person has already seen you at your worst, that was their first impression of you even, and yet they’re willing to both accept that as a part of who you are and also acknowledge that you're more than just that. being drawn to who you are in entirety, both good aspects and bad
in terms of jazz being honest about all the dimensions of himself without obfuscating or compartmentalising, i’m with you that soundwave would be able to offer unique opportunities here; soundwave’s loyalty, once a person has it, is famously absolute. tho i do also think that other members of Autobot spec ops would be accepting in a similar way if jazz was willing to trust them with that. of the two factions, the Autobots (typically, like everything this varies by continuity lol) are more invested in being The Good Guys who are On The Right Side morally speaking. and putting so much stock in that identity inevitably encourages an atmosphere of moral judgement and perceptions of a person's inherent worth being tied to how they are judged under those metrics – which is why I tend to think of the spec ops bots as being a bit insular, in these circumstances. being judged for doing wetwork and sabotage that's simultaneously acknowledged as necessary is a breeding ground for Us vs Them mentalities (whereas the main tension between the Decepticons and their intelligence unit is just every ‘con being like ‘god i wish soundwave would stop reading my personal emails’ lmao). tho of course autobot spec ops people being able to offer that acceptance is a separate issue from how willing jazz is to be vulnerable in the first place. and this is wandering more into the realms of my headcanon here, but i don’t think jazz would be willing to take that risk (especially not when these are people he has authority over, and they're also in the middle of a war so double agents and calculated betrayals are a real possibility), and i don’t think any of the spec operatives would be willing to push when it comes to this, for various reasons. soundwave on the other hand, being a) not under jazz’s command bc he’s the enemy and b) the kind of guy who sticks his nose in other people’s business for fun, is better positioned to get this ball rolling imo
#satellite speaks#long post#anon there is so much good stuff in this ask#i didn't touch on everything you said but just know that i vibe with all of it 👍
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Maybe your mutuals, who might already be accepting of of ships like thorki, aren't outraged about sylki, but there's a lot of that going on in the wider fandom on Twitter and Tumblr. Apparently it's basically incest (no one tell them about thorki) and also homophobic and can cause a lot of harm to "communities and minorities". It's all fun and games until someone thinks it's morally acceptable to dimension jump and fuck their alternate self. I swear antis can't hear what they sound like lol. 1/2
I don't remember what I posted to prompt this ask, so I'm sorry if my reply feels a little disjointed! But re: Sylkie - I mean, I can't really speak for my mutuals but the general consensus on my dash has nothing to do with any ~problematic~ elements and everything to do with how cliche and unnecessary the ship is. I'm not really sure how the ship is basically incest?? I mean, I know where the show has landed (that she's a Loki) but interpretation-wise in the fandom, either she is a Loki, or she isn't. If she is, then it would be selfcest, not incest, and if she isn't, then she's basically just some woman he met and fell for. They didn't grow up together, they don't share any genes, they aren't siblings.
Also," the ship is homophobic and can cause harm to communities and minorities" - okay. Lmao. Calling Loki/Sylvie homophobic is, I'm assuming, stemming from outrage that a confirmed bi character would be interested in someone of the opposite sex - but, I mean, what do they think bisexual means? Calling Loki/Sylvie homophobic is actually biphobic af, tbh.
"It's all fun and games until someone thinks it's morally acceptable to dimension jump and fuck their alternate self" should be embroidered on something, bc that is one of the funniest and also "out of context, this would be really fucking weird" comments I've ever seen on this hellsite. Lmao. Bless.
But, yeah. I'm not super here for the ship, but it has nothing to do with any 'cesty reasons. Insofar as it getting in the way of Mobius/Loki - I mean, if you're gonna boycott and hate a ship on behalf of the oppressed, you gotta at least be consistent about it. Mobius/Loki could be (and is, by some) considered an abusive ship. Not only is Mobius verbally abusive to Loki, but Mobius is - and never stops being - in a position of power over Loki. They're not on an even foundation, and furthermore prisoners can't freely and willingly consent to sex/relationships with those holding them prisoner so, congrats, there's your problematic, abusive, r*pe apologist ship, my purity loving friends. Enjoy sitting with those rainbows and candy canes for awhile.
(^^ I don't necessarily see Mobius as abusive toward Loki, for reasons I can't articulate, and I don't feel it's a problematic ship (though the power dynamic actually is a factor), for the record. But this was a fun exercise in critical thinking.)
Anyway, so yeah, I'm not surprised that the purity culture antis are raging, I'm just glad to not be seeing it. Like I said, in my corner of the fandom, the issue with Sylkie is just the context of it - it being cliche, it coming out of nowhere, and it being a plot at all bc Loki didn't need a love interest and Marvel sucks, consistently, at writing good love stories.
I'll probably expand on this in a separate post, but those are basically my issues with the ship as well. I don't really have a problem with it, in theory. I don't disagree that the characters have chemistry, and that they've trauma bonded, in addition to sharing the variant bond that allows them to skip right over a lot of those 'let me slowly trust you and let my guard down as I reveal more and more of myself to you' steps; they get to skip those steps bc each variant already knows them. They know their own walls and protective layers, and they know what's at the core, just by virtue of being two versions of the same person. And in that sense I don't even really have a problem with how quickly it came about, I guess.
But it's like - yeah, this definitely needs its own post, lmao, but basically I feel like it could make sense in theory but doesn't follow in practice. But maybe it will over the next two episodes, who knows.
On that topic, though, I like your speculations. Somewhere between yesterday and today I gave up on my own speculations, though, bc the showrunners confirmed it was romantic and I don't feel like bothering anymore. It would have been cool to see some kind of magic or a plan or even something a little more surface-level than 'I love you bc of reasons,' but, well. Sometimes you order eggs off of the menu and you meant scrambled and you're expecting some fluffy, hot, cooked to near-perfection scrambled eggs and the waiter comes out with a runny sunny-side-up dish and when you're like the fuck is this? they just shrug and say, I don't know, you ordered eggs? And looking at it on the plate - technically not wrong but unappealing, bland, and not what you expected - just leaves you feeling like, oh. Okay. I can plainly see there are no hidden scrambled eggs here, so I guess I'll just eat these.
I'm not longer sure if the ship or the show or both are the wrong eggs, lmao. This shit is why I really enjoyed Loki's love metaphor, even though later interviews w/ the showrunners and Tom framed it as not really being great or profound. Which adds more credence to the possibility that I might just have shit taste in general, but well, there we are.
Thank you for the ask and sorry it took awhile to answer!
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An essay abt Fabian Aramais Seacaster
This is the essay that i wrote for my greek myth class. The assignment was to find a contemporary example of Hubris and Nemesis.Understand that some story elements are simplified and glossed over bc this was only supposed to be three pages and i wrote five. Idk like one person on tumblr wanted to see it and a few ppl on twitter as well. So enjoy??
In recent years there has been a rise in popularity in TableTop Role Playing Games (RPG), this is due to shows like Critical Role, The Adventure Zone, Not Another DnD Podcast and Dimension 20. These shows have amassed large followings and have even gone and performed live around the world. Viewed as a collaborative storytelling medium, using dice to define the success of one's actions, it is only reasonable to wonder if the traditional storytelling devices seen in classic mythology translates into this medium. Examining the plot to Dimension 20 Fantasy High a clear example of hubris comes to mind. This hubris is shown by a Player Character (PC) named Fabian Aramais Seacaster in the second season of Fantasy High. To understand the significance of the hubris and Nemesis, one must understand Fabian’s personality in the context of this show and how that relates to the situation he was placed in. Understanding Fabian as a character will also allow the viewer to understand how cruel Nemesis was to him. Nemesis’ cruelty can also be examined as a part of games mechanics and reflected in the relations between Dungeon Master and Player.
For ease of understanding, I will first explain the context in which Fantasy High takes place. In the introduction to the show, the Dungeon Master (DM) Brennan Lee Mulligan explains that: “Now we can answer the age-old question of; What if John Hughes ran a tabletop RPG game?” The show follows a group of heroes who call themselves the Bad Kids as they attend the Aguefort Adventuring Academy: the world’s premier training ground for would-be Heroes. It is the first episode of the show that Fabian is introduced. He is a half-elven fighter raised by infamous pirate Bill Seacaster and Hallariel Seacaster. Played by Lou Wilson, Fabian is: “Everything [Lou Wilson] wanted to be in high school; rich and hot.” as he stated in an episode of Fantasy High: Extra Credit. It is here in Fabian’s very first scene that the viewer is given a key insight into Fabian’s hubris. While talking to his father before the first day of school, Bill Seacaster says to Fabian; “You’re my son, you’re a direct reflection of me! You and your glory is the same as mine and my glory! That’s how we relate to each other!” (Mulligan, S1 E1). This statement is important because it will directly play into many of the choices Fabian makes in the following episodes. In the very same interaction, Fabian is gifted by his father an Auguefort Owlbears letterman jacket, as Fabian hopes to make it onto the team with the tryouts happening later that day. The jacket becomes a great symbol for both Fabian’s hubris and identity as he does not initially make the team but still decides to wear the jacket to school nearly every day. As hubris is defined as someone viewing themselves as either above or below their true social rank. hubris is also seen as acting out of an overblown sense of importance. In a society where a social ladder is clear, Jocks and cheerleaders ‘rule the school’ and the nerds find themselves at the bottom, wearing a letterman jacket for a team that you are not a part of is very much believing yourself above your true position on the social ladder.
While the jacket is a minor display of hubris in the first season as Fabian does eventually find his way onto the Owlbears, it is not until Fantasy High: Sophomore Year that Fabian’s hubris is met with Nemesis. In sophomore year, the Bad Kids find themselves on a quest to retrieve the crown of the Nightmare King. Their journey leads them to the pirate city of Leviathan. Here the city is made up of ships roped and assembled together, it floats in the Celestine Sea. On their first night in Leviathan, Fabian separates himself from the party and heads off, now pensive as this city reminds him of Bill Seacaster. On his own, he meets members of his father’s cult. Warlocks who have given patronage to Bill Seacaster as he is now causing chaos as a devil in the nine hells after dying at the end of freshman year. Initially, these pirates praise and celebrate Fabian as he is their patron’s son. They believe Fabian their saviour. Their reaction changes, however, when they ask Fabian to describe how he defeated Bill Seacaster in combat. These warlocks believe Fabian to have killed his father in a grand and epic battle. Although, in actuality, Fabian killed his father in an act of mercy after their home was attacked by mercenaries. Fabian tries to explain this to these pirates and they immediately become frantic and fearful of the lack of potency and power of their patron. They believed Fabian a powerful enough swordsman to defeat Bill Seacaster, thus powerful enough to defeat one of Bill’s long standing rivals, a man named James Wicklaw (Mulligan, S2 E5). With a hurt pride and desperate to prove himself, Fabian declares: “I am perfectly capable of leading an army, Alright? I am my father’s son through and through. And I am as good as he is...” (Mulligan, S2 E5). It is here with wounded pride that Fabian sets out to prove himself in the eyes of his father’s cult. He leads them in an attack against James Wicklaw. Fabian’s hubris here comes from overcompensating for his hurt pride. He goes above his social standing, believing himself powerful enough to defeat Wicklaw on his own. This is however not true, as Dungeons & Dragons is a game where antagonists have challenge ratings and players gain levels in certain abilities. It is up to the Dungeon Master to balance encounters and choose antagonists appropriately. James Wicklaw was a Mind Flayer, listed in the Monster Manual as a level 7 challenge rating. Fabian at the time was a level 8 Fighter (Perkins, p.222). While this seems balanced, Fabian was immediately grappled and stunned, leaving him unable to do anything but watch, while Wicklaw and his crew slaughtered the 20 followers he had brought into battle. Nemesis comes to Fabian by removing his sense of identity. As Chungledown Bim, one of the warlocks says to Fabian before dying; “Ye ain’t no pirate and Bill would spit in your eye…I’m gonna shit in your mouth” (Mulligan, S2 E5). Ultimately these words would affect Fabian so much that they will come to haunt him in later episodes. Punishment in Dungeons & Dragons does play out differently then it does in classic Mythology. Where the gods of the pantheon are near impossible to reason with and are cruel and unforgiving in their punishments, the ones in control of the world of D&D are you and your friends. A good DM is on the side of their players but it is their job to react as the world in which their players find themselves. In this situation, Lou Wilson made a series of dangerous and reckless decisions as Fabian but these decisions were exactly the decisions that Fabian would make. He is prideful, he is overconfident, he is selfish and ultimately insecure when his pride is threatened. By losing his sense of identity, Lou and Brennan made the decision away from the table to push Fabian’s punishment past simply a character choice and into the mechanics of the game. At the table, we see Fabian shed his father’s eyepatch and sword along with his letterman jacket. These items are obvious symbols of Fabian’s sense of self. It isn’t until a later episode that the viewer sees the true effect that losing his identity has on Fabian. He suffers from exhaustion and pneumonia in the following episode and seems to have fallen into a depressive state. In episode 8, the Bad Kids go to face Wicklaw again, this time together as a team. It is here that the viewers and the other players learn that Lou and Brennan decided to remove all classes and feats Fabian had taken throughout the campaign. This leaves him with a single attack. Talking about this decision in the Fireside Chat, Brennan and Lou said: “[Lou Wilson]: A lot of it is a relationship and trust between you and your DM; in that your DM sees you make that choice, the less strategic choice…and meets you in the middle...It was so much more fun because...Brennan rewarded my choices with the reality and groundedness they deserve...’[Brennan Lee Mulligan]: ‘I think there comes a moment when playing D&D, where you can say: ‘I can really blow it and tell a better story’...I need to honor the danger Lou has put himself in and I need to put consequences here and I just can’t be vindictive.” This quote highlights the main difference with how hubris is treated in this media. Nemesis and the other Greek gods do not care, as characters, if their punishments are juste. They are particularly vindictive and often do not care if you die because of your hubris. Athena did not care about the importance of storytelling when cursing Arachne for boasting of her weaving skills, she simply cared that Arachne be punished for her hubris (Buxton, p.80). In opposition to this, a Dungeon Master and their players are more similar to the poets composing the myths. They make choices while considering the narrative, they enforce nemesis in a way that adds to the narrative. Using Nemesis allows the DM to enforce consequences onto the players allowing their decisions to feel more significant and raise the stakes. However, because of teamwork between player and DM, Nemesis will be much more forgiving to a Player Character then a Non-Player Character (NPC) or those showing hubris in myths. In conclusion, hubris and Nemesis still find their place in the world of RPGS. Fabian Aramais Seacaster is a clear example of this. He boasts of his abilities, believes himself a captain, when in actuality he is at his best when working in a team. Nemesis removes his sense of identity and confidence, forcing him to face his enemies without the skills he had honed in the past few years. She forced Fabian to realize that his true strength comes from the bonds he has with his friends and not borrowed from another's reputation. Nemesis forced Fabian to face his insecurities for which he was overcompensating, playing a key part in the larger elements of Fabian’s journey to becoming his ‘own darling man-boy’.
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rules: answer these 85 statements about yourself, then tag 15 people
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1. drink - water (or cane’s sweet tea if you wanna be not boring)
2. 📱 call - ......my doordash delivery last night lmao
3. text - from my mom abt college stuff
4. song you listened to - my love by new politics
5. time you 😢 - i think i cried watching tpn yesterday
HAVE YOU EVER
6. dated someone twice - no
7. 😘 someone and regretted it - i guess not fkdjflks
8. been cheated on - i don’t think so?
9. lost someone special - nope
10. been depressed - uhh idk?? not officially
11. gotten drunk and thrown up - nah
FAVORITE COLORS
12. blue
13. purple
14. pink (wow i’m bi as hell)
15. green
in the last year have you
16. made new friends - yes 💖
17. fallen out of 💛 - no
18. 😂 until you 😢 - yeah!!
19. found out someone was talking about you - not in a bad way
20. met someone who changed you - i mean probably??
21. found out who your friends are - i hope so jfkdsjflks
22. 😘 someone on your facebook friends list - lmao no, what fb friends
GENERAL
23. how many friends from your fb friends list do you know irl - ??? what year is this
24. do you have any pets - i have a lhasa apso named shimmer!! she’s 8 hours away though
25. do you want to change your middle name - nah it’s cool
26. what did you do for your last 🎂 - i did an escape room with some people from my dorm and then got food after, it was fun!!
27. what time did you wake up today - like 11 am? it’s spring break i’m not keeping track
28. what were you doing last night at midnight - .......i think i was watching dimension high school which just. wild
29. what is something you can’t wait for - short-term i’m really excited for the wotakoi ova (and a lot of other shows but they), otherwise for the semester to be over jkfsjgkls
30. what are you listening to right now - spaceship by art sorority for girls just came on, it’s my general spotify playlist called thing bc i’m a creative genius
31. have you ever talked to a person named tom - i don’t think so actually? i’ve known people named thomas
32. something that gets on your nerves - random pet peeve i remembered recently: people putting two periods like .. what is that, idk why it bothers me so much but like. do a period or do an ellipsis pick one
33. most visited website - probably tumblr or college stuff, it varies
34. hair color - blonde? brown? no one can decide
35. long hair or short hair - it’s like shoulder length right now idk which that is, unless this is a preference question?? in that case i go back and forth so idk
36. do you have a crush on someone - god i wish
37. what do you like about yourself - i feel like i’m a generally nice person!! which every nice person says right skfdkjfl but i always try to be nice to people, i think it’s really important
38. want any piercings - not particularly? i already have my earlobes and cartiage pierced, if anything maybe double earlobe someday
39. blood type - i’d love to know
40. nicknames - nat lmao, also flamingo (my friend came up with it in like 5th grade and it stuck)
41. relationship status - single (unfortunately? maybe? who knows)
42. zodiac - pisces
43. pronouns - she/her
44. favorite 📺 show - as far as like standard tv i love the good place, as far as anime (bc you know. anime blog) i have to say ouran high school host club, shocking i know, it has a real special place in my heart
45. tattoos - i don’t have any and i feel like i’m way too indecisive for them
46. right handed or left - right
47. ever had surgery - i got my wisdom teeth and some others removed when i got braces
48. piercings - earlobes and cartilage like i answered earlier whoops
49. sports - god no, i played soccer in first grade
50. vacation - don’t really know what this is asking but i’m probably studying abroad in japan next year!!
51. trainers - like shoes? yeah i mostly wear tennis shoes
MORE GENERAL
52. eating - i had cane’s earlier, i’m the pinnacle of health
53. drinking - still water
54. i’m about to watch - nothing in particular, i was watching lets plays earlier kdsjfksj that phase hasn’t left
55. waiting for - me to get my life together? lmao idk
56. want - spring break to not end
57. get married - maybe? i’m not fundamentally against it but it’s not a life goal either, whatever happens happens
58. career - i wish i knew
WHICH IS BETTER
59. kisses or hugs - not to expose myself but i don’t really think i have enough experience to judge this fairly
60. 👄 or eyes - eyes
61. shorter or taller - taller, someone’s gotta be able to reach stuff
62. older or younger - older ig
63. nice arms or stomach - very situational but i guess stomach
64. hookup or relationship - relationship
65. troublemaker or hesitant - is hesitant the opposite of troublemaker? look i’m a goody two shoes but also jokes are fun so idk
HAVE YOU EVER
66. 😘 a stranger - no
67. drank hard liquor - no lmao
68. lost glasses - i don’t think so? i think i lost a lens out of a pair though dfjksljf
69. turned someone down - in like middle school i think
70. sex on first date - no
71. broken someone’s ❤️ - uh ouch i don’t think so? not as far as i know
72. had your 💔 - my fourth grade self would say yes jfkdsjlhfj
73. been arrested - read: goody two shoes
74. 😢 when someone died - this is gonna sound really bad but i don’t think so? i don’t really cry over major things, just dumb stuff
75. fallen for a friend - l m a o that’s all i do, local bi disaster here
DO YOU BELIEVE IN
76. yourself - uhhh i try
77. miracles - i like to
78. 💛 at first sight - not love no
79. 🎅 - my dad would say he’s the spirit of christmas so i’ll go with that
80. 😘 on a first date - depends on the situation
81. angels - fits in my general philosophy of “how should i know”
other
82. best friend’s name - not gonna expose myself or them lmao
83. eye color - not to be That Person but they’re like every color, mostly bluish-greenish though
84. favorite movie - god i’m so bad about movies, uhhh coco was really good
85. favorite actor - i have no idea
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thank u to @sasa299 & @thedeconstructionist for ur interest! gonna try to keep this semi organized & spoiler-free
i don’t have an exact claim yet and also tumblr ate the first draft of this section while i was editing, but i have been thinking about how wanda & vision have such a loving relationship, like show affection and share a bed and have each other’s backs no matter what, and yet have no sexual relationship whatsoever. and how that’s kinda queer!
(tumblr ate the first draft of this part too, but that’s ok we will try again!) to some extent I’m sure the total non-sexuality of wandavision is a choice on Disney’s part—vision is comparable to a Disney prince in his purely romantic love for his wife. but even compared to other modern superhero content, there is a lack of sexuality. as this excellent article from blood knife (linked here) asserts, most of today’s superhero media presents an almost fetishized take on the hero & his relationships. there is often an emphasis on the sexiness of the characters without much or any emphasis on the characters actually having desire. wandavision is pretty much the opposite: wanda & vision are not shown as “sexy” in any particular way and yet are undebatably deeply in love with one another. somehow they fully surpass the limits imposed by the conventions of the heterosexual superhero genre, and are all tenderness!
even their children, who are definitely a product of both parents as evidenced by the powers they show off by the end of the series, are not a product of any typical process of reproduction. according to lore i read on wikipedia, wanda borrows some magic to create her pregnancy and that’s that. to be fair, as the episode with the gum incident makes very clear, vision does not have an internal human anatomy. he is functionally a handsome ai! but no one seems bothered by this reality. aside from concerns about what neighbors might think about how rapidly the pregnancy seems to be progressing, wanda and vision and everyone else around is accepting and supportive of the situation in front of them, regardless of what details they know. and no one doubts or wonders about the twins being the children of both their parents, regardless of how they came to be
and through the particular in-universe POV of the show, the way the sitcom parameters are applied, and the tightly controlled (until it isn’t, of course) narrative, it’s clear that wanda isn’t horny for vision either. they are mutually non-sexual. in a way it is powerful to simply see an adult couple on tv who are so in love when so many “i hate my wife” memes abound and committed, loving relationships aren’t usually compatible with good drama. but taking it further, the lack of sexuality (not in terms of orientation necessarily but in terms of expressed desire) lends itself to a lack of sexual gaze between the characters. there cannot be a “male gaze” (or female gaze for that matter) in wandavision except how it’s implicitly written in by the marvel team (which is likely comprised of individuals who have internalized some male gaze-y tropes or write according to the conventions of the genre, etc). since they lack a sexual dimension which would lend itself to a gendered/hetero gaze, wanda and vision cannot possibly objectify one another (and nor can any other in-universe character).
and what is an adoring, non-heterosexual relationship but queer? or at least queered? that is not to say wandavision is queer representation—at least in 2021 ai and androids are not included as part of the LGBT community. but the show does queer superheroes by creating this relationship, one that i found incredibly moving & found myself extremely invested in. and one that, as a queer person who is attracted to men but wary of being attractive through the male gaze’s distortion, fulfills my idealized m/f relationship.
tl;dr: vision is my ideal man bc he adores wanda but isn’t horny for her :-)
hey anyone wanna hear my overthought thoughts about wanda+vision through like a queer lens? bc i have a wip theory about why im so emo about them (& the answer is bc im gay)
#can u tell i have an english degree?#if someone wants to add more to my points and/or expand on my stuff about the mcu that would b dope! i will continue expanding this#and/or sources about queer lens stuff?? i don’t know a lot about that like theory wise just what ive learned online lmfao#basically pls peer review my interpretations!#wandavision
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holy heck ! thank you sophiw i lov u 🍒
1. Do you ever doubt the existence of others than you?
i dont understand this question?? like sometimes i doubt my own existence and other times i doubt that i exist to certain ppl? ya?
2. On a scale of 1-5, how afraid of the dark are you?
2,, normal amount? like good for sleep but pitch black is scaryy but not to the point i need the escape ?? if that makes sense??
3. The person you would never want to meet?
guy fieri, i dont think i need to know if hes actually real ? like is he real and from this dimension or from flavortown (which he has a very scarily detailed description of)?? thats not something i need to know
4. What is your favorite word?
hmm, probably ‘fam’ obviously
5. If you were a type of tree, what would you be?
a willow tree !!!!!!!!!! i just talked to my mom about this :-0
6. When you looked in the mirror this morning what was the first thing you thought?
ngl but i dont look in the mirror anymore unless its lip syncing along to a song sung by a guy/someone w a deeper voice bc i feel like it suits me better! gotta love coping w dysphoria!
7. What shirt are you wearing?
baseball tee, gay
8. What do you label yourself as?
nb, lesbian, fool
9. Bright room or dark room?
dark room
10. What were you doing at midnight last night?
slepe
11. Favorite age you’ve been so far?
10-11 when i was in 5th grade. i still only had two friends but i was way more extroverted and everything was so carefree and i was very invested in adventure time and art. i think that was the most of a childhood i got? i honestly did not do much as a kid and i wish i had..
12. Who told you they loved you last?
sophiw ! tumblr user almightyportraits ! the loml !
13. Your worst enemy?
x
14. What is your current desktop picture?
one from apple called ‘abstract shapes’ its very orange but also blue which is my fave color pairing atm so its perfect
15. Do you like someone?
tumblr user vahilla
16. The last song you listened to?
megan played ‘marceline’ by willow in her car ! a song i suggested to her a few months ago and it makes me very happy that she likes it especially bc we bonded over adventure time in 6th grade :-)
17. You can press a button that will make any one person explode. Who would you blow up?
mmyy seelfff ??
18. Who would you really like to just punch in the face?
mmmyseyyffelllff ??
19. If anyone could be your slave for a day, who would it be and what would they have to do?
eh whats the point
20. What is your best physical attribute? (showing said attribute is optional)
n o ne ?
21. If you were the opposite sex for one day, what would you look like and what would you do?
what is the opposite of nb,, i feel like if i was opposite of how i present id be a girl, which is a verryyy weird thought for me, pass
22. Do you have a secret talent? If yes, what is it?
no :-/
23. What is one unique thing you’re afraid of?
uh first of all blood, like, ill pass out,, second of all,, literally everything worries me
24. You can only have one kind of sandwich. Every sandwich ingredient known to humankind is at your disposal.
jimmy johns #16, turkey, bacon, lettuce, tomato, NO MAYO
25. You just found $100! How are you going to spend it?
im a very practical person so the least boring answer i can come up w is more art supplies
26. You just got a free plane ticket to anywhere in the world, but you have to leave immediately. Where are you going to go?
denmark
27. An angel appears out of Heaven and offers you a lifetime supply of the alcoholic beverage of your choice. “Be brand-specific” it says. Man! What are you gonna say about that? Even if you don’t drink booze there’s something you can figure out… so what’s it gonna be?
fukcing , acetoNe
28. You discover a beautiful island upon which you may build your own society. You make the rules. What is the first rule you put into place?
i think a FIRST rule would have to be pretty IMPORTANT so probably smt like how ~WE THE PEOPLE~ are all EQUAL would be a pretty good start and pretty UNDENIABLE and STRAIGHT FORWARD especially if it was the FIRST thing in this,, hmm lets call it the CONSTITUTION, in the completely hypothetical society
29. What is your favorite expletive?
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuk cufck ufc kfuck
30. Your house is on fire, holy shit! You have just enough time to run in there and grab ONE inanimate object. Don’t worry, your loved ones and pets have already made it out safely. So what’s the one thing you’re going to save from that blazing inferno?
sunglasses??!!! that shit gotta be bright huh>?? gotta protect my retinas
31. You can erase any horrible experience from your past. What will it be?
i wanna say my first relationship made me a better person but that shit was rreeeaaallyyyy fucking awful and 4 months (+recovery months) that i will never get back and i think ? maybe ?? i wouldve been ok without it ? idk just a thought
32. You got kicked out of the country for being a time-traveling heathen who sleeps with celebrities and has super-powers. But check out this cool shit… you can move to anywhere else in the world!
spain ?!?!? why not + i sorta know the language? thatd b cool
33. The Celestial Gates Of Beyond have opened, much to your surprise because you didn’t think such a thing existed. Death appears. As it turns out, Death is actually a pretty cool entity, and happens to be in a fantastic mood. Death offers to return the friend/family-member/person/etc. of your choice to the living world. Who will you bring back?
zoey my dog :-( i miss her a lot, this month it will have been two years oh my god i miss her so much
34. What was your last dream about?
the last one i remember was a nightmare about someone tryna murder me i was very scared
36. Have you ever been admitted to the hospital?
i think so , when i was two i got really really sick and couldve died ?
37. Have you ever built a snowman?
ahh yes ! we gave hhimm,, fruit snack nipples, please forgive me fathr
38. What is the color of your socks?
grey w blue n orange stripes ( again i lov blue n orange together, my shirt is teal and i have an orange hat on wow)
39. What type of music do you like?
all! i had to train this new guy at work and im sooo awkward but once why started talking about music it was easy for me to talk bc it was smt we both really like !!! i felt like i could actually communicate w feeling a disconnect it was nice ! we talked mostly about rap which was cool and unexpected but i could do it ? i really love music and i love being able to know enough to talk about it ,, isk
40. Do you prefer sunrises or sunsets?
sunrises, ive been pushing myself to wake up unreasonably early to have more time to myself and i get to watch the sunrise most days which is nice
41. What is your favorite milkshake flavor?
chocolate
42. What football team do you support? (I will answer in terms of American football as well as soccer)
whom?
44. What do you want to be when you graduate?
college? god i dont even know… smt w art.. by an illustrator or art teacher or freelance artist or graphic designer ,, i really dont know
45. If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?
one thing ?!!?!? i wish i was neurotypical
46. Are you reliable?
yes? i try hard to be? i hope so ?
47. If you could ask your future self one question, what would it be?
u still a lil bitch ?
48. Do you hold grudges?
nope i try not to, ive had too many toxic petty people in my life that i dont need to be one myself.. now this is grudges w/o reason, but if ive given people several ‘second chances’ and theyre still (thumbs down) then ill avoid them but w/i reason?
49. If you could breed two animals together to defy the laws of nature, what new animal would you create?
DOG HORSES BIG DOGs
50. What is the most unusual conversation you’ve ever had?
mm probably smt w my lab partner from last year. she always sends me weird quotes from a fanfiction shes reading and its weird but i really appreciate that she still talks to me or talks to me at all tbh
51. Are you a good liar?
nooo ?? i try not to lie? mb not tell the full truth but idk , i feel like id feel too guilty
52. How long could you go without talking?
uhh literally days like i already fucking do.. i m taking this as verbally but i dont get texts so like, it would not be hard
53. What has been you worst haircut/style?
before i went to short hair i used to alllwaayyys wear a tight ponytail every single day bc i wasnt girly enough to do anything w it and it was really really gross like thank god i cut it all off
54. Have you ever baked your own cake?
heck yeah
55. Can you do any accents other than your own?
*clears throat*
h-
hewwo?
56. What do you like on your toast?
butter and jam
57. What is the last thing you drew a picture of?
x
58. What would be you dream car?
razor scooter
59. Do you sing in the shower? Or do anything unusual in the shower? Explain.
sometimes im just too physically or emotionally exhausted to stand so ill just,, lay down? ive fallen asleep in the shower before ha
60. Do you believe in aliens?
yup
61. Do you often read your horoscope?
whenever it comes up but i dont ,, seek it out
62. What is your favorite letter of the alphabet?
Q
63. Which is cooler: dinosaurs or dragons?
dragons tf
64. What do you think about babies?
evil, ugly, dont see the appeal. open ur eyes ppl !!!! bbs are n Ot cute !!
65. Freebie! Ask anything interesting you can think of.
x
#long post /#mention of dysphoria /#ask#thenk yoy sophiw#this took 4ever but worth it bc it got me to calm down?? coolc ool cool
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