#and I'm tired of people calling Bruce being written abusive as him being written with “flaws”
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I tried to read Robin & Batman (2021) and I had to stop because I hate Bruce in this so much. Like, wtf is he saying he wants to make Dick a soldier?! He took Dick because he saw himself in him and wanted to give him a better childhood, not to make him a mini-Batman, but to make him a better man than Bruce!
Anyway, here are some panels of Bruce and Dick in their early publication's history!
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Bruce's crying because his boy is crying! And they say the Dark Knight has no emotions!
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Bruce is so extreme in his love for Dick. He is like "If something happens to Dick, I'm going to cry so much, I will die of dehydration. Actually, I will torture myself to death. I will find the most painful way to take my own life. He is the most important thing in my life." Like here, Dick is being like "I'm running away!" and Bruce's reaction is "I would prefer to cut my arms off than lose you." He is so full of love for this boy, he is going to explode.
#batman#bruce wayne#dick grayson#robin#dc comics#my ramblings#me anytime I read a version of Bruce that is a bad parent: i think he should burn#Bruce has flaws as a man BUT there's a different with writing a man with flaws and writing an abusive parent#and I'm tired of people calling Bruce being written abusive as him being written with “flaws”#as someone who was raised by abusive parents abusing children isn't a character flaw it's a disgusting behavior#and making bruce a good parent isn't erasing his flaws good doesn’t mean perfect and everyone as flaws#YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE HIM AWFUL AND ABUSIVE TO GAVE HIM FLAWS#I just cannot hear people diminish abusive behavior as something a character needs to be “flawed”#sorry got pissy because I saw a post saying that we should let Bruce be awful#and there's another one I saw a while ago saying good dad Bruce was boring because he needs flaws (good parents have flaws)#(being a bad parent isn't a flaw it's an abusive of power and a crime it's not a flaw)#I'm very strict about child abuse sorry not sorry
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Are you doing okay? I know I've seen a lot of people throwing flack your way for calling out the fandoms hypocrisy in woobyfying Jason. Like I get it, Jason IS trying to be a better person. But he instigated that fight. And to literally just ignore the fact that he's killed upwards of 80 people and that was at the beginning of RHATO. To just give him a free pass because 'hes hot and sad uwu' just doesn't sit right with me.
I adore Jason, he truly is my favorite of the Bat Family because he is such a powerful and emotional character. But do not get it twisted. Jason is a depraved killer who tortured someone to death by injecting them with bleach. I love him, but he's a piece of shit. He's that fat adorable cat you love to give pets to but if you don't give him what he wants he'll chew all your wires, pee on your bed and be a general menace.
I'm excited for Urban Legends because Jason is finally being held responsible for his actions and there's no easy way out. And considering the fact Jason is a wanted criminal in Gotham. What would you do if you found out your son is a prolific mass murderer?
But please take care of yourself.
Yea I’m fine! Just mildly annoyed.
Like I certainly do like Jason but he’s not exactly my favorite character since he’s just been so inconsistently written and poorly written since he became the Red Hood. And I’m very tired of people misinterpreting and misusing the few REALLY good Jason stories we do have. I honestly don’t know where people got this idea that Jason is an innocent angel being bullied by his mean abusive father The Batman, but like nothing in canon supports it!!! And you’re missing out on a lot of interesting discussions and analysis by looking at it that way.
I’m really loved UL so far and how it shows not only Jason’s violence, but also how deep down he has no clue what’s he’s doing and just wants to be understood and loved. Misunderstanding has always been the tragedy that truly kept Jason and Bruce apart and I think this story really gets that.
I also think when it comes to the discussion of “should we just kill the bad guys” Jason is actually the best example against Jason’s argument!!! He was someone who did a whole bunch of terrible shit, but worked to change because he was shown some compassion and given a second chance. There is so much actual discussion to be had about Bruce and Jason’s relationship that just gets drowned out by ppl yelling about Bruce being a terrible father because he was a lil violent with his mass murder son. 
I’m also really sick of people erasing the trauma and grief that Bruce went through after Jason’s death and how deeply it impacted him. I’m tired of people demanding Bruce handle everything perfectly with Jason or else he’s an abusive parent. Bruce is a flawed human and that certainly is high lighted in his relationship with Jason, but he’s not abusive or evil. He was stuck in an impossible situation when it came to Red Hood and he did the best he could, i with people would understand that.
Jason hurt a lot of people but Bruce still gave him a second chance anyway. Jason routinely broke Bruce’s two sacred rules and Bruce still loves him anyway. Bruce is a good father and I’m just tired of people saying he’s not.
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As someone who is a leftist, who was raised by leftists, who calls themselves a "revolutionary", who is loud about when stuffs aren't fucking okay and people rights aren't respected, I cannot explain how much I dislike the panels of Oliver Queen calling his colleagues "nazis" or "fascists" when they don't agree on something. Like, it doesn't make me want to read his comics, because he sounds like a self-righteous whining bitch, not an actual activist that knows what he is talking about. Your colleague refusing to listen to you doesn't make him a fascist, rich white man. And I don't think anyone would want to have a discussion with someone who insults them of being Nazi when they aren't happy.
Nazi and fascist are important words with meanings, historical and scientific (history and sociology are sciences) meanings. The more you use them without respecting their meaning, the less they mean shit. And like, I have seen enough to realize USAmericans barely know the meaning of Nazi, which is not simply being a white-supremacist or a fascist. Nazism is the ideology that there's an aryan race, which fits mostly GERMAN traits, superior to everyone else, with a ton of eugenics. It isn't just antisemitism, it isn't just white-supremacy, the Nazis did not like most of white people, they destroyed historical and cultural objects from european cultures for not being "aryan". My grandparents' trauma from the occupation shows that quite well. So, Oliver Queen calling Flash "a nazi" because he disagree with how to handle a situation isn't funny or cool, it's tiring and wrong. No, your red-haired, probably doesn't know a word of german, colleague isn't a Nazi. And he isn't a neo-nazi ever, which are more open to white people without tie to German culture but still use the symbolism, because he is still not doing Nazi shit.
Again, these terms aren't insults, they have meanings. Marine Le Pen, a French politician, is a Nazi because her party was created by her father and his Nazi and SS friends, and she sees Hitler as family. I am not a Nazi for wearing all black (yes, this did happened), supporting Palestine (also happened), or telling people that not voting isn't helping at all (just last week).
I would have no issues with Oliver criticizing his colleagues being controlling and abusing their power or authority, I would love that, I'm big on criticizing abuse of power and authority, but he needs to be written doing that, not just calling them "nazi" and "fascist". That's not what they are doing. And also, if you think one of your colleagues is a fascist or a nazi and the JL is letting them in control, WTF ARE YOU STILL WORKING WITH THEM??? (That's my point that he's using these terms like insults)
I can hear y'all: "You're just mad he called Batman a fascist, because you love Batman!" And like, there's a lot to talk about on Bruce's and Batman’s morality, but at the end of the day, DC is an usamerican company. Of course fascist points are going to be encouraged, this is the USA we are talking about. They cannot write a story without it, it's taught to them since birth from the imperialism and nationalism combo. And also, a good written Batman isn't a fascist, he is literally against the death penalty or even letting criminals die, which is supported HEAVILY by fascism. Like, call him out for thinking he is always right, go for it, but that's not fascism.
#my ramblings#dc comics#not tagging characters because I don't want to deal with their fans#but like of course your usamericans like Oliver you don't know what real leftism is#If someone thinks they are right and instead of argumenting your points#you just call them fascist or nazi they aren’t going to listen to you#and him whining about Batman not being nicer to him after he “sacrificed” himself by working with Waller? fucking disgusting#dude you got one of your colleagues' CHILD TORTURED I wouldn't be nice either shitty ass sacrifice#and you aren't supposed to expect a reward for “sacrificing” yourself if you think this is for the best? like wtf?#Do you expect people to love you for being a hero or are you doing this because it needs to be done?#and people think this makes him cool and a leftist?#leftist my ass#I fell like if you put me in a room with Oliver Queen we would throw hands so fast#and he would call me a nazi because that's what he does
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