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fictionfixations · 12 days ago
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OH MY GOD GUYS I GOT THE ANAKT GARDEN SET AHHHHHHHHHH
warning for major alnst spoilers ofc
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I KEEP TAKING PHOTOS THE WRONG WAY AROUND 😭😭😭😭
okay im gonna summarize information
you get these id cards the main peeps of them their birthday blood type number signature fingerprint who their guardian is (i cant tell the difference between them on the card it looks the same to me but idk maybe its alien language)
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and it also says what dorm theyre from
mizi till ivan and sua are in buru flower rooms although different ones
(all in buru flower room. sua is in x, till is in c, mizi is a, ivan is d)
meanwhile luka and hyuna are in different rooms which makes me believe its by like year(s) and based on when they graduate from anakt garden or something like that? i forget
according to an interview (of sua and ivan) they're from the 50th anakt garden class
hyuna is chala flower room a, and shes also the only one without a signature
interestingly enough luka is the only one without a letter after the room which i think is because of how im pretty sure hes like a clone or something? like like made and there were many others of 'him' that were made until they found the perfect him to use? im like 70% sure his guardian has also implied it or something in one of the interviews? i think it mightve been regarding either the top three or before luka vs till
i use a translator app and go through it and then (usually) mainly share ones about ivan (as hes my favorite) and include other interesting stuff that doesnt have to relate to him
also there will be some things i just dont mention
well ive only done it once and for like the art book lmfao but yEAH
i keep forgetting which page i read it from so this time im gonna write this post while looking through it to make it easier for me haha
skimming through it though i do see some stuff i think they've posted on the twitter and patreon before though i DO remember there was this one that was blurry and i think i saw it in full here
be warned translations may not always be 100% accurate cause for some reason i take a CLEAR photo of the text and then i take another but zoomed in to more specific parts of the text and it changes the translation so im just sat here like what why does having more context make it worse sob
(future me here what do you mean i can only translate 50 images a day 😭 maybe its my bad for taking so many pictures of the same part but sometimes it translates differently when i zoom into specific parts that make more sense so on parts im confused on i do that a lot)
also in the previous post i tried rephrasing it a lot but at this point its really not gonna work with this
Mizi (1) Her guardian sent a 'lullaby tape' and 'deep sea mood lamp' to help her sleep. She called it 'Shine' or something? I can't be 100% sure but she whined to a teacher about missing it and thus that was sent over.
Mizi/Sua (2) Sua helps Mizi study, and sometimes reads to her, and everytime she does it, "I feel she creates an unknown world for me."
Sua/Mizi (1) Sua was shy and didn't laugh much when entering Anakt Garden, but after meeting Mizi, she laughed a lot.
Sua (2) Children in the Anakt Garden have become more interested in the opposite sex. There are rumors among the children that there is "a tree that can succeed if you confess". Sua seems to be popular with boys as she often goes under the tree.
Sua & Ivan (3) Sua was chosen as an Outstanding Child alongside Ivan in Anakt Garden, an honorable title given to a child who sets an example for others every year. The two will be interviewed and included in ALIEN STAGE MAGAZINE VOL.2.
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Sua (4) Recently, Sua's been practicing hard enough to stop crying(?). When asked why, Sua said, "I have to practice more because it's my dream to be on stage with Mizi."
😭i cant tell if its a mistranslation or if its a 'i know the truth about alnst so i want to practice not crying while on stage with her' or something
Till & Ivan (1) Today, Till fought with a new kid named Ivan. He is an aggressive child, so he needs regular education at home. Fortunately, Ivan has generously forgiven him, but I will do my best to prevent this from happening next time.
Till & Ivan (2) Till's theoretical grades have improved a lot! Practical tests are always perfect, but theories have always been weak. In particular, his grades in Religion and Music, which were his most vulnerable, have risen markedly. Is it because some kid has provoked Till recently? He's very competitive, so when he has an opponent he wants to win, he burns!
It's not stated but y'know I'd think it'd be Ivan 💀.
Ivan (1) Ivan is significantly less talkative than other children. He may have a slower language development than other children because he's adapting to a sudden change in environment.
Ivan (2) For an art class on the theme of "The Most Memorable Moment of Life", Ivan painted a sky full of shooting stars on the paper. Each star was drawn carefully, and his concentration was so focused it was like he was being sucked into the paper.
For that I'll refer to the scene back in Round 3 and my post on the artbook where it explained more on Ivan's thoughts and how the shooting stars meant to him it was
(10) in the slums, when being held over like the edge due to the anger of a dealer, he faced the fear of death at such a young age that it stuck with him, that death was always near him. the shooting stars that then appeared stayed with him unconsciously (the translation it gives me is “the ecstasy faced with death took place intensely in Ivan’s deep unconsciousness.”)
Ivan (3) He often observes his facial expressions in the pond before going to school in the morning. I feel the one translated on the patreon (free) has better translations but it only shows a few not all and I remember reading this one as one of the ones included.
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Ivan (4) Although Ivan is mature for his age, he is the most childlike when he is with Till. (they fight a lot)
Hyuna (1) Hyuna is a child with gentle charisma. She has a high sense of responsibility, so she takes the lead as class president and takes the initiative in all activities. She does not hesitate to do good deeds, such as actively approaching children who do not fit in well with the Anakt Garden activities, and she is a role model for all children.
Hyuna (2) Hyuna, who loves singing, always sings in front of the children during compulsory playtime. Yesterday, she stood at the base of a tree and sang "Anakt's Lullaby" in an impromptu arrangement, and Hyuna's changed lullaby was popular at "Anakt Garden" for a while.
I've heard people theorize that Wiege is that lullaby.
Hyuna & Luka (3) Luka was hiding in a tree and looking at Hyuna, as if he wanted to play hide and seek with her. Hyuna saw Luka and invited him to play with her.
I usually format it based on whose referred to first but I actually cut off a part of it and its about how Hyuna is popular and then it mentions Luka and then I have no idea what's being said I'm using two different translator apps and they both don't make sense. Perhaps the idea is something like, 'the lonely child Luka, who also excels at Anakt Garden, even memorized her name.'
The translations it gives me call him an only kid, the best in Anakt Garden, and then continues with ", Is Hyuna" or "memorized her name" so above is my best guess tbh 😭 Reasoning? Since idk what they meant by only kid, since it mentioned in the beginning how Hyuna was popular, then if I compare then he was probably lonely (there is also art of him by a tree alone staring at Hyuna who is surrounded by many others), he was also good at his studies and so was Hyuna, and I added even to emphasize that ah Luka didn't really interact with people but Hyuna ended up catching his attention (thus he was staring at her).
Luka (1) Luka always practices until late at night. If there's even a singular thing he can't solve he immediately asks the teacher a question.
Luka (2) Luka won first place in the Anakt Garden singing contest! The children were moved to tears when they heard Luka's crying. The crying sound is clear and sweet, and moves the hearts of those who listen to it. There is a jinx that if you win first place in the Anakt Garden singing contest, you will win Alien Stage, and our teachers are expecting that Luka will win Alien Stage. It is so exciting to imagine Luka growing up day by day.
if I recall Hyuna was second
ooh thats scary the art. dude i didnt even realize there was someone behind him.. its luka whose holding up like a paper and theres two large hands on his shoulders and theres a person in black behind him but theyre so big you cant even see them just their arms and torso wtf 😭
Luka (3)
Luka complained of persistent headaches and hyperventilation during the night.
Physical examination results show abnormal blood flow and lack of oxygen in the body. There is a high possibility of congenital heart disease.
Luka's voice change begins. Intensive care is required to prevent damage to his crying(?) voice. Tea and nutritional supplements that are good for voice will be included in his diet.
one translation is 'crying voice' and the other just translates voice as crying
😭😭😭😭😭
also i cant be 100% sure the translation is right calling it congenital heart disease idk korean and the apps can be inaccurate so take it with a grain of salt
Luka (4) The end-of-month evaluation grades have dropped by 10 points compared to the previous month. Although it is a small drop, in order to prevent this, we plan to select excellent teachers from the Anakt Garden and provide intensive management. We also request periodic discipline at home to prevent Luka from being distracted.
i kind of hate luka but dude this is really making me feel bad for him holy shit 😭 wtf
now its i think graduating from anakt garden and writing messages to people um its a lot of text so idk how im gonna tackle this
MIZI
(two attempts at writing 'Mizi' are crossed out) Hello Mizi, (crossed out) Hello Mizi! You sing really well! If there is an angel, wouldn't it be right here? (crossed out)
I prepared a song for you (crossed out)
Thank you for giving me a recorder when I was little.
It's my only treasure (crossed out)
It's really sad that you're already graduating from Anakt Garden.
Actually, we could have become friends at any time, but I just didn't have time. (crossed out)
How are you. Hi. -Till- ---
What kind of place is the ocean?! I want to go play later too~~! ー????? IDK WHO THIS IS google registers it as jp characters and i think thats wrong so..ー
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My dream, to Mizi Mizi the jellyfish girl (??) The day we were lying in the Anakt Garden meadow and looking at the stars together You became my dream. Is that why? The time I spent with you felt so precious to me. I have a lot of things I want to say. I feel complicated. (crossed out) I don't know what kind of world will unfold if I leave Anakt Garden, but I hope you will always live as green and free as the sea of summer. I believe this is Sua as there's a part mentioned earlier where Sua and Mizi liked watching the stars together and would sometimes fall asleep there instead of going back to their dorms (i did not mention this earlier thats my bad)
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Mizi! It seems like you are a child who really loves singing. I am glad I was able to enter Anakt Garden with you and listen to your songs! I hope you will be successful after you graduate! -????-
the characters of the name are not even registered google keeps thinking its the letter m
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You're so cute because you're quirky and lively! -?????-
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Thank you for always greeting me brightly every morning. Thanks to your bright energy, Anakt Garden life (?) I think it was fun. Good luck for the preliminary round, and see you on stage. -Ivan-
(at good luck he said 'cheer up' or '힘내' which has like a lot of meaning to it and can be like 'hang in there' and is something Till taught him to do and I think he also said it to Till in an interview I think before their round happened, i just used good luck cause its easier to understand and cheer up in english doesnt have as much impact without that context)
yeah here and there was also the comic by what i meant him like learning it from till
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.....i have to do this three more times........... hahahahaha hang in there me ....today i learned if you hold the button that takes a picture it will suddenly take multiple pictures of the exact same thing. 💀
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♥️ SUA ♥️ MIZI (there are multiple hearts drawn over the page and MIZI is written next to SUA with a heart)
(mizi says a lot and as its handwriting its hard for the translation apps to decipher it from the image so bare with me for any errors)
Hello Sua! How are you? Did you know I would say that?? I can't believe you're already graduating, from Anakt Garden. Now that I'm asked to write something like this, I don't know what to write… If I had known this would happen, I would have taken the writing class harder! Then I could tell you everything I wanted to say!! Craft (this is scribbled out) Well I'll put all my memories in this letter ♥️ A moment I was thankful for Sua ♥️
Thank you for secretly eating cherry tomatoes for me when I was a kid and hated vegetables. Thanks for taking my prank well!
Now that I think about it, I think I played a lot. Thank you for helping me with my homework every day. Thank you for always listening to my worries Thank you for handing me a handkerchief when I was crying Thank you for silently comforting me when I failed my test
Thank you for always singing with me Thank you for appearing in my life I'll stop talking here, because we're always together! My dream. Sua, I love you!! -Mizi who loves you so so much-
GUYS IM GONNA CRY
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I actually still like you. Even though you rejected me, can you think about it one more time? -???? no idea who this is-
dude can you read the room her girlfriend literally took over more than half the page 😭😭😭😭
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I don't usually say this, but your voice is nice. I hope you do well in Alien Stage. -Till-
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As an Oustanding Child, alongside you, I'm glad I was able to put my name on the list. I'm sorry we didn't talk much. You've always been an excellent kid, even (maybe 'when you're at') at Alien Stage(?? I can't tell) You'll get a good result. -Ivan-
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IVAN
Hi! Ivan! I'm Mizi! You're handsome like a prince, you sing well, you study well… Why are you so perfect?! And Sua too… Are there only perfect kids around me!? By the way, I saw your stage costumes were all black a while ago, but I think you look better in white than black! How about wearing white on stage? I'm looking forward to a great performance! -Mizi-
NOT HIM DYING IN WHITE THOUGH. you know what. i bet. i bet he thought huh maybe till will think i look good in white. and then he wore white. AND THEN HE DIED
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I don't know what to write because I don't remember talking. Take care. Bye. -Sua-
DAMN. girl you know on his stats in the art book he sees you as like a sister right 😭😭 (who am i kidding ive seen your stats too)
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By the way, when is your birthday? I've never seen you have a birthday party. -just expect me not to include names of anyone not from main cast because I won't be able to tell if it's a mistranslation-
I just envied you so much. That's why I wanted to get close to you. -???-
Actually, I liked you, but we never talked to each other. Take care, goodbye -???-
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Were you the one who stole the pencil back then? -Till-
😭😭😭 i think theres a note somewhere i dont think i read it in this one but in a previous alnst post about ivan stealing tills things and then returning them because he wanted praise or something
i cant recall if the pencil thing is related to him or if it mightve been related to mizi since sometimes the translation app gets pronouns wrong but i think there was a mention of a stolen pencil and it being returned to someone in here i just dont remember what page. dammit.
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You are so perfect that it's hard to approach you.
-???-
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TILL
Hi! Till! You're so good at singing and composing The lyrics and composition are so (she crossed out a word that looks similar to something she then says but I can't tell what it is) I'm so, so jealous of you for doing so well!! I often think of the song you sang at the Anakt Garden Song Contest Come to think of it, you got your ears pierced not too long ago, it looks really good on you! The guitar looked unique on the stage Are you taking it with you? For this performance I'm really looking forward to seeing your performance~!! Way to go! -Mizi-
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When we were young, we fought a lot without thinking, but now that I'm older, I think I can be a better friend than you think. It seems like separation comes too quickly. I knew it wasn't useful, but I felt a little more intense with you. (crossed out) I hope you remember me. -Ivan-
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I still remember you getting dizzy and falling over while headbanging at the Anakt Garden singing contest. It was really funny… -???-
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I'm sure you're talented
-Acorn-
WAIT ACORN??
wait you can see part of the graduation messages on the patreon OH YEAH that was where i read the part of sua's and there was just this whole part blurred out (mizi to sua)
you know what im gonna ignore messages from anyone not of the main cast at this point idk why i did it for so long 😭
wait shit i forgot what i havent translated now 😭
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Take care. See you on stage. -Sua-
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IM DONE
OKAY
NO MORE
😭
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kitsquared · 8 months ago
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Watching round 6 again
Can you believe Sua and Ivan are dead
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shakingparadigm · 11 months ago
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Till seems to have interactions with both Hyuna and Luka, possibly the only character to be seen interacting with the season 49 contestants outside of competition context.
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Whenever I think about Till interacting with the "big kids", I think about the canon fact (Anakt Kit book) that Till is a creative genius who far surpassed other kids his age, even said to be the most talented in his year. In fact, he was considered so gifted that the Anakt Garden officials contemplated the idea of letting Till skip grades.
It's interesting to think about the possibility of Till being moved up a level, maybe even enough to reach Hyuna and Luka in the s49 batch. I feel like he would have been given so many opportunities if he wasn't such a problem child.
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balljointed-bunny · 2 months ago
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ayakashiz · 1 year ago
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Their escape has definitely been on my mind also. It's one of the things I was hoping they'd go more into in R6 (as in the logistics and consequences, both in terms of punishment in case of being found out, and on Ivan and Till's relationship), but both R3 and R6 focused more on the emotional impact of it (on Ivan's perspective), and I would say that's intentional. Like I pointed out, Vivinos/Qmeng have been great at foreshadowing and holding back information until the right time, which I love as much as it makes me wanna crawl up the walls. :') While not 'genius' exactly, both Ivan and Sua have been labeled smart when they were advertised to be bought as children (could be a reason why he was auctioned at a high price in the first place). In the Anakt Garden kit they both received an award for being the top students/"excellent children", and quite honestly they've both always given me the vibe that they know more than they seem/have gone through some things that the other children haven't (emphasized in the new comic "Confession").
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(The "smart" is really hard to read. Someone out there had a clearer image but I lost it. Rip.)
Also as I mentioned with the beast incident (which Ivan is implied to have set up), Ivan seems to know how to sneak into restricted areas and can somehow bond with that alien creature that is hostile to other humans (and is possibly some kind of guard dog in the first place). The fact that he was so well liked and trusted by his teachers as a good, obedient child might have also given him more leeway than others.
So considering all that and the (yet unexplained) fact that Ivan is able to unlock isolation cell doors and their restraints, him managing to escape with Till on his own doesn't seem all that surprising to me.
All in all there are way too many unanswered things about Ivan (and Sua) and I firmly believe if they haven't been answered yet it means they'll be relevant plot points for later. Till's perspective also -since we don't see him question how Ivan can do all these things, because we were shown very little of what happened. He most definitely seemed to struggle with his choice to return, though. He appeared rather guilty/conflicted as he let go of Ivan's hand.
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There are many theories around about Ivan having been subjected to experiments too before being enrolled in Anakt Garden, or some tracking device being implanted in him and that's why they let him go without a collar (not only a trust/status thing since Luka was also branded as an excelling student in all subjects, was way more popular than Ivan, and has the richest, most involved owner as shown in the booklet; and still had to wear a collar before the Hyun Woo incident.)
Although I have almost zero hopes of Ivan being alive (because Vivinos isn't known to shy away from tragedy), the sheer amount of mystery surrounding him and his seeming "biological strangeness" gives me a teeny tiny speck of hope that maybe he could have survived... Or at least that we'll get to see more of him and Sua in the form of flashbacks.
Alien Stage R6 Analysis
VERY LONG compilation of my interpretations, impressions and unanswered questions about Round 6 of Alien Stage. I just wanted to write this to put all my thoughts in one place so I can finally rest (in pieces). TW for mentions of suic*de/suic*dal ideation.
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The most debated is no doubt the kiss/choking scene and Ivan’s motivation for doing so in the first place. 
I think from the very beginning, even before R3, Ivan was planning to go out with a bang. That’s the immediate impression I got from the comic where he mocks/criticizes Sua for planning to “selfishly” die for Mizi and feel good being the “heroine” rather than having to deal with the trauma of being the one left behind. 
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(I'm too lazy to edit the whole translation as of now, but might do so when I have more time.)
Ivan tells her how he’s “relieved that he’s not the only who’s that twisted” = He’s comparing himself to Sua. He thinks they’re both ‘twisted’ for planning to do the same thing, but from Ivan’s perspective, he at least isn’t fooling himself into thinking his motives are altruistic. He tasted the feeling of being ‘abandoned’, and he knows he doesn’t want to experience it twice. 
He also probably thought that his death wouldn’t be as impactful on Till as Sua’s death on Mizi, and therefore his own selfishness is more justified in his mind. This most likely plays a role in how cold and biting his words are towards Sua –he’s jealous of that difference between them.
I hadn’t noticed this detail the first time I watched the video: Not only did Till look absolutely miserable and defeated from the get go, but he completely gave up and stopped singing at some point. If you look at the video, we can hear the audio that was supposed to be sung, but Till is quiet and still, and THIS is the moment Ivan chooses to act.
Although they do not show the votes at that particular moment, stopping mid song would have definitely taken a hit to Till’s score as it’s basically forfeiting –a huge contrast to his previous match where he didn’t even let his opponent utter a single line.
In response, Ivan doesn’t just walk towards him but throws his microphone to the ground, explicitly forfeiting as well in order to then pull a drastic move like it was foreshadowed in his interview.
The kiss itself imo was the less calculated/arguably unplanned part. He could have just choked Till from the start and it would have gotten him the same if not better results (since it was the act of violence against another contestant that ultimately lowered his score and got the counter to stop). 
That kiss was authentic and for himself entirely, both as a last desperate attempt at conveying his feelings and a selfish way of leaving a strong impression on Till that he wouldn’t be able to forget (a hypocritical move going back to how he criticized Sua). In that sense, I don’t think Ivan was seriously trying to take Till down with him –although that’s up to interpretation. As I see it, that would contradict his actions up until that point.
Till was VERY CLEARLY suic*dal (once again, he gave up singing), and after the initial shock of Ivan squeezing his neck, this fiery, rebellious man who is KNOWN to fight tooth and nail, simply closed his eyes and relaxed his body, waiting for Ivan to end him without fighting at all. 
The thing is, no matter how suic*dal one may be, the fighting response when being actually suffocated is automatic and completely involuntary. People mention there not being marks on Till’s neck but I think the most telling sign is him not going red, not squirming, not struggling or holding onto Ivan’s wrists (again, expected involuntary responses), his eyes not watering or having blurry vision while we see Ivan from his POV, not opening his mouth even a little to gasp for air and not coughing or gasping either when he was finally released.
Ivan definitely had him in a strong grip, might have even made him a bit lightheaded, but the reason why Till could look so relaxed in the first place is because he had given up and was waiting for Ivan to go ahead. If his closed eyes and limp posture were due to the choking itself, he would have fallen or stumbled when being let go, but we see that his eyes open as soon as he feels Ivan’s hands slipping away and he looks shocked instead.
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So then what was Ivan’s motivation, if not to kill him? Yes, there’s the already discussed plan to get himself disqualified. But Ivan glances at the screen only a few seconds after he starts the choking, confirming that the voting had in fact stopped with Till having the higher score. He then goes for one last ‘goodbye’ kiss before continuing to choke him, holding his grip even as he starts getting shot.
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We see a closeup of him, his eyes and hands trembling, looking more frustrated/emotional than in Till’s first POV where he looks rather stoic. It makes me think that the reason he refused to let go was simply because he wanted Till to look at him. 
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They strongly imply throughout the whole video that being annoying or mean or violent was the only way Ivan learnt how to make Till focus his full attention on him, but now even as he’s threatening his life, even as he himself is dying, even after that kiss, Till wouldn’t look. 
It took him getting fatally wounded and realizing there was no turning back to reach a state of acceptance. His bittersweet expression here reminds me A LOT of his smile after Till runs back during the meteor scene, although this one seems a lot more tender. He seems to accept the fact that Till will never love him back, but Ivan cannot stop loving him anyways and he at least got to put his feelings out there. 
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(The parallels here are driving me insane. The way there is light in his eyes in both instances as he looks at Till even while 'losing him' in a way. The struggle between wanting to posses him yet realizing his free spirit/strong will is part of what he loves about him. That last genuine gaze from a character who spent his whole life putting on a mask. Yes I am very normal about this.)
Until then, Ivan’s more tender/vulnerable side is only shown while Till is unconscious or looking away.
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(That soft, loving nuzzle to Till's face has me in SHAMBLES.)
But ironically, it’s only when he releases him and shows him this vulnerability without a mask that Till really looks at him for the first time. I’d go as far as to say that it was this moment, and not the kiss, that finally made Till understand Ivan’s feelings. And in turn Ivan gets that little shot of euphoria as he falls to the ground.
Going back to the survivor’s guilt… I can only imagine it’ll go completely downhill for Till from now on. Not only does he already think Mizi might be dead and is angry at himself that he couldn’t save her (as seen in the shot where he punches his own picture), but now he has most likely realized that Ivan intentionally fumbled their match for his sake –which would lead to the realization that he was the reason why Ivan chose to run back to Anakt Garden after him in the first place, and that choice ultimately lead to his death. 
Even though we see them fighting a lot as children through the videos and comics, it’s also implied that they were always together and they shared some quiet moments –the “Mizi didn’t play with you, I played with you” art, all that art of the main 4 playing together, those bright smiles as they ran away together during the meteor shower scene and Till looking so guilty when he let go of his hand. 
There are a few cute doodles of them for those who are on Patreon, and some more lore in the Anakt Garden kit –so they were at the very least friends in their own way (as best as 2 very traumatized and abused children could), constantly fighting and making up. Which God… it shows that despite appearances Till must have actually had the patience of a saint when they were little lmao.
But what I’m trying to say is that despite what Ivan may have thought, his death will most definitely have an impact on Till and the narrative going forward, and I’m excited to find out how that reflects in the final round (if the resistance doesn’t manage to get back up in time to disrupt it). 
Despite how much I adored (and SUFFERED WITH) this round, I still have MANY questions that were left unanswered, both about Ivan and Till, and the lore in general, and I wonder if there’ll be time to answer them all, as I can imagine the next MV will be focused on Luka’s perspective, the only one we haven’t been presented with.
One of the most pressing questions being: What’s the relationship between Ivan and that alien dog? Did he tame it? It is implied that it was Ivan who somehow led Till and Mizi to it in the first place in that one scene, and if so I wonder what his motivation was? Normally jealousy would be the first thing to come to mind but Ivan wasn’t interested in Till until AFTER he saw him stand up to the beast to protect Mizi, so it couldn’t have been that. 
This is something that was also teased on Patreon and I was looking forward to the explanation on the MV, but it never came, and now Ivan is dead, so the next video will most likely not be too concerned with his backstory any longer. (Which, also, I was really curious about his life in the slums before being captured, auctioned and brought to Anakt, as that would have played a huge role in his twisted personality/dark tendencies –once again teased on Patreon very briefly, but not explained beyond that frame of him looking famished.)
The second is, how is Ivan able to open Till’s collar/muzzle so easily? This is a question I’ve been having since R3, but chalked it up to Ivan being sneaky and figuring out some kind of code to the cell door and that somehow automatically deactivating the locks on the restraints… or something. But with how many times he does it in R6 with just a touch it’s very clear that that isn’t the case and also imo they’re trying to point this out as a significant detail. 
It may turn out that I’m just looking too much into it, but I find it really curious and interesting. Not only is he the only child without a collar (Mizi and Sua still had them despite being just as well behaved as him), but he seems to be the only one able to take them off –or at least Till’s. I’m pretty sure the children wouldn’t normally be able to remove them by themselves as it seems to be a control mechanism. So how can Ivan? This might explain a lot about how they were able to escape, and also add a layer of tragedy knowing that Ivan could have chosen to escape by himself at any point, but refused to leave Till behind.
Last but not least there’s all the human experimentation Till was subjected to, which was the main topic of the teaser and we see the same images show up in the very beginning of the MV. They help emphasize Till’s suffering and distressed state of mind, but then they’re never expanded on or mentioned at all for the rest of the video. That’s a huge piece of lore that I also hope isn’t forgotten.
I mean, I really doubt it will. So far VIVINOS & co. have been incredible with their ability to hold back information and release it at the moment where it’s the most impactful, which is refreshing to see. So I trust we’ll get some answers eventually. 
Really curious to know why they would experiment on an ALNST contestant in the first place, especially one that is undoubtedly talented and described as a musical genius (aka. has good odds of doing well on stage and earning the segyein revenue). A very plausible theory might just be that he was just getting constantly drugged to make him less of a threat/more submissive –like we see on the karaoke room scene. But it might as well be something bigger.
As for my expectations for the next round… I’m still just trying to process this one, as you can see by the sheer amount of text. There are many things left to address, and the Hyuna/Luka confrontation has been strongly teased. I wonder also, if the round goes on without interruption, what would Luka’s strategy against Till be? Would he go for provocation again, trying to imitate Mizi/hint to his recent trauma with Ivan? It probably won’t be that simple.
I mean, VIVINOS has been known for subverting our expectations with each round:
The ominous/callous framing that was given to Ivan by the end of Black Sorrow and the art that followed, making us suspicious of his intentions, only to have him die for love. The lifeless/doll-like framing given to Luka, vulnerable and cornered by flashing lights, only to have him be the cruelest/most calculating one (that we know so far). The rebellious, rowdy, willing to do anything to survive framing given to Till, only to have his fighting spirit completely break and willingly waiting to die by Ivan’s hands. The naive, complacent and passive image given to Mizi, only to have her snap, beat the shit out of Luka and join the rebellion –and with how things are going (and her being the protagonist) I wouldn’t be surprised if she, and not Hyuna (the one who was framed as the most strong and reliable, giving us a false sense of security going into R6), is who will have to try and rescue Till (and Luka???).
There are still a ton of things that keep me awake at night about R6 –my favorite character dying aside. I could talk about it forever, but I’ll leave it here. 
Feel free to share your theories, delusions, interpretations or any detail I might have missed with me. God knows we need group therapy after this as the cute chibi keychains can only heal us so far. Thanks for reading my rambles if you made it this far. :’)
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shakingparadigm · 1 year ago
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It's funny how Ivan was canonically popular in the Anakt Garden, having many friends, suitors, and people who looked up to him. I wonder what his peers thought whenever Ivan pulled his weird shit everytime Till was in his vicinity. The Anakt Kit states that Ivan is very mature for his age yet seems to turn childish when he's around Till, often bickering and pulling his hair, stealing his attention like a little kid. Back then I thought Ivan would be the type to hide his feelings (I mean, he's still kind of hiding his true feelings) from other people, but he seems openly smitten with Till. Imagine the mature and responsible valedictorian of your class immediately converting into a freakishly lovesick little shit at the sight of the weird troublesome art kid.
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shakingparadigm · 9 months ago
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It's actually hilarious because. in some of the sketches for anakt garden kit till literally has a normal fucking guitar. they couldn't have given him a normal guitar??? it's his big debut as an alien stage contestant and they decide to give the impulsive unpredictable aggressive alien-hater an alien guitar. absolutely fucking galaxy brained move there guys
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fictionfixations · 3 months ago
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GUESS WHAT JUST ARRIVED YIPPEE
Major Spoilers for Round 6 of ALNST
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i cant read korean but this is fine
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literally looks like i just took a screenshot from the video LMFAO no its from the art book
gonna comb through just for ivan i love him so much 😭
LOOK AT HIMMMMM
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HES SO HES SO
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GODDAMN??
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NAHHH THATS CRUEL MAN THAT LOOKS SO MUCH MORE BRUTAL OH SHIT (i say when they have so many pages detailing the actual kiss and after) BUT LOOK TILL WATCHED HIM DIE, SAW HIM GET THE INJURY, HIS BLOOD SPLATTERED ON HIM, IVAN LOOKS IN SHOCK IVAN?????
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look at himmmm
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what cover is this? i dont remember seeing this before
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yippee
anyway now im only waiting on like the anakt garden kit
..which i wont understand either but still
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shakingparadigm · 11 months ago
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Hiiii!!! I’m relatively new to ALNST (as in I watched it all in one go in one night and cried) and I was wondering if you have any opinions or information about this,
What do you think about Till and Sua’s relationship? Do you think they’d share anything in common? Do you think they’d like each other? I’d like to think there’s at least one thing they share in common that’s led to be on good terms.
Sorry this is a bit long, thank you!
First of all, thank you anon. I've had thoughts on this for a while! Thanks for giving me a chance to talk about it!
Till and Sua don't often interact in canon, so it's pretty easy to assume that Sua would hate Till's guts because of his crush on Mizi (especially since that art of Mizi playing with Till includes Sua looking jealous on the side, sulking in the next page).
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But something to note about the characters in ALNST is that they're actually quite respectful of each other despite the crush conflict (further seen by Ivan and Mizi being very friendly despite Ivan knowing Till loves Mizi). Everyone in the garden knew Till had a crush on Mizi, the goodbye notes state that it was very obvious.
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Yet despite that one instance of Sua pouting at Mizi and Till together, Sua is never shown to dislike Till. In fact, she seems to be more conflicted with Ivan instead. In the few official arts we have of them together, they seem pretty neutral.
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(Sua's collar is green, showing she's comfortable/doesn't mind Till. Till's collar is orange most likely because he's a little nervous/awkward.)
In the official Anakt Kit goodbye letters, Till and Sua write messages to each other. They're short and seem more of a polite gesture than an actual goodbye between friends, but nothenless it shows that they're pretty amicable. Till writes that Sua has a nice voice and that he hopes she gets a high score in Alien Stage, while Sua tells him to take care and that she'll see him there.
I think that Sua and Till actually have the potential to be pretty good friends, strangely enough.
As for similarities, there are quite a few!
The most significant similarity I see between Till and Sua is that they're both deeply sensitive. Due to this, they've developed different defense mechanisms in order to protect their feelings.
Till is actually known to be timid, rather closed off and "cold" to others. In an early stream, he's even stated to be the most timid character of the cast. He only reveals his energetic and fiery side when he's putting his full passion into something like performing his music, when he's provoked, or whenever Mizi is involved (she makes him "strong", the creators say). Of course this standoffish and aggressive behavior is a front for his softer, more vulnerable feelings. He was heavily mistreated as a child, which led him to become distrustful of most people. This plus other factors regarding his rebellious nature and more eccentric personality result in him being a "friendless idiot". Of course, once people get to know him they'll find that Till is actually quite the sweetheart, albeit a bit awkward.
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Sua is quite similar in this way. The creators describe her as soft-hearted, which is why she tears up so quickly in the IvanSua comic and the aforementioned art of Till and Mizi playing together.
Sua, just like Till, seems to be mistreated by her alien guardian. Although to a less violent extent than Guardian Urak, Sua's parent is seen to aggressively handle her without care, grabbing her by the head and shoving her forward. She's also placed in uncomfortable clothing and neglected without consideration for her own feelings. It may be due to this cold and lonely upbringing that Sua learned to hide her emotions as a coping mechanism.
It's been said that getting to know more about Sua is very difficult, as she's closed off and only ever opens up to Mizi. She seems cold on the surface, but the truth is she is hiding her sensitivity so that she won't get hurt. Sua is also very timid in nature, seen in how she only writes in the corners of people's yearbook pages with small font, putting in extra effort to not take up too much space.
But just like Till, Sua has her bolder side. Occasionally she's known to say very blunt and suprising things that other people would not expect of her, and she feels very deeply for the people she cares about. Sua may be the more cool and collected half of MiziSua, but we must not forget that she was tender-hearted to the point where she could not imagine living a life without Mizi in it, thus her sacrifice.
Both Sua and Till's original colors are white, and both are the only characters in the main cast who have ear piercings/earrings. They're both prone to tears and play the role of "god" in their respective relationships.
Something I really like about the ALNST offrec/actor AU is that among all the characters, Till and Sua were chosen to be the seniors!! I found it really cute! Sua, who is the most petite and smallest of the cast + Till, who in canon is the youngest in age. These two are actually the experienced seniors of the actor AU! It's so fun to me lol
Anyways, sorry for all of this, maybe it was a bit much, haha. Till and Sua are my two favorites, and I've always seen similarities between the two of them. I think there's similarities across several of the characters in ALNST, actually, which I hope to talk about in the future!
Thank you for the ask!!
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shakingparadigm · 9 months ago
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(this is a reply to @muchanmocha on one of my other posts! sorry for the late reply! I had to put it here, there wasn't enough space in the replies...)
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I believe that Ivan and Till have interacted beforehand, and Till made enough of an impression on Ivan for him to take interest.
According to the Anakt Kit entries, Till arrived at the Garden first, with Ivan coming in afterward. Apparently, when Ivan was new to the Garden, Till got into a fight with him.
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There's a chance that this incident was their first fight, which could also be why Ivan looks so elated. He's experiencing something new.
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Apparently, Ivan had "generously forgiven" Till shortly after this event. Since they had gotten into a fight, I believe that's when Ivan first set his sights on Till. It's hard to ignore such an intense fighting spirit when it's swinging right at you, after all!
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The shots that come right after this scene could play chronologically as well. Ivan and Till get into a fight, Ivan becomes interested in Till, stages the incident, and then the rest is history.
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(There's also the fact that Ivan and Till saw each other even before adoption, and considering Ivan's association with observation and watching I think this is something he'd remember, especially since Till is involved.)
That's just how I see things though haha I might be off. Sorry for the lengthy reply!
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shakingparadigm · 9 months ago
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i’m sorry but i am still yet to know about where did ivan learn all of this shit came from?? like how did he learn the knowledge to unlock the collar and whatnot.
like did he learn from observation? did unsha taught him?
better yet, does segyein even knew about this?
maybe there’s already an answer and i am just legally blonde (blind) but i am curious on what do u think about this :0
btw i am relatively new to this whole alnst and i really love your post so far :) i am scared for r7 hold me,,
welcome to alnst anon!!!! i am holding you... we will make it through r7 together.....
As far as I know, the true reason as to why Ivan can do these things has yet to be revealed. There are certain factors that may have contributed to him gaining this knowledge, however.
He's an incredibly intelligent child. Intelligent enough for it to be a significant feature, one that is pointed out and emphasized by the segyein themselves. He's also a very keen observer and internalizes a lot of the things he witnesses (he's said to mimic the expressions and behaviors of others in order to create a "mask", but I wouldn't doubt him trying to mimic certain patterns and actions that he observes from the segyein as well).
There's the important factor of Ivan being a model student and the "perfect" pet, a persona that grants him a certain amount of privilege and plausible deniability. From the Anakt Kit entries, it seems that the segyein looking after the Garden are quite fond of him and don't find him capable of doing anything wrong or rebellious. Since the segyein removed Ivan's collar due to good behavior, there's a possibility that Ivan was also allowed to see things that other pets weren't. Perhaps as a trusted pet he was granted access to bits of information or was given certain responsibilities that led to him acquiring new knowledge. Just speculation, though.
I'm not sure if Unsha is aware or even involved in Ivan's... special abilities, but I'd guess the answer is no. Ivan is quite good at keeping certain things hidden, especially in front of authority figures. He also utilizes these abilities where he's sure the segyein won't see, so it's safe to assume that it's something meant to be kept secret. They can't know that he knows. Judging by their overwhelmingly positive reviews on his behavior, it seems that they never found out.
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shakingparadigm · 10 months ago
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what would be your favorite piece of official merch ?
I think my favorite piece/s of merch would be the Anakt Garden Kit, the disc:mizisua book or the Alien Stage Magazine! I love reading printed book-like merch because I love learning more about the individual characters and lore of the universe.
(but my favorite decorative merch are those silly little ivantills from the ROUND 6 merch drop.... so small... I love owning things that I can carry around in the palm of my hand)
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shakingparadigm · 1 year ago
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Hey, where did you hear there's traces of something similar to sa in the Anakt Kit book? I don't know what age they graduate Anakt Garden from, but the implications of that are... something else.
I fully believe it's heavily implied Till was sexually assaulted in that scene. I can't think of any other reason the alien would have its clothes off. And I can't think of any reason he'd be sweating like that if it wasn't penetrative in some way. Maybe if he was molested, but I don't think that'd leave him looking so ill. In all the scenes before when he's been beaten and drugged, he wasn't sweating or hazy-eyed like that. And his eyes weren't like that before he was held down either, like they've had the color drained from them. The suggestive way he was held down and his disshelved clothes, while not proof on their own, further support those conclusions. I do think it's left up to interpretation, I just... don't know what any other interpretation would be.
I'm new to Alien Stage, and I'm trying to dig up as much lore as possible. It seems to be scattered all over and the wiki is near-useless. I just want to write angsty trauma recovery fanfic 😭
By the way, do you know if that red alien that grabbed him is his guardian? And when was he being thrown around with telekinesis as you mentioned?
Okay, so there's a photo shared around on twitter apparently from the Anakt Kit Book? It's of an older (most likely adult) Ivan and Till, their faces squished in the hands of what is a presumably a larger alien (the framing of the sketch puts you in the perspective of this alien, only it's hand is visible). The photo isn't inherently suggestive, but the forceful grabbing of their faces and the fact that they both show obvious disdain lead people to speculate that being physically forced is something that happens very often in their position.
Yeah, the pieces for the interpretation are there. With Alien Stage being based off of our own twisted idol culture, it's definitely not out of left field to expect that kind of topic to pop up, especially once the series begins exploring it's darker themes. This is going to be the last time I'll be talking about it on here, though. I'd prefer not to overdo it.
I feel as though that alien is in fact Guardian Urak. We actually haven't seen Guardian Urak properly, save for his shadowed form in ROUND 2. The Patreon posts showed an earlier design of him that matches pretty well to his silhouette in that episode.
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(This was the earliest animated sighting of Guardian Urak)
The telekinesis thing I talked about referred to this scene of Till getting tossed at the wall.
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I assumed it was via telekinesis because Guardian Urak sits upon a levitating chair, and we don't see any other force pushing against Till in this shot. In hindsight, Till probably could have just been thrown normally by someone who wasn't in frame.
Regarding the head alien, I believe it could be the new, finalized design of Guardian Urak, especially since he retains the qualities of a covered face and mainly white design. He also behaves as if he's directly responsible for Till, quickly becoming upset when his own pet won't perform for his guests.
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shakingparadigm · 1 year ago
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Thinking about the canonical fact (from the Anakt Garden Kit book) that Ivan is mature for his age but acts like a child when he's with Till.
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shakingparadigm · 1 year ago
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Thinking about the goodbye message Ivan wrote to Till in the Anakt Garden Kit and how the people who have it said that it was sad and heartbreaking. (ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT IM NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO READ IT)
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shakingparadigm · 1 year ago
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I feel like a solid half of my questions would be answered if I could afford the Anakt Garden kit. head in hands
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