#ambisobinary

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Tliagender Pride Flag

Tliaspec/tmesospec (tliagender/tmesogender spectrum)/tliaty, transliaspec/transmesospec (transliagender/transmesobinary spectrum)/transliaty/tmesobinary, or simply TLIA (translia), transmeso/tmeso: umbrella term for trans individuals who fits both “mia-” and “fia-” sides of the viabinary-to-aptobinary spectrum.

It's similar to transavire (transgenderavire), tbingender/TBIN (transbin/transbingender), tlideospec/tlideo (tlideogender/tlideobinary), and tlingender (TLIN/translin)/translingender. It could also anyone who fits both tmaingender and tfeingender (TMAIN/TFEIN) spectrums.

[alibinary]

Seeking input regarding mesobinary

Mesobinary is a term for people who feel like their gender identity and/or experience is related to both binary genders in some way.

It’s mainly a term for discussing the issues of having such an identity, while living in an exorsexist society that constantly tells/forces/etc. people to pick one binary gender.

You can read more about it and the system it’s in here, here and/or here.

Mesobinary, and other alibinary system terms, are not genders, or gender alignments, or ways to group specific gender identities. One can identify as mesobinary for being a man/woman bigender person or a man/woman androgyne, but one can also be a librandrogyne, an altefluid person, an ambonec, a millegender person, a genderfae person, a nonbinary person without further labels, and so on, and identify as mesobinary.

Meso means middle. My intention in coining mesobinary as such has to do with how mesobinary people are often asked/forced to “pick a side” between labels for men and labels for women, groups for men and groups for women, and so on, when they /do/ have ties to both of these groups, and thus they are in a way “in-between” those choices, regardless of their actual gender identity, or regardless of their actual preferences regarding those choices (man, woman, both, neither or in-between when that’s possible).

I’m using meso here to give people a starting point to remember this term. The same goes for exobinary, ideobinary and viabinary. These are just okay-ish prefixes, and not necessarily accurate depictions of the gender identities people in each of those groups use.

However, someone asked me (it’s on this blog) about changing the term or using an alternate term, because people who relate to being both men and women in some way while not relating to being “in-between” binary genders may think mesobinary can’t describe them accurately.

I talked with other people about this, and one of them asked me to make this post, separate from the ask, so people can see the context before responding.

Basically, the question is: do you feel like mesobinary is too inaccurate a word to describe people who may not feel any connection to being in-between binary genders? Do you feel like ambisobinary would be a better word, even if it may not be so intuitive?

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Maybinary Pride Flag

Maybinary (mayby/maybies or maybenary): someone who may be binary and/or may not be binary (maynby/maynb or maynonbinary); maybe being aptobinary, maybe not (maybinaryn't/maybenaryn't).

Maybinaries could be yesbinary (ambisobinary, ambinary/ambibinary or mesobinary) and/or nobinary (abinary or exobinary), semibinary (demibinary, half-binary or hemibinary) or seminonbinary (semienby/seminby, demienby/deminby/deminonbinary or heminonbinary/hemienby/heminby), abrobinary or aptobinary (exorgender), or anonbinary (binaryn't nonbinaryn't).

Usually, if someone asks "are you a boy or a girl?" or "are you binary?" you answer "maybe" (or "maybe yes, maybe not") or "so-so" (sobinary/sosobinary). Useful for questioning.

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Viaspec Pride Flag

Viagender Spectrum or Viaspec (alternatively: biaspec, xorspec or exorspec): an umbrella term similar to bingender (BIN) for anyone on the viabinary-to-binary spectrum; encompassing fiagender, miagender and liagender spectrums; being liaspec, fiaspec or miaspec; anyone whose identity is exorgender, partly xorgender, binary-aligned or adjacent, binaryflux or is in some way similar/related to/resemblant of exorgenderness (without them necessarily being binarine/binarish or BINgendered).

[alibinary]

is it possible to do an alternate term for alibinary spectra? in the case I'd suggest ambisobinary (mixing ambigender / mesogender concepts but not necessary them itself). because meso often means in the middle (as in mesomorph is in the middle of ectomorph and endomorph). some ambisobinary aren't okay with meso- because they have both binary gendered-ness and don't feel represented as in the middle but exactly both at once. fully comgender but not necessarily non-demigendered.

Mesobinary is not meant to describe any kind of gender, and mesobinary shouldn’t be used to describe bigender/polygender people in general either.

Mesobinary people are “in the middle” because the issues they face usually have to do with having to “pick a side” between binary genders or identities (sort of) related to binary genders (such as female-aligned or transmasculine), or with being reduced to one of those “sides”.

This is why the “in the middle” analogy is there, instead of a “both sides” one.

Who are those people who “aren’t okay with mesobinary”? Do they understand the system and what is it for? I’m open to changes or alternative terms, but not if people are misusing the concepts in the first place.