#also. every person involved in the m/f ships i have are always queer lol
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galpalaven · 2 years ago
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doesn't it bother u that as someone who has the means to provide a certain level of representation (through ur art or writing) for other lesbians or queer women, u always choose to write/do art of mostly m/f couples...?
its probably all the comphet that got beat into me as a child my good dude lmao
nah realistically i have noticed it myself but like. male characters in games with romance are typically more well written or interesting than the female characters which is just. you know. the unfortunate way things line up
that being said, i have a list about 20+ characters long of my favorite Interactive Fiction characters and ships and they are all. like. nonbinary characters lol. the main couple of my novel i'm working on is also a woman and a nonbinary person so. ya know.
unless nonbinary people dont count for you?
in which case. sucks to be u i guess but most of my ships outside of AAA games are f/nb lmao
also i don't owe anyone anything and bi women who date men exist and also deserve representation just as much as the rest of us~
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lochnessies · 3 years ago
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I'm pretty tired of certain edelkinnies projecting on her that she's some kind of grand sapphic rep we were all waiting for or something... As a non-edelstan wlw who enjoys pretty much every f/f ship in this game (that doesn't involve the few female characters I don't care for) I get really tired of the argument that not liking her means you hate gay women. Her story and character have nothing to do with telling an LGBT story of any kind, you could literally play as M!Byleth and she comes across as yet another waifu meant to pander to sweaty Reddit dudebros, but some people have decided that she's primarily meant as queer rep above everything else and decided the rest of us should view her that way too. It's already bad enough that "progressive" male fans will call you sexist for not liking their pixel waifu, now I have to deal with people from my own community acting like her being S-supportable by the female avatar erases all her flaws as and I gotta be okay with her bigotry and imperialism because she can be gay (also IntSys is like, SUPER woke and was totally thinking about people like us when creating her, yup!) I should just resort to using the same strawman whenever they talk shit about Rhea, who they don't seem to hold to the same ridiculous standard (and who has substantial f/f subtext in the game that doesn't involve the avatar). "You guys just hate to see a sapphic girlboss winning" will be my mantra from now on.
“certain edelkinnies” i feel like i’m missing out on some drama lmao but oh yeah anon i completely agree.
i can see why some lesbian/bi women would latch onto edelgard since wlw rep is pretty much always a welcome addition but it’s not a shield for her (or rather her stans) to hide behind when someone makes an argument they can’t go against and it’s definitely not cudgel to use against other people to attack their morals just bc they don’t see her in the same holy light u do. also being a villain doesn’t negate her sexuality in any way. she can still be in the wrong and have a crush on byleth of either sex… it’s not two exclusive traits.
personally, i’m not naïve enough to think that intsys made edel bi in an attempt to be more inclusive- it was a marketing ploy 100%. and guess what? i would say the same thing for rhea, dorothea, yuri, lin, etc. does this make me dislike them or view them as less bisexual? of course not but let’s not delude ourselves lol
and i find it kinda telling that i only see this behavior from one section of the fandom. i don’t see yuri or lin stans acting a fool (sometimes doro but not to the same extent). i might joke that rhea is a gay pope and if you hate her ur homophobic but never in a million years would i use that as an actual argument. rhea is bisexual and she still definitely torched those bitches at the end of cf.
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