#also: i'm not kidding when i say they are sorta sexist

[autistic-lesbianism]

I'm hoping venting here is ok. I was 12 and I met them I befriended them because I felt different for a character it's fnaf and barely anyone understood me so I wanted to be close our relationship wasn't great he was very obsessive with the idea of fame it was gross pre-say constantly pushing me to give him shoutouts and find ways to make him more subsbers and fame in the end, moving on to early 13 after 12 if I say which he'll target me he's trying to make it look like he was innocent after someone explained to him I was correct and Its ok to have 'opinions' on fandoms. Basically it was a video fnaf I was trying to suggestions on what to change or include the character I thought of came up he called me dumb lots of other stuff I have a mental disability for reference he's aware said by himself due to the slurs most in community tab which he deleted to prove he's innocent which is just gross. Basically I made a few reply videos saying what's happening I explained it was harassment and then he was trying to prove I was harassing him ofc he didn't have prove claimed I didn't my proof is his channel I was a kid expressing myself and again I made gacha videos during the time so my storage was sorta always full I was one of those kids who took indiviual screenshots to make YouTube videos I know it's weird I have a better solution now but again I was a kid almost 13 during the time or was not sure. Basically he used my face a minor and asked people to talk to me having many people threaten me based off stuff he knew wasn't true he photoshopped stuff which most of it is deleted right now because yes he's trying to look innocent I remember a specific video he called my mom sexists slurs because I told her and threatened me when he found out she was actually a mother it's honestly disgusting but truth he got multiple friends who were female to prove I was lying ofc he lost most of them after they found out but still, turn down to now he had people attack me a lot I was very open about mental health I know he's aware because he openly admitted to stalking my socials so I'd stay quiet on him and "exposed" my vents and made sure if I ever told my friend people would publicly mock me so I couldn't feel safe he gave me PTSD and I self harm so tbh I'd love to hear him prove he's the one in pain especially when he mocks me constantly publicly still dose. I death threat him it's not good but tbh I was reporting roleplaying with my friend and that's why I felt better YouTube tells viewers to report content. If you recognize this post be aware he's trying to make me delete my accounts so it looks like I'm obsessed it's gross but tbh true also pretending to be me and acting stereotypically how he claimed I'm like in his videos so it's very obvious but just letting everyone know his user is DallenNye

Oh I’m so sorry little one..

I promise you can vent here anytime, anyone can

I promise I’ll help in anyway I can

[username-661]

Wanna make it clear now this isn't attacking dallennye, I HAVE to address it because he used my legal name as a 12 year old (Its on his channel public so blame him if you want this down) and I want my side out just so people know

I'm only posting this here because I had deleted my other accounts and do not want drama with them

*Yes dallennye I noticed your "friends" accounts a month old threatening me to harm myself and how no one cares and to stay quiet. Your not intimidating me to stay quiet anymore, he did this same shit to me in 2023, when I was 12-13

Anyway

Started while, I was late 12/ early 13. I had friended him over a video on funtime foxy being male because I've never had a lot in common with my friends I think It came to a video on the charters told him what I thought he is older said by himself he was 14-15 then is 16 now and yeah I said funtime freddy is female dumb sure but again a kid and can think how I want, 100℅ he should have known better attacking me on how I was dumb I made channels defending myself he had people attack my mains constantly, and I decided to stop replying after my fee videos, in these I just went over what he did. Tbh all he did was call me names and claim I'm lying even though it seems weird what is this kid even replying to then..? Yeah I think people should have questioned him more. But during that time he took a lot of my friends he did photoshop stuff of me to start drama because I blocked him another thing to mention I told him it was harassment as he forced me to talk to him on all my other socials (that is the definition of harassment to force contact) he claims I am harassing him after yet also states I blocked him therefore neither makes sense you cannot be harassed and blocked. I wanna admit to my faults too but I won't make him look innocent in anyway.

I had made fake accounts but not for bad, his were to mock me and attack me, mine I faked having a friend who stood up for me It's weird but a lot of my friends didn't wanna be in drama and I felt sorta alone. Let's call them "Lily", same user Dallennye, Imma call DN, DN pretty much had attacked the account and made a video "exposing" my vents to keep me quiet, I dunno what to say although it was wrong I made a fake friend its worse he did this because it didn't harm him in anyway and again his age (He did use autism in the past to justify this but made a video mocking autistic people when I questioned it on Deviantart, I won't say I was nicely saying it but having a older kid insult you 24/7 and claim your doing bad shit when your ignoring them sucks). I'm just telling a few stories BTW, and yeah he was attacking me and one day I came inside (I slept in a car during that time) and had told my mom this was around 2023, my mom had talked to him and well he made sexists comments on women not being able to stand up for themselves ect he kept calling my mom and sister "he/him" pronouns, It did stop after he did it one day when I was at school mom got on a discord call with him and ig he saw it wasn't a dude at all nor a friend, I still thank mom for that his video crying but he told me never to tell a parent and basically I think thats creepy as fuck...I do think he might not have a mom as his hatred for the idea od mehaving one I am not to upset just feel pity for him. Around the time after that since I didn't reply for most of it, I was reporting and doing a RP with someone in reports for therapic not to expose or target DN, unlike what he said I didn't watch his videos all his old ones all he did was name-call me. I do not even have the same device he has and I do not get reports then so how it is justified I sent death threats that is true he kept "exposing" me for things he knew i didn't do taking my friends ect and yeah school bullying cuz I came out about my then GF, but still I do say its wrong I do not support that AT ALL it doesn't change I didn't even know he could have saw it, some people would just describe the videos slightly to me again I didn't even wanna hear it for the most part. I don't have a great memory but for that the cats that I will not apologize to him especially not because he still plays victim and refuses to apologize or even admit bad shit he did, and he did a lot, I do not feel bad for him but it was not right, I did see he attacked his own two friends in series because I wasn't around to mock I guess? Well I made fake accounts with a good name I'd say trying to make him see it as bad he didn't care and tried to normalize using younger kids for views and targeting, it didn't matter he blocked made a new one and he just got annoyed so I left.

That was mostly all I did but I tried to come out he had his "friends" although they claim to have known nothing about it, attacked me and even recently for coming out I was told to harm myself by two people, told no one cares ect. That definitely is t a consequence and the reality is no friend would do that for someone I knew him personally he isn't very nice stays away and constantly wants things to make his own success or he did when I was 12-13 his younger friend (which is gross to use kids for fame and actually illegal read the guidelines) After coming out all hell basically people pretending to be me, and claiming I attacked them on sites he publicly has accounts on like Roblox wich I didn't even have at the time so it couldn't have been me these accounts having the same pattern as his old accounts and after I explain to them what I think it is they weirdly disappear lol, after I called it out on the same site people claiming to know me randomly in toxic settings, non being true believe it or not I block people after leaving my point. DN knew that again that's why he was mad I blocked him but it proves that isn't even normal behavior for me. Its VERY suspicious but I don't eanna point figures yet, I won't use this page after this as DN is having people stalk me and treat me horribly for saying anything this was true years ago and he is actually the main cause of my self harm relapse as he had encouraged people to believe I was toxic when he used my bad mental state against me, having others around his age again he is old enough to know better, there is no what he did is ok, not saying what I did was either but I just turned dam 14 not even long ago, I was stuck in a s3xua//y abu5ive relationship as well with a girl, it isn't helpful at all. I will not stay quiet.

"Why am I admitting my bad's to?" Mostly because I should. Karma isn't real never believe it never will because look at it nothing happens. I do not care I simply refuse to live a lie just because he wants to and mostly for my religion as a atheist satanist.

And for proof, his whole channel is the dam proof just look at the holes in his story if you really cared... None of what he says actually makes sense if you compare it to my actions as well, another thing to note if that DN also mocks me publicly not something victims do he give me f*@$-king PTSD and the name and old profile still bothers me inside, he doesn't experience even a fraction of what he did to me. He isn't a victim...

Also apologize for the spamming posts (Not for DN ofc he doesn't derseve it <3)

"Someone" keeps pretending to be me, funny enough that the 'me" acted exactly how he claimed I acted and if you met me you knew it wasn't alike.. I think he just pretended to be me straight up to get himself followers of pity It's gross and sad. He did admit to using fake editor apps when he made the video "Its a joke" and "___ is a karen!" he called me names a lot for being a victim.. And yeah he exposed the app in those videos so that's that for you, it's because I had proof I was at the candy store therefore he lied about me talking to him and "admitting". Also the comment "No one will help if it's online" Shows he knows it's malicious... DO A BACKUP CHECK ON HIS CHANNEL.

Hope one day the truth can be out and accepted not attacked to protect a person who only wanted fame. Doesn't help that recently he made a homophobic comment on how its not right because gay which yes is homophobic and against rights in ways he was caught attacking a kid for the same thing he did to me (a characters gender in uh that fluffy animal series i dunno its name he mocked user who pointed it out and the post is STILL up so give a look if he did it to someone else in 2024 is it odd he would do it to me in 2023..?.)

You can be his friend all you want but don't come near me I'm so sick of him using his underaged friends as bait he did that to someone I knew IRL she still liked me then and didn't even know it was wrong to pretend to be someone else for a "friend" It's gross. And I don't respect it but you can I did it ended me badly, he was my friend once, see what happens to you.

EDIT

The fact after this someone threatened my life and I was getting targeted more wtf... Says stuff 100℅.

Over more events I did not call him a pedophile he took my words out of context BADLY, I had said it is weird he talks to my younger friends as a 13 year old to talk in private with their legal phone numbers when he is 15. That isn't normal they were 8-10 years old. He just said I meant that I didn't I thought he was gonna manipulate them to attack kids like he did with my sister.

[roostertuftart]

I know you're the Kyle expert, but I knew a guy who thought Stan would be an incel. Thoughts?

Hmmm. Idk, I've seen that float around and I don't really get it?? Like, I can sorta get it more than when people seriously say it about Kyle. Stan definitely seems to fall into more... Viewing girls sort of in that perhaps lightly internally sexist way than Kyle seems to, of having some sort of unintentional separation between boys and girls that makes him kind of view girls as very different types of people friendwise, if that makes sense. Like, say he was dating a guy- I don't think much would change in terms of the guy being an extremely close friend who's been elevated up an extra level to romantic. But Wendy isn't really like that. She's not Stan's friend outside of their relationship.

And okay, that's not to say Kyle is a bastion of anti sexism himself, ESPECIALLY noting earlier seasons, but Kyle doesn't really seem to act the same way Stan does when interacting with girls?? His early season sexism felt more innocent and childish, something he's definitely grown out of now. It was less built on this deep internalized toxic masculinity and more like the "eww cooties" ideas that happen a lot with young kids. Obviously division based on traits like sex is not good under any circumstance, but it doesn't seem to have carried on much in his modern view of girls. Nowadays Kyle just seems to view girls far more equally even when divided from them, and cares more about listening or hearing out where they're coming from and understanding their frustration with sexism, for example. While he doesn't really have many close female friends (and really none of the boys actually do besides Stan), his behavior doesn't really shift at all to trying to be gentlemen-y or something around women, denoting a very equal level view of them.

But, in Stan's defense, we see him interacting with the girls way more than Kyle, and I think him having dated Wendy, interacting with her friends, etc etc over the series gives us way more to work with in that area than we get to with the more or less far in between hints we're given with Kyle. One thing that I think may impact this for me is also kind of that the few times we HAVE seen Kyle's attraction to girls play out, putting aside Leslie bc oh boy was Kyle blindly simping there, he doesn't seem to be as quick to focus on like... I guess vaguely sexual aspects like the other boys, which leads to him just seeming to objectify women less (Not to say that being sexually attracted to someone is inherently objectifying, but there is more of an overlap with people who are drawn by looks and engagement in objectifying behavior).

And then there's how Kyle has reacted to being rejected, and I know the big one is Super Hard PCness that everyone likes to point out as Kyle being a "nice guy", but in actuality, he was extremely graceful in how their relationship ended, moreso than he needed to be with the horrible things Heidi said to him, and only flipped out after being bullied and teased and harassed by virtually the whole school, Cartman and Heidi especially. It was definitely not anger purely because he didn't get a girl he liked, it was anger that someone he'd trusted and tried to help so swiftly turned on him and humiliated him for no reason at all, that once again he was being put down by Cartman, and that everyone else treated him poorly as well, Stan included. There's also Rebecca who Kyle just... Kinda let go. Like, we don't really see much of his reaction but there's nothing to tell us Kyle was angry their relationship was broken off, so I'm counting it at least a little. There's Nichole too, who once again we don't really straight up see Kyle's reaction to her breaking up with him. But we do see how he treats her, how much he tries to find stuff they have in common to talk about, how his only anger of their relationship not working is Cartman's blatant racism and lies about him purposely made to sabotage any chances he does get with this girl that he likes. It's not anger towards whatever choice Nichole makes here, it's anger about Cartman's needless and morally egregious interference. I know this is a low bar to pass in whether a character is decent to women, but Kyle just repeatedly not behaving badly over his breakups is a big tell to me. So often we see male characters act like assholes just because a girl doesn't like them or a girl broke up with them or something. Even with Stan, in fact, we've seen this play out. I mean. He's pretty okay too but we did see him tell Wendy she was a bitch for dating someone else. This is from early seasons, that I wouldn't solely use as evidence Stan is a crazy sexist even now, but it plays a part in this conversation on whether or not you can more accurately call Stan Marsh the incel-ish one of the two.

Okay, but like. Why am I even talking so much about Kyle here when you're asking about Stan? Well, I honestly think that the duality of them as characters reinforces the ideas of what the other is like to the audience, and this leads into a LOT of the extremes the fandom will push them into (the fem/masc debate, the nerd/jock debate, etc etc) and likewise it does so here. When we see Kyle being kinda more normal around girls, even though it's rare we see him like that at all, it makes Stan seem all the more awkward when in reality, he kind of isn't that bad at all?? He's pretty normal with girls for a boy his age, though he could be a bit less of a dick sometimes. I do think he sometimes has this huge focus on looks, and that can be... Not great, but it's not to a horrible evil incel-ish degree by any means, and I'd argue for his age he's a pretty good guy to, say, Wendy- Not that he can't improve a LOT but Idk, his shittiness comes off more as "dumb little boy is sometimes a jerk to his friends" to me than "secretly hates and disrespects women".

But y'know, at the end of the day, Kyle and Stan are more alike than people think about many of these things, this being one of them. Whether or not Kyle or Stan are better with how they act to women is hard to say. I can see why people would be able to twist Kyle into being incel-ish even if I don't really personally think it's based accurately on the information we've been given. I can see even moreso how someone might be able to with Stan, and while I do think there's at least a bit more of a leg to stand on him having some issues with internalized sexism, I don't think it's accurate with the information we've been given either. Neither of them are really incel-ish to me.

Honestly, if they were dealing with the issue of not being able to find a partner, they'd probably mostly internalize it into self blame and feel bad about themselves but not really broadly blame other people. Stan might slump into a depression or put his focus elsewhere, Kyle, if wanting a partner badly enough (I don't think it's ever been his first priority and I doubt it ever will be) would make efforts to fix the problem by figuring out what's putting people off about himself and try to figure out how he can fix it rather than lashing out. (Also I already lightly touched on why I don't think Kyle would redo his actions in The List right here over not being able to get a girlfriend lol)

[traumasurvivorshelpingsurvivors]

hii, TW mentions of abuse, neglect, but mostly focuses on being lied to and being adopted.



So, by accident I managed to get the minimal documents relating to my adoption that I have, and really the only one with any detail is a non-idenfying report of some things that happened.

Thing is, my adoptive parents REALLY don't want me to know anything about my history prior to them. The only reason why I have this is because they legally couldn't keep my legal documents(like health card, etc that sorta stuff) in a locked safe (even though they moved somewhere where the legal age of adulthood is older than 18 so I had to wait longer). They're also neglectful, and borderline abusive (I'm still figuring it out).

My birth certificate has no parents on it or sex or location, it's just has my name and the day I was supposively born. My health card is similar where it's lacking some information (I've tried fixing it but they just have me a new one also missing details).

The non-identifying history document is the closest thing I've ever had about learning about my birth parents, and it turns out my adoptive mother went through and blacked out all instances of my birth name, scribbled on some sections to make it hard to read, and it's filled with typos, mistakes, and very obvious lies.

It says that I was part of clubs and activities I never did as a child, and said things about my behaviour that I was forced to do when a social worker came over. I tried not getting adopted by my adoptive parents and it says that "I was confused but they cleared it up" and the "clearing up" was my adoptive parents lying to me about what to say so they could adopt me.

It also lied about when my adoptive parents were home and how much involvement they had in my life prior to adoption, plus contains some other information my adoptive parents hid from me. Like how my older foster brother was physically and sexually abusive towards me and the only reason it got reported was because of another foster kid, my adoptive parents did nothing.

And how my birth parents were given no warning that I was going to a foster home. I was in the hospital and my adoptive parents came over one day, and the next day I went home with them and my birth parents weren't told anything about where I went, what was going to happen to me, or anything like that. Just that I had new parents, that I had literally just met.

I feel really conflicted and even worse now, because it's so obvious that whoever was incharge of my case didn't care about me at all. The typos are numerous, even calling me a different name at one point, spelling my name wrong or calling the same people different last names. It even has my date of growing out of the system a few months after when I'd turn 18 because the person put in the wrong month because it starts with the same letter. They put two different birthdays for me in it, and get dates wrong too, on top of my adoptive parents lying about how good they are just so they can legally adopt me.

I don't know what to feel about this. I feel really gross, like. I knew that the reason I was wanted was because I fit the bill of the "perfect" (HEAVY quotation marks because the system is racist, sexist, ableist, and really gross in many ways about children) child to adopt. I was white, had no siblings I'd be paired with, I was young, afab, and because of developmental delays the adoptive parents would get all those "firsts" without actually having a baby. They'd have a child they'd get those firsts with anyways.

And I'm feeling even worse knowing that they lied about a lot just so they could adopt me. My social worker literally gave me to people that came to the hospital for an hour the day before and to my birth parents it would have seemed like I was kidnapped. And my social worker didn't give enough of a damn to bother fact checking or even spell check the document. I knew my case was weird, but it seems even more cobbled together and bizarre than I ever knew before.

I don't know if you have any advice or opinions or anything, but even some words would help. This is the closest thing I can get to knowledge about my past and it's so obviously fake that I can't help but wonder if something else went on. Surely someone had to care about me at some point?

Hi anon,

Wow, I'm so appalled by your adoptive parents' behavior, especially with altering information like your birth certificate. They sound very controlling and perhaps possessive as well, since it sounds like they've done pretty much everything to try to cut you off from your bio parents, as well as erase your own identity.

I don't know much about the foster care system or how it works but it doesn't sound right to me that you were kind of just handed off to them without any warning or preparation, and I can see how that makes it look almost like kidnapping. I'm curious if you know anything about the specific agency or program that facilitated the adoption, because my thought is to get in contact with them about your situation.

If anyone else has any suggestions or comments, please feel free to add on. Otherwise, I hope things work in your favor. Please let us know if you need anything.

-Bun

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I'm not sure if you care or wanna listen I'm hoping venting here is ok. I was 12 and I met them I befriended them because I felt different for a character it's fnaf and barely anyone understood me so I wanted to be close our relationship wasn't great he was very obsessive with the idea of fame it was gross pre-say constantly pushing me to give him shoutouts and find ways to make him more subsbers and fame in the end, moving on to early 13 after 12 if I say which he'll target me he's trying to make it look like he was innocent after someone explained to him I was correct and Its ok to have 'opinions' on fandoms. Basically it was a video fnaf I was trying to suggestions on what to change or include the character I thought of came up he called me dumb lots of other stuff I have a mental disability for reference he's aware said by himself due to the slurs most in community tab which he deleted to prove he's innocent which is just gross. Basically I made a few reply videos saying what's happening I explained it was harassment and then he was trying to prove I was harassing him ofc he didn't have prove claimed I didn't my proof is his channel I was a kid expressing myself and again I made gacha videos during the time so my storage was sorta always full I was one of those kids who took indiviual screenshots to make YouTube videos I know it's weird I have a better solution now but again I was a kid almost 13 during the time or was not sure. Basically he used my face a minor and asked people to talk to me having many people threaten me based off stuff he knew wasn't true he photoshopped stuff which most of it is deleted right now because yes he's trying to look innocent I remember a specific video he called my mom sexists slurs because I told her and threatened me when he found out she was actually a mother it's honestly disgusting but truth he got multiple friends who were female to prove I was lying ofc he lost most of them after they found out but still, turn down to now he had people attack me a lot I was very open about mental health I know he's aware because he openly admitted to stalking my socials so I'd stay quiet on him and "exposed" my vents and made sure if I ever told my friend people would publicly mock me so I couldn't feel safe he gave me PTSD and I self harm so tbh I'd love to hear him prove he's the one in pain especially when he mocks me constantly publicly still dose. I death threat him it's not good but tbh I was reporting roleplaying with my friend and that's why I felt better YouTube tells viewers to report content. If you recognize this post be aware he's trying to make me delete my accounts so it looks like I'm obsessed it's gross but tbh true also pretending to be me and acting stereotypically how he claimed I'm like in his videos so it's very obvious but just letting everyone know his user is DallenNye

Hey Anon~

Yes you can always come here to vent!

Sorry you’re going through this. Self harm is never the answer I like to read from anyone and I hate you feel the need to do that. If we are being honest due to pain in my past, I have self harmed and while it may make you feel better at first looking back at the scars can actually bring up the pain.

Not sure if you pray but I do and I will keep you in my prayers that one day this will all be behind you and you can live a peaceful life.

[onebloodybigship]

A James Bond gymnastics AU

• M runs, essentially, a gymnastic program to train special, very promising gymnasts. It’s called MI6, thus creating the title M. It’s shorthand for something, but no one really knows for WHAT.

• He and the old M had ~artistic differences~ aka he felt MI6 under her reign didn’t live up to it’s abilities. Cue to him threatening Bond to throw him out on the street if he doesnt stop fucking around

• Bill is the one who usually finds the gymnasts. He is, after all, the chief of staff. He’s also the sweetest person working in MI6. You got an issue with other students? Bill can mediate. You broke equipment or fucked up otherwise? Bill will make sure to find a solution with you

• Eve was a very promising young gymnast until she had a pretty nasty fall from the uneven bars and had to take a prolonged break. She spent a lot of that time helping M to establish himself at MI6. When she had fully healed, she realized that she hadn’t actually missed competing that mich

• Nowadays, she works as M’s secretary. She’s still a kickass gymnast, though, but she just trains for fun whenever she’s got the time.

• Eve also probably helps her friends plan their floor routines, because thats the most stressful part

• Q is one of M’s best gymnasts, he’s the kind of dude that makes the bars look as though he is essentially flying. Everything he does looks elegant and easy even though it’s super hard?? Most fun floor routines/tumbles. 10/10 pretty boy, has got a super supportive fanbase

• He despises rings because who doesnt? Everything else is okay, but rings make him and his fear of heights a bit.. icky

• Q’s success is essentially due to the fact he has his gymnastics down to a science. He caan calculate the degrees he needs to angle his body, the way he needs to bend, etc

• Q HATES the fact that male gymnastist arent allowed to do their floor routines with music because of ~sexism~. Eve hates the fact that all her routines had to look like a graceful little dance that takes no effort when they really require so. much. Strength.

• Q once forced a smaller competition into letting him and the other dudes that felt like it perform with music by threatening not to compete otherwise. He accidentally made the news with that one, and his fans LOVED him for it

• Bond is Q’s trainer and no one knows who decided it was a good idea to put the two together (`twas the old M. She knows her students, after all).

• Bond was an infamous gymnast back in the day, mostly because of crazy upper body strength and skill on the horse and the rings. He wasnt really that much of a genius, but there were constantly rumors that he slept with every. Single. Other. Contestant.

• Some even claimed he slept with the judges

• Still, he is very well-liked cause of his good manners and charm. Also not a sore looser.

• Basically everyone agreed he was a skilled himbo and Bond was actually fine with that cause it still got him where he needed and wanted to be

• He and Q get along like a house on fire,,, by which we mean: it’s a disaster at first. Bond still puts a lot of effort into pure and brutal strength cause that’s how he was supposed to do male gymnastics in his days, Q however wants his perfomances to look a lot more effortless and elegant and fun, which he thinks works better with his lean physique

• They need a while to find a common ground on elegance and ruthlessness, but after that stick with each other. Q learns to take Bond’s advice and Bond learns to trust Q with things he would have thought to be too „feminine“ for male gymnastics (cause, you know, ~sexism~)

• Alec worked with MI6 for a great good while but eventually changed programs, which really hurt Bond who did NOT want to compete against him. Anyway, there is a bit of bad blood, but now that Alex is a trainer as well, it’s mostly simmered down to rivalry

• Btw all the Bond villains and their henchmen? That’s the competing trainers and their trainees

• Have fun imaging Jaws sommersaulting or doing a cartwheel lmao

[ghostly-cabbage]

you guys got another one to read/reread alex rider bc of ttb.

i binged the show and am on the third book. the thing is i distinctly remember the end of scorpia and beginning of ark angel (alex getting shot nearly through the heart and then trying to escape something? while in recovery) but that is the only thing i remember after the first book. but it has been something like over 10 years since i read these. speaking of: i did not know there were so many books now?! and apparently anthony is still writing new ones?! though really hoping the 2000’s mmm 😐 moments will fade as the books go on… especially the fatphobia around smithers, and the low key racist stereotypes and side comments. i was questioning myself if i was just looking too far into it thinking that mrs stellenbosch was a transphobic character until the line “she looked like a man in drag” and went yep. fuck she is. now i don’t think any of this was malicious or even on purpose but rereading books you enjoyed as a kid now as an adult really reminds you how it was in the 2000s.

but the show is good and doesn’t have those problems. however, did anyone else notice it’s all the women in special operations that are concerned about alex? obviously mrs jones but i do like her character in the show. but also it was the women in wolf’s crew that spoke up about torturing alex. the other man didn’t say anything. but overall i am appreciating more diversity.

i have so much more to say about the show and the books but i should stop rambling. anyway, ttb is sooooo good and i am eagerly awaiting the next chapter and all those to come. alex rider and danny phantom is such a niche crossover but it works! and the scp stuff? absolutely perfect. you don’t happen to have links to any other scp x dp stuff do you? art or fics.

ps. idk wtf tumblr’s spacing is doing. i’m hoping it evens out when i send this ask and you don’t have to see the large, awkward, uneven gaps between paragraphs

Heheheheh welcome back to the Alex Rider brain worms!! I myself never read the books as a kid and it was totally Fin's doing pspsps'ing kkachi and I into AR (More specifically into an AR fanfic series called of Madness and Mammals, which I read all of without any canon knowledge and it was fantastic dfghjkl After that I started reading the books and then we watched the show!)

As for the 2000's moments..... yeah unfortunately there are some stuff in the early books that aren't great. Though Fin does tell me that the later books do in fact get better about that sorta thing. (i'm still not completely caught up) Some character details just feel so mean spirited and ignorant. I think it's something that was more run of the mill back then but also a symptom of a greater problem as a whole in the "spy fiction" genre. (From what I hear a lot of the Bond books and earlier movies are just so racist and sexist etc, and I think AR was meant to be a "Bond but for tween boys")

As far as the show goes, I think it does a really great job in fixing a lot of the issues the books had, both with plot, tone, and yes the diversity! I think what you pointed out about the women in the Department being sympathetic to Alex is really interesting and I hadn't realized that until you pointed it out! I think that, while Jones and Snake are more vocally sympathetic, I do think the people in the department all care about Alex in... different ways. Wolf's aside with Jones after the K-unit interrogation in Ep two I think proves that he was just as uncomfortable as Snake. I think that her speaking out and reaffirming his own feelings was just the push he needed so say "fuck our orders". There's also the fact that, even if people in the department seem concerned, just like in the books, they still never do anything to actually stop what's happening. They care, but they more or less remain complicit. Never pushing the envelope enough to endanger their own positions even if they know how wrong using a child is. Simple answer for this being that if they did there wouldn't be a show/book series so like asdfghjkl but it's fun to Think about! 👀  I'm so glad that you're enjoying TTB! It's been such a labour of love from the three of us! When we watched the AR show finally we were honestly so shocked. AT that point we'd already started panning TTB and so we were thrilled that the show was tonally so close to what were aiming for. The AR straight up dips into horror at times and its sense of atmosphere is so top notch. When we were approaching this crossover it really was the fact that Canon AR and SCP mesh well together that makes it work so well. It's very much the glue for this crossover! That and we started off characterizing TTB!Danny using a lot of my hcs for SWWDF!Danny and so pushing that even further in the horror/SCP direction was easier than trying to use a base-canon Danny. I think that trying to crossover Canon AR with Canon DP without it just being a fun crackfic would be pretty difficult. bc lets be honest they both can be so cheesy and ridiculous (affectionate) As for knowing of more dp x scp stuff, sadly I do not : (( I know awhile back there was people making a bunch of dp x scp memes, but those don't really have much plot per se. However, maybe if anyone does know they can slap them in the replies of this or I can make a new post to put out some feelers!

[kyriolex]

Since you said you can see Sarada being Hokage, Boruto being a Stay-at-Home Dad, Mitsuki being Anbu, and Kawaki being Sasuke 2.0

What position do see Himawari ending up in the future?

I'd like to think she'd become the Leader of the Hyuga Clan but the only issues with that are she is only Half-Hyuga and I doubt the writers would be willing to let her give up her Uzumaki surname, and then there's also Hanabi to consider... 🤔

There's also the fact that there's an entire episode dedicated to the Topic of what Himawari wants to be when she's older. Even outside of being a Shinobi

She says that she likes Art, Cooking and that she also likes to Travel. (Hey the girl's definitely got some aspirations I'll give her that 😋)

A lot of people sadly believe that Himawari will go down the same route as Hinata and become a Homemaker, and while I have no issue with Hinata's position, I absolutely most certainly do NOT see (or ever want to see) Himawari ending up in a Housewife position due to several factors:

1.) She (so far) doesn't have a love interest, which as stupid as it's sounds, does lessen her chances of being stuck as a stay at home Mom

2.) The new Generation is about trying to step out of the old Gen's Shadows and trying hard to be different. For this reason it's really hard for me to see Himawari following her Mom's exact same footsteps

3.) If they wanted Hima to stay at home they wouldn't have sent her to the Academy in the first place

4.) Finally as I mentioned above, Himawari actually has other aspirations. With Hinata it was sorta expected since didn't really have much of a goal outside of growing confidence and being by Naruto's side.

But with Himawari? She actually has other things that she wants to do with her life that don't involve romancing with boys so just tossing her into a Housewife position just seems cruel even by Kishi's usual sexist standards.

Yeah, as nice as it would be for her to be the next Hyuuga leader, I can't see Hiashi letting that happen since she doesn't have a full Byakugan.

Personally, I see Himawari being an Academy teacher. The Academy has art classes, field trips, and I'm sure a survival class here and there, so she'd be able to do art, travel, and cooking in addition to ninjutsu. She's good at encouraging people and bringing out the best in them, so I think she'd be an adult who is good with kids.

[theundeadmetalheadapolagia]

Hiya! I'm sorta coming off Anon to point this out: I never said half of the shit you pointed out? Neither did op. I'm gonna argue it anyway, though.

Let me start this off by saying that if you're into dissecting Billy & seeing how he ticks, cool. I don't begrudge people for finding him interesting as a character, but I do think that writing off genuinely criticism of his behaviour that is addressed in canon is a whole other thing. At the end of the day, Billy was written, explicitly, to be an antagonist. He hurt, attempted to hurt, &/or traumatized a good chunk of the main cast. He's very heavily implied to have held sexist beliefs ("your bitch" etc), homophobic beliefs (that "princess" was not in good queer fun), & yes, racist beliefs and actively acted on them.

And the thing is, the racism is basically spelled out as explicitly as can be in the show. He actively does not give a shit where Max is until it's possible that she's with Lucas. He breaks her shit & threatens her mental & physical health & nearly kills some kids to punish her for "talking back", but suddenly when Lucas is involved he gives a shit about her safety? He threatens Lucas with some pretty pointed dialogue, holds him against a wall despite the fact that he did absolutely nothing to Max (and if you said he made her feel bad, 1. He's the first one to reach out & try to explain and 2. Bite me that's still an overreaction to put it extremely mildly) but he's not racist? I would love to see how you can disprove it because Jesus wept, that's a very flimsy argument to say that the racism isn't there.

Point two: I'm so correct & hot & smart for my point about how Billy views femininity & queerness, because it's true. I can see why people read him as Heavily Repressed Queer but I don't buy it. I've met plenty of capital-S Straight guys who get so fucking incensed at the idea of being even slightly implied to be queer. I stand by my reading, even if I can accept that others don't have the same.

Third, yes, Neil sucks. Yes, he's definitely instilled some awful ideas about masculinity & whiteness in Billy. That doesn't excuse his actions. And yes, it all probably stems from fear and abuse, but abuse is a choice and Billy makes it at every single opportunity except his literal death, arguably. I do think, in the real world, a person can unlearn awful shit & become better after doing awful shit, but Billy's just a fictional guy. He's limited by his very nature to what's on the page, and the book is closed. Could they have handled it with a bit more tact & nuance? Maybe. But he's a character, not someone who can grow & change independently.

Plus, as a contrast, let us view Jonathan: also had a shit dad who used homophobic slurs as an insult, but didn't choose to abuse his little brother and instead stepped up for him. Very noticeably, Will & Jonathan are in a lot of S2 in contrast to Max & Billy (I can think of the car scenes off the top of my head). Hell, Steve's dad is implied to suck shit too, & he gets a better "growing up" arc than Billy. Because he chose to. Plenty of people, in the series itself and real life, have shitty dads and don't end up trying to run over children & mutilate cats, or beating someone to a concussion, unconsciousness & almost coma because they stopped you from committing a hate crime.

And yes, I think his death was a bad decision. I think Billy shouldn't have died a heroic death at the end of S3, and was wary that S4 would give him a delayed hero arc where everything was wiped away. I'm grateful that the nuance was held, somewhat, by Max having complicated feelings about it. Because abuse survivors often do. I think it would've been far more interesting if he does try to change, provided that his actions are never forgotten and, realistically, probably never forgiven by those he wronged.

And yes, I think if people are equating Eddie with physical filthiness just because he's from a trailer park, that's shitty as fuck. But if you're referring to the headcanons that he's into kinky sex as "filth", I kindly ask you to read up on why equating the two is dangerous for irl queer people. I will only ask once.

(Also, yeah, op, I do think most of Eddie is conjecture and wishful thinking. I do think the writers haven't provided much & most of it is a give & take between the fans & his actor)

Also, yes, Eddie's decision to run away is also motivated a lot by fear? So? Self-preservation is one thing. Actively physically, emotionally, mentally hurting people because you're too scared they're gonna nebulously affect your world view is a whole other.

Also, bonus round, did anyone say the actor did a bad job? Show of hands?

Tl;dr: I never said that Harringrove fans are stealing Eddie's characterization. I am saying that the accusations of steddie fans plagiarizing Harringrove, unless it's specifically referring to fics being copy/pasted (which, do not do that. That's bad.), are most likely baseless conjecture regarding "vibes", as the differences between the two are glaring. Also, that Billy sucks & pretending he doesn't is like. Ignoring what his character is about. As if other characters with bad dads don't also grow up and do better. But I got wayyyyy off point holy shit

"Steddie are just stealing from Harringrove!!!"

Eddie: genuinely good dude who acts flirty in a way that doesn't seem to use queerness as an insult

Billy: genuinely awful dude who calls Steve "princess" because by all accounts in canon, he thinks women are bitches & that queerness IS an insult

Like say what you will about Steddie, they get like 5 minutes of onscreen time, but at least those 5 minutes are not full of like. Blatant animosity & Eddie caving Steve's face in.

ooft……. yeah.

like i have to genuinely thank you for bringing this up because i had a bunch of billy stans basically try and make the argument to me that because he never said slurs he wasn’t homophobic. he wasn’t calling steve princess or pretty boy because he thinks highly of women or feminine men. let’s think about this critically people. for once it being the 80s is relevant and billy was being latently homophobic. this was not a big boy moment said in flirty jest. 

the boy was raised with a father that throws around the word fag with such vitriol i’d be more surprised if somehow billy wasn’t a bigot. and i’m sorry whilst i think he’s queer, in the show we’ve only ever seen him pursue (older) women

whereas eddie is very heavily queer coded. doesn’t seem to have a bigoted bone in his body. is very against the system. even when he thought he was at great risk didn’t actually hurt steve. and within the entirety of their dynamic, steve at the very least doesn’t object and at best seems to mutually play along just fine

i think a lot of steddie material is entirely fandom conjecture as well. to give the show credit would be too much credit to be frank. but that’s what makes the plagiarism comments so egregious. at least eddie’s characterisation is somewhat based in reality 😬

[aceofnerd]

It never came across to me like that though. I always felt like it was a blubt way of the creator putting out a message of equality, but they were an ally and didnt kbow how to do it organically. Allies, as wonderful as some can be, aren't ever that good with spreading the message because they write stories that aren't their own. They don't know how to write that particular struggle. (Cis)Men writing with feminist ideals often make mistakes like that because they don't suffer sexism. They wouldnt know how an actual scenario like that would play out.

But also I have been in situations like that as a queer, AFAB individual where my instinct IS to ask "is it because-" and have to watch the person flounder for a response. Usually the case is that they try to cover up their homophobic/transphobic/sexist remark or they argue with me. Because deep down they did feel that way either subconsciously and had to reevaluate themselves when I called them out, or consciously and were mad that I called them out instead of backing down and listening to them like they thought I should.

I personally don't hate the trope because I do feel as though there is good behind it, but I do agree that it is a forced dialogue. When I hear it, it feels clunky and out of place. And the fact that it is used so often has made it lose its power. I would honestly like it if they would vary the presentation of the sentiment rather than copy paste a single phrase.

Some of my favorite instances of the sentinent being changed up include (forgive me if the quotes are not perfect, its been a while since i watched some of these):

"No man can kill me" "I am no man!" LOTR

The part in Avatar the Last Airbender when the waterbending master refused to teach Katara offensive water bending because she was a girl, and then had to fight him to not only havr him keep Aang on as a student, but to prove to him her equal worth.

Angelika's whole character in the Brothers Grimm movie (they immediately didnt think she could be the animal tracker and was looking for her husband or father. You se her skin an animal two minutes later. They sorta back off after that.)

Basically what I'm saying is that I never gotten the vibe that they were portraying women as paranoid by using this trope. So I'll disagree with y'all there. But I do agree that it's a clunky line of dialogue and it could be shown better.

But do I want that sentiment to stop being put in media? Absolutely not. Kids watch these things at some point in their lives and they need to grow up knowing that there are indeed people who will think less of you if you aren't cishet white and/or male. BUT they need to see that it is a wrong way of thinking and that a TRUE HERO will not think less of you because of it. They will not assume that you are inherently inable to do certain things because of any of those traits. They will know you are a human being. To me, that's what this trope is representing.

HOWEVER

Your opinions are all valid and I can DEFINITELY SEE WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM. To those who are prejudice, are "nice guys" who believe feminist theory but dont practice it, to "allies" who are okay with queerness as long as it isnt noticable to them and "in their face"

This trope can fuel their attitudes. This trope can cause people who already think that way have an excuse to call women and queers paranoid. This trope can act as an example of "Not All Men" and assert that women and queers are the problem. This can definitely be a side effect.

Basically, yeah you right, but I do believe it can be used for good if written right and by people who do understand the struggle of the minority they are describing.

One of my least favourite dialogue tropes is when a man tells a woman, “You can’t do that” or “I wouldn’t do that if I were you” and she says, “Why? Because I’m a woman and therefore too weak to handle this/can’t take care of myself?” or something to that effect and the guy replies with, “No, because everyone who tried that ended up with a bullet in their brain” or something equally reasonable and not gender-specific that paints him as the rational not sexist guy and the woman as an irrational paranoid feminist who searches for sexism in everything. This whole scenario is built on the idea that sexism is over and women’s fears and suspicions don’t have a leg to stand on. It’s also self-congratulatory pseudofeminism bc it’s supposed to make the viewer/reader/listener feel that in this specific work of fiction women are treated respectfully and as equal with men.