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wazafam · 4 years ago
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There was a time in Friends where Joey appeared wearing a sling, but why was that? Created by David Crane and Marta Kauffman, Friends premiered on NBC in 1994 and came to an end in 2004 after 10 successful seasons. Friends is often regarded as one of the best TV shows ever, and even though over a decade has passed since it came to an end, its fanbase has recently expanded thanks to its arrival to the world of streaming through HBO Max, which has also allowed long-time fans to revisit the series and notice some details they never caught before, as well as wonder about some of the actions of the characters.
Friends is all about a group of six young adults living in New York City and dealing with adulthood as best as they can, juggling their social, personal, and professional lives, which more often than not end up clashing. Over the course of 10 seasons, viewers got to know Monica, Chandler, Phoebe, Joey, Rachel, and Ross quite well and saw them grow in all aspects of their lives, but they never lost their essence. Such is the case of Joey (Matt LeBlanc), who got involved in all types of fun though sometimes dumb situations throughout Friends, and on one occasion, he ended up wearing a sling for a couple of episodes, and that wasn’t exactly a decision taken by the writers of the show.
Related: Friends: Joey's "How you Doin'?" Catchphrase Started Later Than You Think
Season 3’s episode “The One with the Jam” opens with Chandler and Joey at their apartment, and while Chandler is just chilling, Joey can be heard jumping on the bed. Seconds later, it’s heard that Joey falls, and the next time viewers see him, his arm is in a sling. The episode carries on without much acknowledgment of Joey’s injury, and he was finally able to free himself from it a couple of episodes later. Joey’s injury wasn’t scripted, and it was a real injury that, as told by Matt LeBlanc, happened while filming the previous episode, “The One Where No One’s Ready”, one of Friends' few bottle episodes.
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Matt LeBlanc shared on Jimmy Kimmel Live! in 2017 that when they were filming “The One Where No One’s Ready” he dislocated his shoulder during the scene where he and Chandler are fighting over the chair. LeBlanc had to jump over the coffee table to sit on the chair, as seen in the episode, but while trying to do so he landed between the table and the chair, upside down, and in order to break the fall as he was going to land on his head, he put his arm up and his shoulder “exploded”. The audience thought it was part of the show and laughed, while LeBlanc went backstage in pain. He added that once he was there, Anthony Edwards from E.R. happened to be watching how the episode was being shot, and he thought he was hallucinating as he wasn’t a real doctor.
As a result of Matt LeBlanc’s dislocated shoulder, the writers added the scene of Joey jumping on the bed and falling to justify him wearing a sling, and it was such a Joey thing to do that viewers didn’t really question it at the time. Joey's injury in Friends season 3 is yet another fun story the cast has to tell, and it was added so subtly that fans didn't really wonder about it for years until the true story behind it was shared.
Next: Friends: Who Joey Ended Up With (& Why He Didn't Get Married)
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pluckyredhead · 7 years ago
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Daredevil 101: Foggy Finds Out, Part 2 (Ghost Stick Boogaloo)
[Content Warning: Severe mental health issues portrayed rather sloppily, suicide attempt, discussion of violence against sex workers.]
Last time on Daredevil 101, Matt was found in basically a catatonic state by Karen and Foggy - both of whom thought he was dead, and only one of whom knew he was Daredevil. By the next issue, Matt’s still out of it, and Foggy’s not particularly happy with anyone:
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IDK why Foggy’s a redhead here but WAY TO GO, KAREN. Yes, she kept Matt’s secret from Foggy - but it was Matt’s secret to tell. Just because Matt’s not in a position to be yelled at right now doesn’t mean Foggy gets to take it out on Karen.
And Matt’s really, really not in a position to be yelled at:
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Hooboy. I don’t believe anyone in Matt’s entire 53-year history has ever suggested therapy but, like...he should probably go? Right away? Honey.
Eventually, as he is wont to do, Matt decides to escape from the expectations of his two favorite people by climbing out the window and running away. It’s fairly distressing to his loved ones:
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THESE TWO. HOW I LOVE THEM.
So where is Matt? Well - possibly predicting DD Season 3 - he’s gone to see his mommy:
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Maggie tries to comfort him, but if confession could make Matt feel absolved of this he’d probably have gotten it over with a long time ago, repressed memory or no. (Though to be fair, I can only think of one example of 616!Matt taking confession, and that was this year.)
Leaving Maggie, Matt briefly flirts with the idea of just ending it all:
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Having decided not to kill himself, Matt returns to Jack Batlin’s hovel, only to be confronted by a surprising figure from his past:
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I mean, technically neither of you saw anything, and also shut up, Stick.
I’m not really sure how to take his presence here, because on the one hand, if it’s all in Matt’s head, that means that Matt’s way of coping with his mental health issues is to imagine his former mentor hitting him in the face with a cane until he feels better, which is appalling.
But if Stick’s really there, it means there’s a possibility for him to come back in DD Season 3, which is also appalling.
Anyway, Stick or Matt’s hallucination thereof goes away long enough for Matt to greet Karen. He attempts to do so with a kiss, because he is a moron:
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Matt takes a beat and apologizes - for yelling at Karen just now, and for, um, faking his death at her. I like this moment because it acknowledges simultaneously that Matt is having - and has been having - a really hard time, and yet he also treated his loved ones in an unacceptably cruel way, and though his illness is a reason, it’s not an excuse.
Meanwhile, there’s one person who never really gets an apology:
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Foggy looks so young and sweet in that first panel, MY HEART.
Anyway, I’ll come back to this later, but please note that Foggy’s betrayal here centers entirely on being lied to and he has no problems with the basic existence of Daredevil.
He’ll have to wait to get proper closure on this, but meanwhile Stick is still beating Matt up, this time almost definitely inside Matt’s head - and he’s brought help:
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Is this the first time Matt’s been beaten up by hallucinations of his various selves? It’s definitely not the last. Oh, Matt.
Seeking some kind of closure, he goes to the brothel where he accidentally knocked the prostitute out the window, all those years ago:
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Matt sort of vaguely explains his purpose, and the last woman explains that the girl in question, Lyla, was a runaway fleeing an unhappy home, and in a way maybe it’s better that she died and got out of this life young. I realize we have a little bit of an unreliable narrator situation here but I’d be okay with 100% fewer “better dead than a sex worker” opinions out there, fictional or not!
(This won’t be revealed for a couple more years, but "Lyla” turns out to not be dead, in a particularly dumb retcon. Not that her not dying is dumb, but the reveal is...well, you’ll see.)
Anyway, I guess putting a name to the accident makes Matt feel better, because he declares himself ready to put it behind him. At which point Stick drops a fairly hilarious bombshell:
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Yeah, Matt’s just been killing people pretty much his whole career, it turns out. Here are the most damning phrases to me: “some beaten an inch past their lives,” “you saw them as worthless maggots who deserved what they got,” and “faceless thug.” Matt habitually beats people to death, apparently, and then forgets about it because they deserve it???
(Stick telling him that taking even one life is too many is an interesting contrast to MCU Stick, who is constantly urging Matt to kill. But 616!Stick only kills Hand ninjas, who aren’t really alive to begin with.)
Anyway I think this is a real YMMV piece of canon. Personally I feel like it’s a pretty lukewarm approach to the ethics of killing, especially since DeMatteis would leave right after this arc. It just sort of throws down the idea that Matt kills people all the time, wags a finger at him, and leaves. Either dig into what this means, for Matt and for superheroes as a whole, or leave us with the polite fiction that superheroes (and head trauma) never ever kill. Don’t half-ass it like this.
And speaking of half-assing it:
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Matt just needs to accept all the parts of himself! That makes it okay to commit habitual manslaughter! Phew, what a relief. Time to eat a Pop-Tart and dance around Karen’s kitchen!
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HOORAY!
(No, seriously, I’m glad Matt’s feeling better and that he and Karen are okay, but see what I mean about half-assing it? You can’t be like “Matt, you kill people all the time” and then have him immediately get over it, especially in a story about how he developed a split personality disorder due to repressed guilt over accidentally killing someone ten years ago.)
With that, DeMatteis is off the book. Our next long-running writer will be Karl Kesel, but before he takes over there’s a brief fill-in by Ben Raab and Shawn McManus, which touches on the state of Matt and Foggy’s relationship. It’s...not good, and Matt doesn’t make it better by snooping - specifically, on Foggy at work with a client named Martinique:
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"Something’s not kosher here...” Please note that Matt, as always, is very upset by Foggy being attracted to someone else. Please also note Matt creeping on Foggy’s “pleasure centers.”
Matt announces his presence. Foggy’s not happy to see him:
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“Things may never be as good as they once were, but they can at least be good...” That’s practically up there with “Was anything ever real with us,” my goodness.
Please note that nowhere on this page does Matt use the word “sorry.” And yes, this is the first time he’s spoken to Foggy since before his “death.” Wow, Murdock. (Also, get a haircut.)
Matt does not trust any woman who flirts with his Foggy, so he tails Foggy to his meeting place with Martinique and finds a horrifyingly trippy carnival full of monstrous puppet versions of his enemies. And at the very center:
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It’s the classic superhero dilemma: Matt can only save one of his loved ones! And this time, he chooses Foggy.
All the trappings of the carnival fade away to reveal...Martinique, of course, a.k.a. Lady Mastermind:
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Right, so this makes no actual sense, because it’s not public knowledge that the “old” Daredevil is back. Martinique should be operating under the impression that the “current” Daredevil would show up in a black costume and not give two shits about either Foggy or Elektra. Also how would she know how Bullseye killed Elektra, anyway?
She takes off, and Matt and Foggy are left together:
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Again, this doesn’t make a lot of sense, given that Elektra’s not dead anymore, and Matt knows it. He doesn’t say that he knows Elektra wasn’t really there (in which case his choosing Foggy over her would mean very little), so is the implication supposed to be that once you die once Matt doesn’t care if you die again? This is all very silly.
Anyway, that’s...kind of it? No “Nelson v. Murdock”-style fight here, just Matt saying that he wants to be friends again with no actual apology at any point, and Foggy very slowly thawing over the next few issues. There’s no yelling, no catharsis, nothing. Feh, I say!
(I will reiterate what I noted above - Foggy’s only upset about being lied to. He has no ethical problems with Daredevil’s existence or vigilantism in general, and isn’t particularly troubled by Matt’s propensities towards lawbreaking, violence, or nearly getting himself killed. Because, of course, in the comics Matt is just one of many superheroes and is practically legally sanctioned, or at least not an outlaw - and Foggy has been friends with Daredevil for many years. Whereas in the MCU, Matt’s the first real vigilante and the first with a secret identity - the Avengers are (or have been) all government sanctioned and public, and Matt predates Spider-Man and the other Defenders. MCU Foggy doesn’t really have a framework to accept Matt’s extracurricular activities in the way 616 Foggy does.)
Next up: Brighter days for Daredevil and company as we head into the Kesel run...and finally meet Rosalind Sharpe!
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cityescape4 · 8 years ago
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Loss/Sochitzu Opinions and Spoilers under the cut
(before I start, to anyone actually reading this i apologize for switchinf back and forth with dub/sub names. I grew up with the dub and am only now getting used to sub names)
Good things first, before I get into my issues with this movie. (because theres more issues than good, sadly)
–Tai and Takeru teaming up to tease Matt is always a win in my book 👌 my musical bi blond son needs to be flustered more often its great
–I loved Gabumon in this ;w; he was adorable as fuck
–Joe fucking LAUNCHED himself at Gennai and it was GREAT. FUCK'EM UP, JOE
–I liked the idea of having different digimon and partners separated from one another. it creates interesting takes and character interactions we dont see often (i.e. Tai and Gabumon, Matt and Gomamon, Joe and Palmon/Patamon, etc) too bad outside of Tai/Gabumon they did little to nothing with it
–Kou and Motimon interacting gave me life like holy shit. I’m glad to see Toei didnt forget about Izzy’s development in the last movie. Also Oolong Tea.
–‘Kaiser Ken’-Gennai literally punched a person with a digimon and i dont know why i am so amused by that holy shit
–“Maybe I can be your new partner” god I’m a fucking sap for mushy shit like that
–The silent film take on the opening was… interesting. It wasn’t bad, but I didnt necessarily love it. It did show us that Maki and Daigo were part of that og group of DigiDestined that we learned about in prevous Adventure series, but I think alot of us assumed that already.
–Yoooo Azulongmon, Zhuchaomon and the other two Sovereigns are relevant again. Last time we saw them was what, Digimon Tamers?
I understand why Maki’s doing what shes doing tho. That doesnt excuse her from all her bullshit, but I understand her motivation now.
Now to the nitty-gritty:
–WHERE. ARE. THE 02 KIDS.
–it was really obvious they were trying to pad the runtime for this. like wow
–so we know now why there was random Tapirmon in the poster
–so Hackmon isn’t Daigo’s partner. I’d been assuming he was.
–Houhoumon/Phoenixmon’s evolution seemed really rushed and forced like… wow that was not the same development Mimi and Joe and Kou got
–also Seraphimon? really? that felt entirely unnecessary. Like, MangaAngemon alone was only seen 3 times in the previous two seasons combined. Also where was Takeru/T.K’s ‘development’? Granted we’ve seen Seraphimon once before, but that was the 02 movie with Willis, Terriermon, and Cherubimon - ergo non-canon
–speaking of the little blond, that sprained/broken ankle sure healed up fast huh buddy
– I know they’re all supposed to be rebooted but Yokomon/Biyomon was just… unnecessarily out of character like christ man
– speaking of the reboot SO YOU’RE TELLING ME THAT THE ENTIRETY OF LAST MOVIE’S DILEMMA WAS POINTLESS AND THE REBOOT WAS FOR NOTHING
–the power of partner bonds overrules the necessity of air underwater, apparently. we all acknowledge that matt and tai basically drowned, right? we saw the air leave them and they sunk to the ocean/lakebed floor, right? did i hallucinate???
–remember when agumon was more than just “can you eat a memory?” cuz this movie sure doesnt
–did… did gennai really need to get all rape-y with Sora and Meiko. like really. what the fuck toei
–this movie kinda fucked up a little with Maki? Cuz like… remember in the 2nd movie when she saw ‘Kaiser Ken’ standing on top of the school roof and was like ‘oh no Meicoomon i need to protect her’ but then now we know for a fact that not only did she know ‘Kaiser Ken’ was Gennai but that she was working with him and has been for some time??? I understand wanting to surprise and throw off the audience, but theres no reason to do that while creating a flaw/plot hole in your character.
–again, in regards to the different digimon with different partners scenario, they had sooooo much to work with in terms of characterization and interactions as well as platonic relationship development but they did practically nothing with it. There was literally a point where I was yelling at the screen because Toei decided to go the no dialogue route when there could have and should have been something there! Like when Izzy started showing Gomamon and Agumon pictures on his laptop! Why did Matt get angry??? was it something someone said??? was it some sort of inner turmoil??? was it simply cuz he missed/was worried about Gabumon and/or Takeru??? WE’LL NEVER KNOW.
–how did Meiko go to the digital world. why does she exist. like… i’m all for new characters, but holy shit just why. why are she and meicoomon a thing. out of the 4 series i’ve seen, I have never disliked a human Digimon character this much.
–please toei, i couldnt give less of a shit about the Matt/Sora/Tai love triangle. I’m not one for shipping discourse, or any bullshit like that, please stop with the bullshit about “oooooh whos sora gonna end up with???” because as much as i dislike it, we all know this is gonna end up with Matt/Sora and Tai/Meiko and Matt being a fucking astronaut
–what the fuck kinda skid to a halt ending was that
***all-in-all, Digimon Tri Loss.jpg was a 3 outta 10 and I’m severly underwhelmed. this felt like a bad fanfic come to life, and I’m worried about these last two movies***
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