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janiedean · 5 years ago

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Do you think that fanfic writers are self inserting when they don’t describe the female protag as they are? (Eg. they’re thin with no curves/breasts and the author describes the character as voluptuous with full breasts) I always wonder why they do that

uuuuuhm in... order...

self-insert is when you put yourself into the thing - not necessarily mary sue though that’s a thing but like I could throw in myself as a cameo OC in some fanfic just for the lulz and no one would know if I didn’t say it, so like.... I mean if I don’t have full breasts and I describe a flat breasts character with full ones then I’m not putting myself into it because I’m not putting a physical characteristic that belongs to me on a character

describing characters differently from canon depends on a whole other list of reasons that can go from projecting to your personal opinion on a thing - for example if I, a person who’d absolutely fuck sandor clegane as a first choice for one night stand in between each single dude in asoiaf she could choose, describe him as pretty damn fucking hot facial scarring included it won’t be the same as someone who doesn’t find sandor hot and has him cameo in a fic for a ship that doesn’t include sandor who won’t describe him as the nicest snack anyone could munch on in the seven kingdoms and like... everyone describes stuff the way they want to, I personally for one don’t care for fic where idk brienne goes to get her makeup done professionally and puts on a nice dress and suddenly everyone finds her the hottest thing after the nevada desert in august because idt it’s realistic when concerning the character but if someone is writing it bc they idk project on her and want a fic where people find her hot who am I to stop them? we all cope/project in different ways and it’s free real estate no one’s paying us for it so people can write whatever they want

it’s way more common to self-insert or project on other things rather than physical descriptions - I mean I headcanoned things about characters I wrote in fanfic that were definitely things I did that I went for because why the fuck not/it made sense to me (ie I’ve written theon disliking eating cheese more than once and I hate cheese but it was because why the fuck not, I also wrote theon loving guns n’ roses bc I think they’re his kinda thing when they’re not my favorite band but I do like them but that’s like me headcanoning shit just because I can I’m not pretending it’s grrm’s canon)/because sometimes doing that makes it easier to connect to a character and so on, and obviously when I write characters into music I like I’m partially self-projecting or at least I take from how I feel about that music to describe how it is for them etc but like... you do that because you can and it’s not like anyone is paying you, again - I mean I don’t think I’m good at writing arya, if I ever have to do her pov seriously I’d probably make her into something I like that feels right for her so at least I know I’d get that right and move on from there and so on

‘why people write stuff a certain way’ anon it’s like... fanfic is generally either wish fulfillment or exploration of stuff you’re interested in or both or a thing you do for fun because you want to see the characters doing that thing and you enjoy reading about them doing that thing, so if someone writes whatever it’s... usually for one of those reasons but again no one writes fanfic assuming it’s the next nobel prize of the century. it can be ic or ooc or whatever but I mean.... idk personally idg why people would assume jon snow could top his way out of anything ever and I can’t write him as a top ever but if someone writes jon/their oc with jon topping them bc they like to think about jon snow ravishing them it’s their fic and their business and may they have their fun, it’s not like I have to read it if I don’t like it or like they have to read me writing 6k of brienne pegging jaime because that’s what I like to write and because I think it’s what they’d like to do in their spare time based on my interpretation of the characters. everyone writes whatever they want for a shitload of reasons and it’s their prerogative

fyi there’s some self-insert going on most likely in each single original published novel you’ll read (ffs I mean tolkien was self-inserting in lotr at least twice to some level we serious) because at some point you will end up putting something of yourself in at least some of your characters because.... at some point you’ll want to/you write about stuff that supposedly interests you so obviously one or two characters will have shit in common with you or a friend or someone you hate or whatever xD like... that’s how writing goes and doing it to your oc or to a character someone else made up in fanfic doesn’t really change anything xD

#i mean in that original nano novel I'll hopefully finish before november #i have shit in common with the main except for TWO things one of which I did as THE SELLING POINT #bc like I know that if I write about THAT THING then I can make people get it #BC IT'S A PRETTY HUGE PART OF MY PERSONAL TASTES #but like..... that's a level #that dude is not MY self insert bc lmao not at all #but like THAT'S HOW IT WORKS XD #janie rants #janie writes #idek #Anonymous #ask post

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janiedean · 6 years ago

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Tbh i have a friend who ships j/s purely because she finds them aesthetically pleasing (i explained my shipping sansa with both tyrion and sandor and she said yeah that makes sense in a lot of ways, i just like imagining j/s because they're both pretty and look good together lol) but then she doesn't feel the need to "justify" her ships with *righteous* reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these s/gendry shippers are also doing it for the Aesthetics but disguising it as whatever bs ~1/2

(I wouldn't be surprised if that bs had to do with All Other S ships are abusive/paedophilic!!!!) (Who cares if there's actual romantic development in the other ships it doesn't fit their nice *pure* image sooo) and to make it MORE feminist, you have the arya doesn't need a guy anyway so it's fine to ship s/gendry *eyeroll*. Which is why I'm also rooting for arya and brienne to get the MOST conventional love stories in GoT with the more conventionally handsome guys lol, I'm petty, sorry 2/2

yeah like it’s pretty much.... the problem I have with jaime/sansa which has been a thing I Have Not Like since 2011 but in that case it’s because it pairs up people who have significant rships with... not conventionally attractive people and 99% of the time ignores it (I mean I read three jaime/sansa fics for science and they were all book canon post series and brienne wasn’t even mentioned once nOT EVEN TO SAY SHE DIED or smth like thanks but no XD) and like while I have absolutely no issue with people shipping stuff because of the aesthetic or for any other reason I also would really like if while doing that NOT shitting on the ships in which Someone Not Conventional Attractive Is Involved could be a thing - like I’ve seen too much crap like ‘X can’t be with Y BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT PRETTY ENOUGH FOR THEM’ and like.... guys please let everyone ship what they want XD

that said sansa/gendry is like..... beyond ridiculous to me like sorry to offend anyone or whatever but when you have to go for AeStHeTiC between people who never even met while on the same time going like ArYa WiLl NeVeR hAvE a RoMaNcE sHe’S tOo DaMaGeD it’s really... guys please just not especially when gendry has seasons of history with her and hasn’t even seen sansa once like at this point if you want the stark/baratheon marriage it makes more sense if JON marries him ffs XD and the day ppl get that it’s not FeMiNiSt to say that AH INDEPENDENT WOMEN DON’T NEED MEN FUCK THAT can’t come too late but yeah anon don’t you think I don’t hope the exact same also because I mean...... listen guys let’s be real, everyone here is all about the rep, the rep and the rep, but when it comes to cishet straight women who don’t look pretty or feminine or beautiful being shown to have interest in guys and the message says ‘oh hey look at here we have a woman who is Not Feminine/GNC and who everyone sees as too ugly/unlovable for her interest and who she is but guess what THEY GET THE HANDSOME GUYS BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEM FOR WHO THEY ARE SO HEY LOOK AT IT ALSO THESE WOMEN CAN GET IT WITHOUT NEEDING A MAKEOVER OR TO CHANGE OR TO ADAPT’... then it’s suddenly not rep anymore and not needed anymore? like ffs I wish someone had thrown me asoiaf when I was sixteen every damned day and I’d like it if people in my situation when I was sixteen could have their two (not one, TWO) gnc girls who get the guy who likes them for who they are instead of being told that they should need no man or that they’re too ugly or not feminine enough for that. jfc. I mean I relate to brienne and not to arya but I know a lot of people who do relate to arya or would have back in the day and man, are we really at the point that we ignore/deny what kind of rep they’re there for? jfc. and like, one thing is reading that stuff on w.org where we all know how the wind blows, but on a website of people who I should assume are *feminist* and want more diverse female characters and so on I really would expect a lot better than this LET’S PIT FEMALE CHARACTERS AGAINST EACH OTHER AND LET’S ASSUME THAT ONLY ONE TYPE IS VALID X°D

#1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #ch: arya stark #ch: brienne of tarth #anti-sansa x gendry #anti-jaime x sansa #sorry guys i'm really done with this mindset #like ship what you want but at least recognize the text #Anonymous #ask post

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janiedean · 6 years ago

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Idk if anyone already asked this but: what about ASOIAF/GOT characters and opera? Who are the experts, the casual fans, and the one who don't care but get dragged along anyway? Does anyone relate to a particular character? *cough* Is Tyrion the biggest Rigoletto fan? *cough* And/or, does any OTP relate to a particular opera pairing? :)

OKAY SORRY IT TOOK ME AGES BUT HERE I AM

(spoilers: you can find 80% of the following or will find it in my amazing opera singers au series)

lannisters & partners

tyrion is 100% an opera nerd and he identifies with rigoletto in frankly worrying ways - he’s like me with la traviata and cries at rigoletto’s first aria every single time and then at the ending PERIOD I DO NOT MAKE THE RULES but he also likes unconventional stuff ie russians/20th century germans (TYRION LOVES ALBAN BERG YOU CAN PRY THAT FROM MY DEAD HANDS)

bronn is the friends he drags with but the only character in any opera that he likes is sparafucile

cersei only listens to wagner because everything else is for the plebs and ofc her favorite is the valkyrie YES YOU KNOW THE ONE WITH THE TWINCEST she’s the biggest sieglinde stan

jaime likes it tho not as much as tyrion but he hates both dramas and wagner and tends to like comedies/stuff that ends well better and he and brienne meet bc tyrion set them up and sent them to see fidelio with his tickets and YOU KNOW THAT JAIME AND BRIENNE ARE 100% LEONORE AND FLORESTAN YOU DON’T CHANGE MY MIND ON THAT EVER IT’S THE MOST JB OPERA THAT EVER JB-ED

brienne also likes more the happy stuff than the sad stuff but yeah fidelio is Their Thing okay

tywin went because joanna liked it and then he stopped

starks & partners

ned & cat are that couple of nerds who goes to the opera for their anniversary and likes just about most stuff except a few single things they find boring but not as much to argue about it. for themselves, cat tends to like those donizetti operas with sopranos who at some point 100% lose it, ned is more into verdi and probably would agree with tyrion on rigoletto because y’know, FATHERS RELATE

but they also wanted their kids to get into it so their family tradition is that all go to see the magic flute together bc it’s kid-friendly and it worked bc all the stark kids love it ;)

robb’s totally into the comedies and hates the dramas and not counting the magic flute which ofc he loves because IT WAS HIS FIRST his fave is 100% rossini’s cenerentola FOR REASONS

addendum to say that theon is the friend he dragged with and thought would be boring but instead loves it and ends up converting and theon’s favorite - bc he’s a nerd - is most likely le comte ory ie THE ROSSINI CRACK OPERA WITH THE THREESOME WHERE THE TENOR IS CROSSDRESSING AS A NUN AND THE MEZZOSOPRANO PLAYS THE GUY AND THE BASS SINGS AN ARIA ABOUT STEALING ALCOHOL

but their ship they see themselves into are carlo and rodrigo from don carlo because lmao IT’S THEM

(robb prob. also have a soft spot for la clemenza di tito bc he and tito are the same person but nvm)

jon’s like 100% into dramas ALL THE DRAMA ALL THE TIME his fave is 100% la forza del destino ie the most terribly dramatic telenovela in history of dramatic opera

(he introduced it to ygritte who ofc is instead into all the rossini comedies with the a++++++ main lead ie italiana in algeri, barbiere di siviglia and so on which is a cause of endless amusement on her side because then they have to compromise)

(sam doesn’t need to be introduced because he’s 100% a nerd who cried over la traviata too but he likes all kind of stuff and who’ll go to both sand and fun operas and HE ALSO LIKES CENERENTOLA BEST THO)

sansa ofc is into THE ROMANCE so her fave is totally la traviata but she and robb totally agreed on cenerentola as well basically she robb and sam are the cenerentola stans cinnamon roll brigade

arya isn’t that much into it but she’ll go to most fun stuff and admittedly she has a soft spot for la fille du regiment because she totally identifies with maria (and tonio’s... well tonio is gendry let’s be real lmao)

(gendry is the friend she brought with once bc she likes that one and he immediately noticed)

bran goes with the others and he’s fine with it but he’s more into symphonic and not opera but he does like the family magic flute xD

rickon at some point got dragged to see the firebird when he was like six and everyone thought he’d sleep through it and instead he comes out of it like ‘guys I want to play the drums when I grow up’

baratheons & partners

robert thinks it’s boring af and wouldn’t set foot inside an opera ever, he just went once with ned to see don giovanni as a compromise

renly thinks it’s boring af and never went, then turns out that loras is 100% into it especially ACTUAL older stuff ie gluck and he totally dragged renly to see iphigenie en tauride BECAUSE ORESTES AND PYLADES ARE THE TWO OF THEM and renly had to relent and actually liked it

stannis is The Opera Nerd. he has a subscription to the local theater, he knows everything there is to know, he has a knowledge of minor baroque authors that would scare music professors, he also always goes alone because robert and renly wouldn’t go with him IF they cared, and his favorite is 100% rossini’s guillaume tell but only in the original french version WITH THE BALLETS or it’s a travesty

and he realizes davos is His Guy For Real when he shows up for their anniversary with tickets and then realizes that maybe someone who never went won’t want to see SIX HOURS OF FRENCH GRAND OPERA but davos just blinks like ‘k sure I’m open to everything’ and actually likes it (spoilers: davos’s fave becomes rossini’s la gazza ladra after he gets into it bECAUSE HE TOTALLY RELATES TO THE GIRL’S FATHER WHO SHOULD GO TO JAIL BUT IS ACTUALLY A GOOD GUY but he also likes le nozze di figaro bc YOU FEEL THE LOVE FOR THE LOWER CLASS)

tyrells

all of them used to go with olenna so all four are into it

loras as stated is into early-mid 18th century stuff ie gluck/handel/the likes (he’s the only one who actually likes julius caesar)

willas totally is into romcoms he cried the first time he went to see l’elisir d’amore and he’s been mercilessly mocked since

garlan is a sane person and likes more or less everything except extradramatic stuff

margaery is into bellini don’t tell me norma isn’t her fave

tullys

lysa never was into it bc cat was and so she always refused to go

brynden totally introduced cat to it but he’s a man of not much taste for EXTRA DRAMA so while he likes his verdi he just wants to relax with his mozart gdi but his fave is something totally overlooked ie PROBABLY IDOMENEO BECAUSE WHY THE HELL NOT HE’D LIKE IT

edmure totally went with cat & brynden and also was more into comedies turns out that his favorite is eventually falstaff and he’s always grumbling that verdi shouldn’t have made just ONE comedy ffs

targs:

viserys prob is a nerd but just of his favorite stuff and he’s either into countertenor stuff OR obscure shit or french grand opera AT BEST, he’s probably the only person other than loras who likes julius caesar

dany’s into it but very casually, she probably likes il trovatore because fire imagery everywhere tho

rhaegar is 100% into verdi drama like jon took ONE thing from him and that’s it, he probably is the kinda person who likes othello best for the Sheer Drama Factor

greyjoys:

balon and victarion legit hate it

euron is the only person other than cersei who actually willingly would go to see the ring and loves wagner

asha only goes with theon but she doesn’t mind it also bc alannys is 100% crazy into it that said she hates drama

alannys loves it her fave is la traviata I don’t make the rules

martells:

oberyn’s the hugest don giovanni stan in existence I DON’T MAKE THE RULES HE IS HE IDENTIFIES TO A T

elia’s chiller but the martells have the best taste and so they’d all like mozart she’s prob. into le nozze di figaro best because she totally relates to the countess

arianne likes così fan tutte and would punch anyone who says it’s sexist

other ppl:

sandor was dragged by sansa and he had been like WHAT DO I EVEN DO IN A THEATER HELP but then she picked something like gounod’s faust which he would like, turns out that then he ends into the most obscure SAD stuff and likes boito’s mefistofele best lISTEN HE’D BE INTO FAUSTIAN DEALS OPERA

lf is the kind of person who says they love opera but then criticize every single thing in every single staging and keep on saying opera should have died with maria callas

pyp/grenn/edd/the nw crowd went with jon once to watch something REALLY fucking sad TBH IT’D BE ERNANI and they’re like ‘jon wtf this is the worst’, then when sam learns it he goes like GUYS NO LET’S RECTIFY THIS and he brings them to l’italiana in algeri or SOME rossini fun opera and they change their mind

... okay I think I got MOST OF THE RELEVANT ONES IF I FORGOT ANYONE/YOU WANT ANYONE ELSE PLS ASK ;)

#headcanon tag #too many things to tag sorry #jaime x brienne for ts #throbb for ts #sansan for ts #i think nothing else would get blacklisted??? here u go #haljathefangirlcat #ask post

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janiedean · 8 years ago

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I'm the anon who said you don't glorify obesity. Look I don't know anything about that ship y'all keep referring to and I don't know who "Hunk" is or whatever, I'm talking in general terms. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SHIPPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT just to clarify. I think it's wrong that people glorify being skinny but I don't think glorifying obesity is any better (I'm talking about more than overweight - ACTUALLY OBESE)

I’m probably not explaining myself properly but I think people should be able to ship whatever they want, the shipping was never my point. I just think the way people on the internet have been going on like “Fat women are goddesses!!! Real women have curves!!! If you don’t agree you’re fatphobic!!!” is wrong. I have been hospitalized twice for anorexia, I know how being skinny is glorified but I don’t think switching it around so it becomes “being obese is totally awesome and if you say otherwise you’re a horrible fatphobe” is any better. I’m sorry for sending you so many messages, I’ll stop now.

okay so GIVEN THAT WE ALREADY CLARIFIED OURSELVES ON THE MISUNDERSTANDING: the problem is that we were actually talking about shipping XD and the other anon decided it had to be about health but like the problem in general is that as usual (on tumblr and I guess in the US because it’s mostly US beauty standards I’m seeing thrown around) is that there’s no middle way in anything. I mean, like:

body shaming is a thing. in general. the problem is that fatshaming is, like, a thing that is more culturally spread than the contrary even if in some countries (ie italy) there’s this concept that if you’re skinnier than a size 42 (I guess it’s like an S or small M) you’re omg so unhealthy please EAT SOME PUT MEAT ON YOUR BONES WHY DO U HATE GOOD FOOD, but it’s more of an older generation thing. like, I’ve had problems with weight bc when I was in freaking elementary school people would go like ‘omg you’re so fat’ at me and I thought I was and then I looked at some pictures years later and I was like ‘… wtf I was perfectly fine what the hell’ and there’s a general implication that fat/overweight = unhealthy when it’s not necessarily the case.

the problem is that when it comes to body positivity there is like literally zero distinction between curvy, overweight, fat and obese which are not the same thing, and there is zero distinction between body positivity and promote a healthy lifestyle. I mean, according to US standards someone who’s fat would be… like… normal here? a size M is seen as perfectly regular stuff but from what I see of US sizes, M is like OMG I’M FAT already, which… like. here it’s maybe curvy. also being some 3/4kgs overweight never killed anyone. but since I see ZERO DISTINCTION here, it’s all thrown in the same bag and it’s the exact same for people who have 3 kgs more than average, 10, 25, 50 or freaking 200. which is obviously not the same.

also, there is the complete lack of realizing what it means to be healthy and to not be thin. like, as has been said already it’s absolutely not a guarantee that being thin or skinny means that you’re healthy (I had a friend who used to be chubby, then got sick with a freaking chronic disease and came out of it with a body that ended up finding her a job as a fashion model but SHE STILL WAS HEALTHIER BEFORE THE FREAKING CHRONIC DISEASE), I’ve struggled with my extra kgs all my damned life and whenever I go on vacation with friends that are thinner than me but move around less or don’t go to the gym and the likes I am the one who can walk for longer or gets tired less and I have better blood tests than my father who’s at his ideal weight and takes five pills for a bunch of different stuff. some people are just heavier as a body type but if it’s their body and it’s not due to shitty eating or lack of exercise or whatever then they’re not unhealthy. obviously severely obese people who can’t walk for more than twenty minutes without feeling like fainting aren’t in that category but like never mind that for a moment, the problem is that your size doesn’t automatically mean unhealthy and having 20 extra kgs on you makes you fat maybe but not freaking obese.

THEN, on body positivity: there is a healthy difference between NOT BEING A JERK and spreading awareness re healthy habits. like, society/media and the likes shouldn’t promote being thin, they should promote being healthy ie eating well and exercising, not THIN = HEALTHY. as stated you can be healthy without being thin. (or, as the character we were talking about that you weren’t referencing, you can be mostly muscle and have some chub over it and THAT’S NOT BEING OBESE XD at the same time, if someone is overweight or obese or whatever for any reason whatsoever you can’t go at them and tell them omg go lose some weight you loser THAT’S HORRIBLE. I mean, there’s a difference between saying that one should try to be as healthy as possible and go like OMG YOU’RE FAT YOU’RE HORRIBLE. if body positivity means not shaming someone else for their body then go the fuck for it. the problem is that then according to people saying ‘okay but if you can’t walk to the supermarket and back without feeling short of breath and you might get heart diseases maybe you should consider dropping some extra weight for your own benefit’ is fatphobic which… lolno. not everyone is fat because of bad habits and they shouldn’t have people making them feel bad even if they are but assuming that the above sentence (especially when doctors recommend you to do more exercise) is inherently fatphobic imo is ridiculous. if my doctor tells me I should lose some weight then I’m gonna consider it and I’m not gonna feel like he’s *phobic*, if someone goes like ‘omg you’re so fat you’ll never find a guy who wants you’, that is fatphobic. like, THERE’S A DIFFERENCE. (at the same time people who are skinny/thinner than average shouldn’t get told all the time OMG PUT SOME MEAT ON THAT SKELETON REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES like fuck’s sake respect all body types. being a real woman has zero to do with how much meat you have on you.) what should be glorified is be healthy and be happy with whatever body type you have as long as it doesn’t cause you problems and at that point nicely try to make those problems right while you’re encouraged without shaming anyone in the process. (which also means: gdi don’t put other people down if they’re trying to gain weight or lose it, ffs.)

now, the problem with shipping: the thing is - and I swear to god I don’t wanna sound like a sjw now but I hope the previous essay has made clear how I feel in general on this issue - that, in my experience, fat/overweight characters especially if they’re male are seen as… either the laughing stock of the group or the harmless nerd or anyway never as sexual objects. every damned time I ship something where a guy is overweight/fat (notable exceptions jacob and queenie from fantastic beasts which tbh really was a nice surprise for the part where the fat guy who’s also a sweetheart hooks up with the bombshell and it’s THE BEST ROMANCE OF ALL good go you man) right as rain there’s rarely fic for it least of all porn, and even if there is someone will go around saying the fat character isn’t attractive or deserving of getting some. when I say ‘sam tarly syndrome’ I mean ‘fat/overweight guy is a sweetheart who has a lot of nice ships they could be in but they get thoroughly ignored or if it happens in canon fandom lols at it’. I mean, I basically had to start the jon/sam tag on my own (if you see the fics at the beginning it’s honestly sad to see TEN of mine all after the other), once on a kinkmeme I was like ‘okay doing it’ at a pwp prompt and I got as an answer OMG I WAS HOPING YOU’D SEE THIS NO ONE ELSE IN THIS FANDOM WRITES PORN FOR THESE TWO and whenever people discuss canon sex scenes…. the only one in the book that always gets lol-ed at is sam and gilly’s in spite of the fact that okay, it’s badly written, but ALL of the sex scenes in asoiaf except one are badly written. it’s not worse than the average. but sam getting some because a relatively hot girl wants him and the sex - omg! - actually being somewhat not vanilla is seen as… like… OMG HAHAHAHAHA I CAN’T BELIEVE HE’S GETTING SOME OMG HOW EMBARRASSING as if this guy being overweight means he can’t be seen as a palatable partner when it comes to having a sex life. same as the other anon being like ‘omg hunk (the person we were referring) is fat and unhealthy so he’s not good enough for the other person’ is… exactly the same. I mean, this hunk character is admittedly the one person in that bunch I’d actually date irl same as sam is the one character from asoiaf I’d date irl the others are completely out of the question, but since they’re *fat* naaaaah? and guess what sam/WHOEVER is a lot less popular than ships which make a lot less sense but are two hot characters stashed together bc they’re hot. (jaime/sansa has like 300+ fics and jon/sam is still under 100 but okay sure tell me it’s because it makes no sense. lol no. and being that the only porn around for those two was written by me and maybe two/three other people says all.)

at that point then people go like ‘well but it’s because they’re unhealthy’ and that is when it becomes ridiculous. because going with the above problem re fatshaming being a thing that happens on a societal level, it becomes IF YOU’RE FAT YOU’RE NOT SEXUALLY DESIRABLE AND NO ONE SHOULD WANT YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR UNHEALTHY WEIGHT, which mixes stuff that doesn’t even go together with being sexually desirable which is something inherently personal. as in: if someone who’s unhealthily fat for whichever reason has a significant other who loves them and their body guess what THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE A SEXUAL LIFE AND TO BANG PEOPLE/GET BANGED TO THEIR PLEASURE. because when it comes to preferences in the bedroom or loving a person, size can be a thing - some people have certain body shapes preferences and so on - or it cannot be a thing at all and anyway it doesn’t matter when it comes to your right to be seen as desirable/being desirable. people of all sizes can be desirable or sexy or definitely sexually available regardless of the size - like everyone is freaking allowed to be sexually desirable even if they don’t conform to whichever is the beauty canon around.

and given that I personally got told more than once also by admittedly well-meaning people that they wouldn’t ever consider seeing me as desirable because I was overweight or not as thin as other hot person around our class or even better, the aforementioned friend who turned out to be a fashion model using that as some coping mechanism (as in, she didn’t like being sick obv. but since she had come out of it with a scorching hot physique while I had then undiagnosed pcos so I was struggling with weight all the damned time and I was healthy otherwise... er let’s say that she used to tell me stuff like ‘ah well look at you and look at me instead how much better looking I am’ which obviously was in order to make herself feel better about her illness but sure as hell didn’t help me feeling good about myself), I’m honestly fucking tired of this whole trend in shipping where overweight/fat people don’t get any from their hot best friends with whom they’re absolutely shippable but the hot friends get shipped instead with the most improbable hot people that happens in 90% of fandoms I run into. because it’s just a reflection of how irl if you’re overweight a lot of the time people will say that your weight puts you out of the goddamned dating field and everyone deserves to be in there, damn it, regardless of their size. it has nothing to do with being healthy or unhealthy. and saying shit like ‘omg X is fat they’re not good enough for Y’ is really fucking old already.

tldr: I hope I made clear why I got pissed at the other anon and what I think of the whole matter. obviously no one has to glorify being *unhealthy* (extreme obesity and anorexia are both unhealthy) and no one needs to put other groups down while doing it (looking at you n*icki m*inaj - like sorry but according to my standards she’s thin, having a nice ass doesn’t make you *fat* or curvy, and going like FUCK ALL THOSE SKINNY BITCHES is the exact contrary of body positivity tbh). but at the same time everyone deserves to be seen as sexually desirable and it’s bullshit that the current narrative depicts being overweight as something undesirable. both in society and in fandom.

/peace

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