#also the implications of Martin dying at 17 (same age he quit school to take care of his mom in the TMA timeline) are interesting

[mantictiger]

i put this in the tags of a post at one point but I'd like to remind my fellow protocol listeners that if Jon and Martin died separately from separate incidents 20 years ago, if they were still born in 1987 and 1988 respectively (although Jon could've been born in '87 as well I'm not sure which is fully canon as either could be true based off info given in ep 81) they would've died in 2004 at 16-17 years old. of course they never met they lived in different parts of the country. as much as the whole "oh they never met in this universe how sad :(" is very sad it also makes sense why they never met!!