#also the fun of it being implied that neither Feyre or Rhys were right for Tamlin instead of Tamlin being wrong for them

[lady-tortilla-chip]

I actually really enjoy the idea of Nyx and Tamlin being mates because there is just something so funny to me about the idea that feysand’s entire purpose together is to just give Tamlin his mate lmao

[hellacioushag]

mindpalace0 said: @hellacioushag the reason why many elriels are against the mating bond for lucien and elain is because elain does not want it. It was something she did not choose for herself but instead it got forced upon her. Feysands and nessian knew each other before the mating bond reveal. That's not the case for elucien. On the worst taumatic day of elains life some random male claims her. Then she finds out she is shackled and is forced to have a bond with someone she doesn't know

mindpalace0 said: @hellacioushag yh it would be different if elain CHOSE to get to know lucien etc but of right now it's Canon that she gets really uncomfortable around him loses her boldness. Lucien is also shacked to her. He wouldn't have chosen her he says himself she was thrown at him. I can't say for all elriels but the ones I do k ow just want aleain to be able to choose to stray from what is expected of her. Right now everyone expects her to simply accept the bond and become a mate mindpalace0 said:  @hellacioushag I'm deeply sorry if u have ever received comments from idiotic elriels calling u antifeminist. Ignore them and know its not true. At the end of the day sjm can go anywhere with these books. Many elriels simply don't want to ship two people who are genuinely so uncomfortable and awkward around each other. That however can change as the books progress 

mindpalace0 said: Also it's CANON they r uncomfortable and awkward with eath other. Will that change later on in the book? maybe. But right now almost every scene of theirs is cringe to read. You can't be serious when u say that they r not uncomfortable around each other cause they r. Elain owes him NOTHING. Why should she. Why should she stop herself from being happy because of a bond she does not want. Feysand and nessian differ cause in the end they still got to know each other

mindpalace0 said: Before the bond revealed itself. Elain did not have that.

ok i think i got everything that was either directed at me or was just sent in the general post unspecified. i’m not gonna sit and talk about elriel cause i really don’t care about that ship or anyone’s reasons for shipping it. you do you. have fun. i will however address some of the critique you mentioned regarding my thoughts on elucien and the bond. 

1. we do not know how elain feels. we don’t have her pov so anything the other characters are inferring about her regarding her body language is only speculation, not fact. if cassian or nesta notes how elain’s boldness disappears in lucien’s presence we do not know why that is. we can only project our own assumptions as to the motive. you are assuming it’s because she’s uncomfortable around lucien and doesn’t want him. i could assume that she may have been overwhelmed by lucien’s presence because when he’s gone she isn’t faced with the bond, but in his presence she not only feels it there, but may also glean his feelings for her through the bond. neither one of us can claim our assumption is fact because we weren’t in elain’s pov in that scene. other characters interpretations are not always reliable. feyre assumed mor was hiding her love for azriel until mor flat out told her she had no romantic interest in him. until we have elain’s pov we cannot claim our assumption of the scenes are textual evidence. 

2. lucien didn’t say he was shackled to elain. the quote is this:

“I would agree with you on that,” I admitted. “But remember that they were engaged. Give her time to accept it.” “To accept a life shackled to me?” My nostrils flared. “That’s not what I meant.”

he is not oblivious to elain as some would like to claim. he and feyre were discussing graysen and how elain was still mourning the end of their relationship during acofas. feyre was trying to tell lucien to give elain time to accept it was truly over between her and graysen and lucien, having just been brushed off by elain, pushed his own insecurities onto feyre. i assume he thinks because elain won’t speak with him, won’t even try to get to know him, that she think he’s beneath her. that a life with him is surmountable to being shackled. again, this is his own fear and insecurities about her and the bond. we actually don’t know how elain feels about lucien. only the bond. only that she hates the idea of being bonded to anyone. 

3. eluciens, as far as i am aware, do not want elain to be forced into the bond. we want her to be able to get to know lucien the way feyre and nesta got to know rhys and cassian. we want them to have a chance. the only reason there’s a different dynamic with elucien vs feysand/nessian is because elain is aware of the bond and the idea of it has added fear and pressure to her. however, lucien has been kind and patient and understanding. when feyre asked him to move to velaris in acofas to get to know elain he declined. not because he doesn’t want to know her, not because he doesn’t want to be mates, but because he is allowing her to set the pace. he’s being respectful, but also wants her to know he’s thinking about her and he’s there whenever she may want to talk. he is putting himself in the uncomfortable situation of going to feyre’s holiday events and putting himself out there with gifts for his mate because he wants to get to know her. if elain asked him to stay away he would based on his history of respecting her need for space. so any pressure elain is feeling is not based on lucien’s actions, but the idea of the bond itself.

4. if you don’t like elucien that’s fine. my post wasn’t about trying to convince you otherwise. it was in relation to seeing a lot of anti-elucien posts implying shippers are anti-feminist and don’t respect elain and her choices. it was to uplift the elucien community cause i know seeing those same tired arguments gets annoying for me. i think it’s perfectly fine to talk about a ship, to dissect why you don’t like them, but i don’t think it’s acceptable to tear down the shippers who support the ship. to imply horrible things about the shippers and then claim it was just a personal opinion. nah. you want to make jokes, and memes, and shitposts about the fandom and shippers i think that’s fair game. you want to write a meta implying anyone supporting a certain ship are supporting child abuse or they’re misogynistic or they're racist is disgusting and it needs to stop (not you specifically, but the fandom as a whole).

[queenestarcheron]

acomaf review

so i recently reread acomaf and i made a post about everything that i liked/didn’t like (more of the latter). i also started another one so some of that is repeated in here. i have referenced page numbers but they are all from the uk paperback edition so i don’t think they will be the same for everyone. it’s all chronological. there will probably be typos since i wrote this on a whim pls ignore them. this is quite anti rhys so if that bothers you just ignore this and pls don’t attack me for my opinions.

(pg. 24) feyre says "I don't know if I can handle them calling me High Lady." implying that she doesn't even want to be in a position of power in prythian. is that the trauma talking? tamlin also says that there is no such thing as high lady which makes no sense bc high lord power is hereditary so it should be able to go to women too. also this makes rhys making feyre high lady make no sense.

(pg. 29) poor lucien i cannot believe his brothers did that to his girlfriend

(pg. 48-49) feyre threw a shoe at rhysand and all im saying is that, if nesta threw a shoe at cassian, they would try and flay her alive

(pg. 73) rhys says there can be high ladies... but there never was one?? how does he know they can exist? it doesn't add up. again, if a person could just be given the high lord power, then what is the point of having the high lord bloodline

the 90 pages in between are just feyre getting upset and rhys saving her from the spring court

(pg. 163) i am diSGOSTED "You know I'm always happy to tangle in the sheets with you Amren ... I know how much you enjoy Illyrian-" seriously?? i don't think this is a normal friendship dynamic. also we hear about how dangerous amren is but cassian literally just made this comment and she did nothing. and we dont see her do anything to others at all. the only thing to suggest that she's a powerful being was the end of acowar

(pg. 169) amren calling the illyrians "barbarians" does not sit right with me

(pg. 209) "They might not be happy about it, but I'll make Nesta and Elain do it" you'll make your sisters risk their lives and status? to help the fae? the race that enslaved humans for centuries? okay feyre. everyone's right, youre a great sister

(pg. 215) rhys offers feyre sex with cassian? how are the nesta stans the ones that don't gaf about cassian when his own friend (who he considers a brother) says this about him? i don't think after 500 years of knowing him and liking him nesta would say any of this

(pg. 229) cassian gets mad at rhys for endangering feyre's life for no reason and then rhys says "you would do the same" like nO SIR NO HE WOULDN'T

(pg. 246) feyre says nesta looks older in her eyes. she's obviously been affected by her sister running away with the fae and her and elain even thought she was dead. don't try and tell me that she doesn't care bye

(pg. 255) cassian's dinner table speech about how feyre died for the fae and nesta should stop being a bitch. um, sir your people enslaved hers for CENTURIES? and you want to play the fucking victim? okayyy sure. have fun with that

(pg. 280) rhys doesn't make his people play the tithe but he lets them live in tents in snowy mountains? while he lives in comfort? and im supposed to support this guy? hard pass for me

(pg. 288) rhys stalks about keeping velaris a secret and says "My people do not seem to be suffering much from it." basically ignoring the people in the hewn city and illyria as his people? tehy are all hated by the rest of the courts and apparently rhys is just cool with that bc velaris is fine.

(pg. 326) all i want to say is that cresseida deserves so much better

(pg. 361) okay lol jurian was "obsessive" in his pursuit to free his people. why couldn't he just be chill about it? his people could wait you know. he didn't hav eto go batshit crazy. it's not like they were servants their whole lives and were being treated like they weren't people.

(pg. 377) okay so this is when cassian comes back from giving nesta the letter (wings and ember) and he says something about how the family is full of "bossy, know-it-all females" my mans you invaded HER PERSONAL SPACE and asked her intrusive and inappropriate questions. she literally did what any other woman would have done.

(pg. 386) rhys fully says "neither side is innocent" when talking to the mortal queens BOI THE FAE KEPT THEM AS SLAVES WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND STOP TRYING TO SOUND OPPRESSED OMG

(pg. 393) they are talking about how miryam and drakon fell in love when she was still with jurian and apparently it's jurian's fault bc he was too obsessed with liberating the humans? you can say what you want about them fighting for the humans but it's clear they really don't give a shit

(pg. 398) feyre hears mor's story and says that she understands why rhys can't forgive nesta. she actually just compared what mor's family did (trying to marry off mor and nailing a note to her body and leaving her at the autumn court) to what nesta did (was mean to feyre when their family was in poverty and didn't stop feyre from hunting). chilee wut

(pg. 415) the court of nightmares scene and all i want to say is DID ANYONE IN THE HEWN CITY CONSENT TO SEE THAT. also their high lord using women like objects isn't exactly sending his people the best message, especially the youthful ones. like if their ruler is doing it, then why shouldn't they? rhys is kind of making it worse for women ( at the very least he isn't helping AT ALL)

(pg. 443) mor says that she hates the illyrian mountains and says that they should be "burned to the ground", completely forgetting about all of the people there, the culture and the fact that she has 2 and half illyrian friends

(all of chapter 54) rhys tells us his sad backstory and a bunch of excuses but never apologises for his actions utm. am i supposed to excuse sexual assault because he was emotionally distraught? bc im not going to do that

(pg. 548-553) nesta stands up A LOT for the humans and tries to convince the queens to give them the book. we see a lot of her humanity in this scene. don't tell me she's just a cold bitch please read with your eyes and see for yourself. ALSO THE NESSIAN BIT ON PAGE 553 LETS GOOOO

(pg. 559) feyre talks about how nesta feels everything too much and i just want to ask where this feyre was in acofas when her sister was off in the deep end with her ptsd

(pg. 589) jurian is called a monster for literally no fucking reason omg give my guy a break

(pg. 606) lucien helps elain when she is fae and on the ground soaking wet. this is all before he finds out that she is his mate. this is why we stan <3

please feel free to comment on/challenge anything ive said. you can try and come for my favs if you want but it probably won’t change my mind. i might do acofas later.