#also the Carley but might be wildly out of nowhere
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coolcattime · 2 years ago
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No apologies needed for not leaving all this in the tags! Discussions and analysis are fun! It's always like nice to know when one of my kinda random idea posts have set off brain worms.
I think the interpretation of Capsize having never really known Jordan originally is such a good one, because what Jordan remembered of Capsize is definitely different from how she actually felt about him.
I did originally have a couple of ideas as to how no one would've noticed for the time until Jordan and Tom arrived back, none of which really accounted for Spark looking near identical to Jordan but like putting that aside. The first was that some of the Season 2 characters and the alts did start having questions about her memories and the possibly that she might not remember Jordan properly, but it getting written off by the people who did know her (because she didn't like Jordan, obviously she doesn't want to discuss him) or the evidence looking like coincidences because of stuff like the wedding certificates which Capsize actually didn't know about in the first place (which by the time Tucker is done trying to explain that mess, they've long lost the point that she problem was her not knowing the name on the certificate).
The other idea is one that now makes more sense with your interpretation which is Capsize was just faking it. She has a journal that has some very minimal details about Jordan (mostly annoyance) so she's just doing her best to fake that she definitely does remember Jordan. Then her spilling up on actually seeing him is partly due to everyone calling Jordan something different to the point that she cannot tell that all the names are meant to refer to one person, and partly being excited to see Tom again pushing the lying out of her mind (since I imagine that lying isn't something Capsize generally does).
Though I also don't imagine it being caught before Jordan arrives back would actually make much of a difference besides Jordan not having proof straight away, which could possibly lead to an odd kind of conflict where he doesn't actually believe it, but I'm also not completely sure how that would go.
Honestly, I can very much see Jordan fumbling a second chance with Capsize, if it's a literal one like this were she doesn't remember him. I fully agree with him not realising his actions have consequences (because in a way a lot of them don't, at least not directly to him), and he definitely doesn't see how Capsize actually saw him. I feel like there is the possibility in this situation for someone to knock some sense into Jordan and force some introspection before he messes up with her again, but that would require introspection on his part.
Now your tags!!! God, I really agree with your point that everyone in the Nether was in part responsible for Capsize's death. I will possibly give Tucker the benefit of the doubt for being stuck in a hole for at least part of the situation, but the other three could've and probably should've done something. Like could've definitely have saved her? No, anything could've gone wrong, but them just standing there definitely wasn't going to help.
Honestly I've kinda gotten brain worms from this idea because it reminded me of my annoyance at Carley's death in Telltale's The Walking Dead, where there was definitely enough time to stop her from getting shot, just no opinion for that. I just!!! I want kind squish around in the possible guilt and regret of that moment in the Nether.
It isn't really the narrative line I wanna go down, I think it's much more interesting if Capsize and Jordan get a confrontation, but there's something so sad in my head if post revival Capsize forgot Jordan. Like she remembers that Ianite had a champion and that the champion wasn't her and that they did meet and get back Ianite's heart together, but as a person Jordan is just gone and so are her opinions on him.
No one actually notices until Tom and Jordan actually reappear, a while after everyone else from Season 2, and during the reunion Capsize assumes he's one of Spark's kids. It then takes another minute of her insisting that she has never met him before for them to realise she isn't joking.
And there's just this kind of sadness. Like they obviously want to try and get the memories back (even if someone jokes that her and Jordan will get on better this way than they ever did before), and a couple fuzzy pieces do come back, but there's just this oddness between the two. Because Capsize knows something is missing that she can't figure out, and all the stories (even the ones she reads from her own journal) feel disconnected from herself. And because Jordan, despite having realised they never really got along, wants her to have the memories she's meant to have.
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