#also stop trying to justify the huge age gap by bringing up people irl because

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Three Jokers Spoilers and CW for mentions of trauma

Ok a lot of people like me are very not into JayBabs at all (1. Because she’s too old for him (DC stop deaging her im begging) 2. Babs is being pushed into another random relationship with another random bat boy 3. She was basically his tutor/ babysitter in the past wtf dc) but beyond that THIS SCENE

IS SO MESSED UP FROM A REALISTIC STANDPOINT

Jason in this scene is so vulnerable, he is emotional and looking for validation of being cared about. It is so problematic for this to turn into a kiss, especially without any indication of any romantic intention beforehand. It boggles my mind. He is coming down from a full on break down, feeling very emotional, and has just been told is cared about. For that to immediately be followed up with a kiss is so manipulative, and the last thing Jason needs in that moment. Barbara could be anyone in this scene, at that moment Jason would have let anyone who said those words to him kiss him, because of his trauma. It’s just wrong for the scene to play out like that. This is how abuse victims end up staying with their abusers, it is not romantic. It is a perfect example of how people with trauma end up associating emotional support and validation with romantic, sexual, and physical actions. This scene demonstrates Jason literally hearing “you’re cared about” for the first time and immediately ties it to being kissed. Even if he kissed her, she shouldn’t have let him. It opens people up to being taken advantage of, gaslighting, and all sorts of messed up associations of love, support, and sex. It’s toxic.

And a hero would know that. Barbara Gordon would know that, and she wouldn’t do that even if she was interested in Jason like that (which... where is that build up??? N52?? Because no thank you). She literally spent half the issue trying to tell Bruce to take Jason down (which is another whole can of worms) and suddenly she sees him naked and vulnerable and becomes interested in him?? What??? That’s so fucked.

Point is, Jaybabs aside, this scene is problematic as hell, and Barbara would not do that. It’s poor characterization, and another instance of Babs being made to do out of character shit for the sake of a relationship (I’m so tired).

Also not to be that person but imagine the scene from a swapped perspective, if Jay was the woman and Babs the man. If a fully clothed man (in a super suit no less) had kissed a emotionally traumatized half naked girl in this situation way more people would be calling this out as problematic. Just becbecause Barbara is a hero doesn’t mean this is okay and just because Jason is a man doesn’t mean it’s any less problematic to fetishize his emotional vulnerability. This scene is fucked up (and very ooc for Babs) for more reasons than just jaybab.