#also should note that this argument is perfectly in keeping with ashton as a character
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The idea that the gods should have to justify why they should be allowed to be on Exandria, a place they see as their home, is kind of fucked up, and is also completely unworkable. Like, who gets to decide the standard the gods would have to meet in their argument? Is there going to be some universal decision where everyone is happy and the world doesn't tear itself apart in the process? Because clearly the fact they have already left Exandria to protect mortals, and only work through those who choose to interact with them, is not good enough for a lot of people. Except it is for many, many others on Exandria.
There are millions of people who worship the deities and get a lot from them. Their temples provide healing, resurrection, defences and armies amongst other things. Paladins and clerics have done many thing in service of their gods and the world, not all good of course but there are examples of them doing good in living memory. Imogen and Orym said it best, one person should not get to decide for the entirety of the world. In the same vein, Bell's Hells or anyone else for that matter can't decide that either.
There is no perfect answer or argument in something where opinions vary so much. I understand this was brought up in hypotheticals, but it's still a point that could never feasibly work. Hate the gods all you want, but if your idea is to make them essentially beg to be allowed to stay on their home, when they have already done a lot to ensure they don't hurt mortals anymore, I don't think your argument is in good faith. You just want to feel superior to people you blame for the bad things in your life.
#critical role#cr spoilers#ashton bringing some wild points up in that discussion#glad orym brought up the divine gate at last#if only because they seem to have forgotten about it in all other arguments#also should note that this argument is perfectly in keeping with ashton as a character#i just think it's a bad argument
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