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forever mad that they cut that other take of the rina rain kiss scene like how did they watch the shaking their heads and the little laugh afterwards and the spin hug kiss and the hug after that AND DECIDE TO CUT IT OUT??? are you joking like-
#IT’S SO FLIPPING CUTE ASJHEGDGAORJE#i go insane over that other take#it not making it into the final scene is my roman empire#oh yeah i’m also mad that the show decided to give us s1 seblos promo photos from DELETED scenes i’m sorry but what#hsmtmts#rina#ricky x gina#gina porter#ricky bowen
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Okay but imagine East High doing Addams Family after Ricky, Kourtney and Big Red graduate.
Gomez- Carlos
Morticia- Gina
Wednesday- Emmy
Lucas- Jet
Alice- Ashlyn
Mal- Seb
Like, just imagine it-
Gina and Ashlyn singing Secrets.
Carlos finally having a lead, and also finally getting to sing something in his vocal range.
Seb playing a serious role.
Emmy and Jet/Ashlyn and Seb singing Crazier Than You.
CARLOS AND EMMY BEING A FATHER/DAUGHTER DUO.
Seb and Carlos having that one scene together.
Ashlyn and Maddox dancing backstage during “The Moon and Me” because that’s their song.
Carlos and Gina co-choreographing their own tango.
Jet playing a nerdy, nervous character and it being surprisingly fitting.
ASHLYN SINGING WAITING.
On that note, Ashlyn surprising Seb with all the batshit things she does during the Waiting monologue- she does different things every time to keep him guessing.
…And he gets his revenge by doing funny things to make her break character during Crazier Than You. It works every single time.
And Carlos and Maddox are watching them from backstage and just beaming because god they love their partners so much.
Carlos with a sword. That’s it. That’s the thought.
Gina helping Emmy through the nerves of her first lead lead.
Ricky and Kourtney just blushing from the audience throughout Just Around The Corner and Crazier Than You, respectively.
EJ beaming with pride at his little cousin.
Emmy singing Pulled.
ASHLYN AND CARLOS SPREADING THE ALICE/GOMEZ BESTIE AGENDA, ONE MOMENT OF TERRIFIED EYE CONTACT AT A TIME.
#Also the reason this is after the seniors graduate is because their final show is MEAN GIRLS#and I have all sorts of headcanons for that one#carlos rodriguez#carlos hsmtmts#gina porter#gina hsmtmts#emmy hsmtmts#hsmtmts emmy#jet hsmtmts#hsmtmts jet#ashlyn caswell#ashlyn hsmtmts#seb matthew smith#seb hsmtmts#seblos#madlyn#rina#jetney#hsmtmts
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Ignore that this is a day late (and I'll probably backdate it later) but!
Happy HSMTMTS Appreciation Week :DD!!
Day 1 - Favorite Character
I love them all that I really would be hard pressed to rank them. But, admittedly, Carlos and Seb are at the top lol. Them I couldn't choose between.
However, I currently have walking pneumonia, and while it may keep me walking, it does not keep me able to make posts easily xD. So, I'm going to share a bit of a WIP I started over a year ago and never finished. I wanted to at least start a Seblos fic before season 4 started, as I'd always meant to but never gotten around to it. Both of their characters are immensely important to me, together and separate. I know this seems more fitting for ship day but also consider: I don't care :p. Also, quickly, I'll share a few things a love or relate to about some of the characters.
Kourtney: Love seeing representation of anxiety, especially surrounding college stuff - that's so relatable 😭. And I love that it while it was ongoing, she did eventually find what she wanted (and stuff that helped her anxiety) - even if it took a few tries.
Ashlyn: Absolutely loved seeing her queer journey. As a bi person myself, it was amazing :'). And seeing Carlos welcome her into the community was just <3. Also, I love seeing her confidence grow throughout the show!
EJ: Love that he wasn't the villain forever! I adore EJ, and I'm glad they showed that redemption is totally possible
Gina: So happy to see different lights on her ambition - sometimes bad, sometimes good, but never forget those who are important to you <3. Love that.
Big Red: Another bi realization!! Not happy with how it happened (and I will stay in denial about how it was genuinely accidental or a cheek kiss or something until the day I die), but glad it did, and that he and Ashlyn stayed together for a while after it happened - bi doesn't mean you immediately leave your partner to be gay. Also, Big Red is a really great friend and I love that :').
Ricky: Love seeing the outsider to theatre perspective! Same goes for Big Red. It's such a crazy thing to be thrust into lol. But also, seeing how entrenched and happy he becomes in it and its traditions by the end of the show is :').
Nini: I love that she knows her own worth, and also has to take a minute to find what's best for her. Arts school? Nah, not at the moment. East High? For a bit, and then things changed. Music on her own? Yeah, maybe :'). I do wish she could've been there at the end but in my mind she was <3.
Seb: I honestly love that he gets to be the innocent one and that's okay. As a long-time innocent one (even if I do actually know things just don't talk about/do them lol), it's nice to see him being accepted :'). And of course, the queer representation <3. I'll talk more about that during favorite ship, but especially seeing Seb play with gender presentation is so amazing ❤️.
Carlos: I'm so glad they explicitly said he was bullied, because while I agree that HSMTMTS is overall a positive show and don't want it to be bogged down all the time by negative stuff like that, it's so important to acknowledge. And that going from that, he found his family in theatre :'). Even though he worried that they wouldn't accept him, even though he might've participated before (a common headcanon) and just didn't have it as much, he found it. And again with the ambition - it's not a bad thing to be ambitious :). And, like I've said, the queer representation <33.
Maddox: Not an OG but I don't care :). Once again, love the queer representation, but I also just totally relate to the "too much, too loud" worry. You have great moments with people and then it's "yeah! Cool. . See you next time :')". I'm so glad she found her family <3.
Jet: Also not an OG but again, I don't care :). Another point for redemption, but also that stuff is complicated. He hurt Maddox, even if he didn't intend to, and that's just how it is sometimes. You have to try and do better, and he does :'). Although she also does have to readjust some things, which I love <3. Also just his mistrust of the theatre family - so real, but I'm glad they stick together :').
Emmy: Again not an OG, but I don't care :). I love her silliness and creepiness lol. But also, I so relate to that "younger siblings" energy. And the "I'm trying to hold it together for everyone", especially "I'm trying to hold it together but I'm the young one and I shouldn't have to do this". I've been putting my soul into theatre for years, through some rough times, and I just totally feel her <3.
Mr. Mazzara: Another point for redemption! Also I'm glad he acknowledges later on that he shouldn't have let his personal stuff influence stuff he did or said (in a bad way). It happens to the best of us and it sucks but I love that he acknowledges it :').
Miss Jenn: Feeling lost. My gosh, feeling lost. So relatable. It's terrifying because you have a dream and you want so badly to achieve it, but you also know that you can "fail" and get sent on a totally different path. And that's terrifying. But I'm glad that, after everything, she's happy :'). I so love to see that she doesn't need her big dreams, realizes that while she didn't fail, she's happy just where she is :'). That's okay <3.
Okay those got longer than I thought I'd be up for but yay!! Lastly, I just love that it's about theatre. That they're all involved, some way, with theatre. I know I didn't include side characters but trust me I love them all <3. And I love seeing the different ways everyone is involved in theatre, their different roles and niches and experience levels. It's so great to see, and to see my process, our process, that I'm so familiar with reflected on screen is honestly really important to me :').
Anyway :'D! An excerpt from that fic, now :).
For context, the prompt I was given by my sibling for this fic was something about Seb and a tractor (maybe they specified a broken arm or tractor crash, I really don't remember lol. It was like, exactly a year ago sldkgs). I'm honestly still really proud of these chat sections lol.
Without further ado, enjoy!
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seb <3: it’s broken
carlos <3: AND YOU’RE PROBABLY OKAY???
carlos <3: seb oh my gosh 😭
carlos <3: are you okay??
seb <3: my arm’s broken lol
carlos <3: you know what I mean sebastian
seb <3: out here full naming me while I’m down
carlos <3: I say it with love
seb <3: not this time 🤨
carlos <3: okay I’m sorry but seb please 😭
seb <3: okay okay
seb <3: I feel fine right now they gave me meds before casting it
seb <3: which is on for 6 weeks
seb <3: and ironically on these meds I can’t operate heavy machinery lol
carlos <3: oh my gosh seb 😭 I’m so sorry
seb <3: it’s fine but thank you love :)
seb <3: we’re gonna need another pianist for rehearsal though
carlos <3: ashlyn plays we’ll be fine
seb <3: ashlyn’s in it though??
carlos <3: so are you???
seb <3: right
seb <3: not only am I not allowed to drive I am also confusion 😌
carlos <3: seb this is not funny 😭
seb <3: it kinda is though
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In case you're wondering about the timeline, it's vague and in a hypothetical season 4, I believe lol. So, if I were wanting to keep it canon compliant, it would probably be the spring show after HSM 3 xD.
I hope you enjoyed!
See you "tomorrow" (today) for Day 2!!
Happy HSMTMTS Appreciation Week everybody :D!!
#hsmtmts#hsmtmtsweek24#hsmtmtsnet#high school musical the musical the series#seblos#oasis's hsmtmts chatter#:')) it's been too long since I tagged that <33#I really hope I can be more active in the fandom in the future because I do love this show so much#if I were to pick lile A Show not to be my favorite but like the one that impacted/changed me the most I'd probably have to say hsmtmts#anyway <333 I love them all :'))#also I really don't feel too bad about falling asleep and not posting this on time lol because. the aforementioned pneumonia xDD#anyway!!#I love you all :DDD ❤️❤️❤️❤️!!!!#byeeee :))) 🥰🥰🥰🥰 <333!!!!
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actually idc I’m fucking pissed about redlyn breaking up just so they could end up in same sex relationships as a bi person I LOVED seeing these two realize that they’re bi but they loved each other and were in a m/f relationship and they just immediately stripped that away again and it just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth
#also as a bi jew seeing these two bi Jews in a relationship meant so much two me so uuuuh fuck tim federle for this#also I just truly love redlyn as a couple#and the whole cheating plot line was so fucking dumb#also Tim federle IS aware that two queer characters that could technically be together don’t HAVE to be together right?#like sure madlyn is ok but I’d honestly rather see more of their dynamic as friends instead of making them a couple just because they’re#both sapphic#like seblos I don’t have anything against apart from the very ooc cheating plot obv but why does big red suddenly have to date#fucking antoine??? like I love the abf was in the last ep and sure it was funny but also why????😭#Tim really does NOT seem to know how to write single people#anyways yeah that’s my rant on this#oh also having the one bi character cheat and the other one almost cheat is also kinda iffy tbh#a rambles#hsmtmts spoilers
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ngl seb's expression when carlos starts singing is singlehandedly making me a seblos shipper
theyre literally so in love with each other and everyone overlooks it. THEY'RE LITERALLY THE LONGEST STANDING SHIP IN THE WHOLE OF HSMTMTS. THINK ABOUT THAT.
#they're so perfect for each other its insane#also this song is just insane i cry and sing it in the shower#seblos
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let’s live inside this moment (forget about forever) - part 3.1
��� mini seblos au
part 2!
#hsmtmts#high school musical the musical the series#carlos rodriguez#seb matthew smith#seblos#llitm au#asterisks in photo 4 are “seb and carlos fighting”#also this part was 31 images so ill link the second half!
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Okay... umm... thoughts?
#hsmtmts#hsmtmts s4#seblos#carlos rodriguez#seb matthew smith#joe serafini#frankie rodriguez#joe and frankie#im personally disappointed and heartbroken and if anyone wants to talk im here#also if anyone wants to convince me that what they did to seb was fine im so ready to discuss
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I like High School Musical The Musical The Series but I think I like it wrong?? I don't care about Nini that much. Don't like Ricky. Indifferent to Rina. Don't even like most of the original music. I didn't like the show much season 1, I only got invested S2 because I love Ashlyn and became the most obsessed in S3. My favourite ships are Madlyn and Miss Jenn with that one IT teacher who wasn't even in the most recent season. I am here solely for Maddox at this point and she only showed up S3. Help
#also obviously i love seblos ofc but theyre just a given#madlyn#hsmtmts#high school musical the musical the series#SO LOVE GINA THO BTW. May be partially rina-averse BC I was a S2 portwell stan I still think they did us dirty 😔
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[ID: the first image is a screenshot of a Tumblr Q&A banner. the heading is HSMTMTS and the subheading says “the final season Q&A” beneath that is a button that says “Ask a question”
the second image is a screenshot of an unsent ask that says, "c an we get gini endgame p lease pleasee i'm begging you pl" /End ID.]
still manifesting a season 4 gini rain kiss tbh 🙏
#pretty sure olivia's gone from the show and good for her!!#but also gini shouldve been endgame idc#haven't watched anything past 2x01 but i will forever be a gini redky seblos warrior 💪#hello grace here#ok i'm going to bed now idk why i'm still awake. if you see me up liking posts at midnight again just know i'm trying my best and my best i#not enough to sleep through the night#(did not actually send this ask btw ik they would've just ignored it anyway)
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I'd even dare to say it was the best song from the whole series.
Let's be dramatic, we have every right to be!!!
Over Again
I don't care what anyone says: Over Again was the best song from S4. No, do not debate with me because I will not hear it. Being a Seblos stan since 2021 has made me want a duet from them and I finally got it. I actually cried listening to it for the first time... it was 7am in the morning and my brother thought I was being dramatic.
Guess what? I'll be dramatic because Over Again >>>>>
#we deserve it#we wanted this for so long and we finally got it we have every right to be dramatic over it#seblos#over again#joe serafini#frankie rodriguez#im obsessed with these two#as characters and as real life people#and i wish more people would appreciate this song and them#i feel like seblos stans moved on? where are y'all?#also i know there's wondering and rising that are masterpieces but like over again was prayed for and hoped for for so long
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seblos moodboard (evolution inspired) - made aug 2024
after reading the sabrina carpenter discord qotd yesterday asking what sabrina song reminds me of my favourite ship i came to the realisation that i didn’t have a single sabrina song in my seblos playlist (criminal) and after thinking of songs on the spot 2/4 of them were from her album evolution so then i was like, let’s make a seblos moodboard inspired by evolution by sabrina carpenter! and let’s make it double! an fluffy and angsty side :)
#after almost a year the hsmtmts album moodboards have returned! and they’ve had a glow up#decided to switch things up this time around but i love the look of it#i also referenced all evolution songs but one which is cool!#may make more hsmtmts sabrina inspired moodboards since we’re on the countdown to short n sweet but don’t take my word for it#hsmtmts#seblos
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Let's talk about the car scene and the introduction of the Rina cue. The chemistry in Josh and Sofia's performances is powerful enough to really draw the audience into that scene, but the Rina cue is what makes it magical on a whole new level (this scene is the truest example of Disney magic in this season, imo). It starts gently, nearly inaudible, and softly builds as Gina clarifies to Ricky (and herself, really) that she truly meant that he brings something special to the theater space. Then it enters the primary melody when she kisses his cheek, highlighting the unexpected yet tender nature of her doing so. Finally, the countermelody takes over, slowly releasing the musical tension as Ricky slowly processes what just happened. This music strongly communicates that something really unexpected, really sincere, and really special just happened.
I remember watching this scene for the first time in 2019 and being shocked that I hadn't heard that music used in the show yet, since it was the most beautiful piece of the score. I was intentionally listening for it to show up again for the rest of the season, only for it to be used once more in S1 in another scene between Ricky and Gina. I thought that choice was peculiar at the time, since there was another ship that was the "main ship" of that season.... so why would the most beautiful and tender leitmotif only be used twice, and why would it only be used in scenes between Ricky and Gina? Well, we now know why it's both so beautiful and only used for Rina scenes! It was literally written with more intention and for Ricky and Gina per Tim's instruction.
Also, that this scene finishes out the episode really maintains the poignancy of that scene. There were two other major couples introduced in this episode (MikeJenn and Seblos), yet Ricky and Gina were the ones who finished out the episode. The real cliffhanger of the episode is the voicemail from Principal Gutierrez, so that scene could have concluded the episode instead and been swapped with the final car scene.... that's actually a very common story structure on this show, which is why it's so unique that the episode ends with something more sincere and emotionally resonant. I really think that narrative choice shows that there's a shift in this scene. Something really meaningful just happened, and the audience is allowed to really feel it and understand it as something deeper than just a narrative thread to create drama.
#the car scene is still in my top 3 Rina moments#it will ALWAYS be loved by me#hsmtmts#Ricky x Gina#Rina#Ashlyn commentates
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I'M SORRY THEY TOOK THE P I A N O??!?!!!?
#FRANKIE#JOE#WHY SLFKFJDLKS XDDD#but yk what that is SO valid#also y'all N E E D to watch their queerty interview xDD it's AMAZING#I love them so much lol#hsmtmts#oasis's hsmtmts chatter#seblos#frankie rodriguez#joe serafini#y'all xD#seriously that is SO HILARIOUS XDD#I can't y'all lol#them <3
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my hsmtmts hot takes:
i did not care about rina in the slightest until season 4
seblos (as a ship/couple) is just sort of...there for me. i have no big feelings towards or against them. they're definitely cute, they just don't stay on my mind
though i loved the fashion upgrade that came with it, i hated the way kourtney was written in season 4
i don't care about madlyn that much (i also don't like call it what you want all that much)
season 4's hsm3 songs were not done well (save for can i have this dance, high school musical (the finale), dani's high school musical, and now or never (auditions)) the mixing was bad, they had dara sing too high for i want it all and the singing itself just wasn't that good
^i loved most of the original songs tho
they should've never brought in any of the original hsm actors (save for kaycee and lucas in s1) they made a corbin a twisted version of himself in s3 and the rest of the actors in s4 were so overhyped just for them to barely be there
i actually liked portwell together. they both seemed so happy and i will never forgive the writers for building them up just to ruin them in s3
^speaking of s3 portwell, i will also never forgive this fandom for treating ej like he was some old man preying on a child and treating him like the villain (this is a rant by itself so we'll tackle that some other time)
i've never liked nini (or rini)
the rina hat only works because they got together in the end. imagine if a friend put a secret love confession in a gift for you and you find it after both of you get with someone else. i just find it weird to do that sort of thing when you don't even know if there's mutual feelings
i was on ricky's side during most of the rini discourse (save for him going behind nini's back and getting her a part when she didn't want one and deleting the insta comment)
while i love both jennzzara and jetney, both of them were quickly thrown together at the end with hints that there were crushes in the air for both of them
i will forever hate that they chose frozen as s3's musical. the only songs i liked were what do you know about love and love is an open door
for a show about students putting on a musical, they really just did not show a lot of the musicals
^for s2, i've been giving them a pass because it was during the first year of covid so they were probably limiting how long people could be dancing around without masks (but i was still robbed of belle's yellow dress on ashlyn and ej and biggie playing gaston and lefou)
and finally, this show pairs people up so fast with no real development for either the people or the couple itself. the show really could've benefited from growing their characters without a relationship being the driving force and then worked on building romantic relationships once they figured out what to do with each character
#if you agree lemme know#if you disagree lemme know too (just be respectful and don't start fuming at me)#im really out here being brave and for what? this fandom is clinging to life at this point#ricky bowen#nini salazar roberts#gina porter#ej caswell#rini#rina#portwell#seblos#carlos rodriguez#seb matthew smith#kourtney greene#jetney#madlyn#jennzzara#miss jenn#mr mazzara#hsmtmts jet#high school musical#high school musical 3#ashlyn caswell#hsmtmts maddox#i was put on this earth to speak my truth in the privacy of my home from behind a screen#and i will do just that#hsmtmts#high school musical the musical the series#tell me why i forgot to tag the actual show itself...#frozen
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I do think Tim’s decision to wrap up the show was a good decision especially with the strikes happening at the moment. However, I feel like there was still so much more stories to tell with the characters and so much more that they could have done if we got another season.
Some things I wished we could have seen this season and if we got a season 5:
A prom episode: I would’ve loved to see how rina, madlyn, seblos asked each other to prom. I feel like prom episodes always bring some sort of drama as well so that would be interesting to see how that played out!
More focus on Ricky’s future: I wish we got more of a focus on Ricky deciding what he wanted to do in the future. We did get a little in season 4 but i felt like it was a bit rushed. I was really happy with how they handled Kourtney’s college storyline this season though!
Kourtney and Jet: I understand this season has already so much going on so it was hard to flesh out Jetney but if we did get a season 5, I would’ve loved to see them more and their dynamic.
Boys and Back and Just Wanna Be With You: I feel ROBBED !! I wish we could’ve gotten these performances this season. I feel like they had plans to preform them but because of time constraints they couldn’t. Also Jet mentions the place he felt the happiest was preforming the Boys and Back with Ricky, it would’ve been nice to see the moment he told he realised that and not just have it told to us.
Emmy: if we got a season 5, I would’ve loved for us to learn more about Emmy. She was so funny this season !!
Maddox and Jet: same as the last point. As Maddox said in episode 406 they just got here and I wish we could’ve learned more about the both of them and even regarding Jet why did he get expelled? How’s their home life?
I loved season four so so so much!! I believe they wrapped it up the best they could as well! I just want more of the wildcats on my screen. I hope we get a movie/spin-off or something !!
#high school musical the series#hsmtmts#rina hsmtmts#hsmtmts s4#ricky bownen#gina porter#ricky x gina#rina#hsm the series#jet hsmtmts#jet x kourtney#kourtney greene#ashlyn caswell#madlyn#seblos
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let’s live inside this moment (forget about forever) - prologue
— mini seblos au
#llitm au#hsmtmts#high school musical the musical the series#seblos#carlos rodriguez#seb matthew smith#the prologue is tiny but there will be 8 full length updates and then a prologue :D#epilogue* 🧍 i’m not retyping all that#also am i supposed to link previous parts somewhere on tumblr??#they’ll be labelled so i feel like it’s self explanatory the order lol
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