#also regarding the triplets hc: I think specs is also good with children but they make him nervous

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Logan/ David kinda grew on me and I want to know more about what you think of them lol

(Also want more content for David too cuz he deserves better)

I actually read a fic once where they were dating and that's. All it took for me to warm up to the idea! So it makes me happy to see that there are other ppl interested in them too.

I like to think they met at the hospital tbh! We know from the original short film that David was an orderly at a hospital (which I actually HC to be Angel of Mercy, aka Lawrence's original place of work - part of this is also bc I think it'd be absolutely hysterical if Adam AND David both nabbed themselves a hot doctor At The Same Hospital) and that Logan has a medical background (not just as a medical examiner, but possibly also as an x-ray technician, if we take into consideration the fact that he was the one to accidentally switch John's x-rays), so I think it makes sense for them to have met that way. I kind of see it as like... David making the first move? Because I think Logan would still be a bit tepid toward the concept of dating after Christine; he loved her so much and we see that in canon, so I think it'd have to be David to make the suggestion.

I HC them both as bi, though I believe that David probably has more experience with dating men than Logan does. The way I see that happening, as I feel David is pretty laid-back and chill (at least before his test), is he literally just walks up to him like "Hey, I know we've spoken a little bit before, and I know we're not super close, but would you maybe wanna do dinner sometime?" and Logan just sort of has the response of, "...Like a date?" because he doesn't really have a lot of experience here, with dating men OR dating again in general, as I believe he probably didn't date for a long time following his wife's death. When David confirms that's what he meant, though, I feel like Logan would have this little internal dialogue of me??? You want to go out with me???, but verbally he just goes, "Yeah, sure," and they make plans!

Their relationship in general is healing for both of them; personal HC time again: I think David has probably had,, some Experiences when it comes to dating, both because he's trans and people suck, and because, like Adam (though again this is Another HC), I think he probably has trouble with discerning when people are Shitty. However, Logan is kind, respectful both to David himself and of his boundaries, and he just understands. They already have the whole Jigsaw Survivor mess in common, and I think that they both haven't really... processed that? Or at the very least, David hasn't, so talking about their experiences candidly with someone they know has at least Some understanding of that they've been through is very, very healing for both of them. There's no judgment, no unnecessarily rude questions, and they feel safe with each other.

For me I see them being really sweet!! Maybe not quiiite to the level of Adam and Lawrence, as I think they're both more reserved in that respect, but there's definitely no shortage of sappiness, ESPECIALLY from Logan. Lots of petnames, casual touches, leaving little post-it notes for each other around the apartment/house, frequent "I love you"s, the works. Even when David stops working as an orderly following his test, he still comes in almost every day on Logan's lunch break to spend time with him and will often bring a little something with him. They're super easy-going, and there's a lot of affectionate teasing as well. They laugh a lot, which is a bit foreign for both of them, but it's a welcome change.

I think David would be good with Melissa once he and Logan are serious enough for them to be introduced - I HC Adam and David, at least, to be good with children, though neither of them are sure why lol. I think he'd be very conscious of her feelings, because he knows that he's not Christine (not that Logan OR Melissa would expect him to be), that it's probably a bit of an adjustment for her to see her dad dating again, and I really think he'd be sure to treat her the opposite way his parents treated him, because David Knows what shitty parents are like. Overall this leads to them bonding after a bit of time to adjust to the change, and they become quite close! I think it would take quite a bit for her to feel comfortable with doing so, definitely a few years, but eventually she asks if she can call him dad and David has a bit of a meltdown later that night with Logan over it because!! What the hell he's a dad!! She wants to call him dad!! All Logan can do while David is babbling is smile because Wow That Is A Lot Of Emotions. It's all good though!!

Something interesting here, though, is that if we consider Jigsaw 2017 as canon (which,, I know not a lot of ppl enjoyed that movie but I Did,,), then as the original creator of the Reverse Bear Trap, Logan is indirectly responsible for David's test. I don't think he was all that involved in the games - I think for the most part John took care of that before recruiting (blackmailing) Hoffman - but he still created the thing. Because of this, I typically prefer to ship them in a Non-Disciple!AU, as that is A Lot for them to work through otherwise. It's kind of on par with the idea of Adam finding out Lawrence is a disciple - the knowledge would create a rift that would be damn near, if not entirely, unrepairable, and if their relationship could survive such a revelation, it would undoubtedly be irreversably altered. It would take a LONG time to earn that trust back. Personally I think (again, just like Adam) that it would cause David to break things off permanently, not just because his boyfriend has been working with/previously worked with Jigsaw, but also because He Created David's Trap. I just don't think David could move on from that. Likewise, I think Logan would be absolutely devastated but completely understanding of Why David felt that way.

Another scenario that pops into my head when thinking about that though is since Logan wasn't really involved with the games, there's a good possibility that while he created the RBT, he might not have even known David would be tested, much less that he'd be tested by his own creation. I personally don't see Logan as having a very big part in Anything until Jigsaw 2017, just because he had Christine and Melissa to worry about & because he wasn't interested in that side of things, so it would make sense that he would have no knowledge of John's plan to test David. There would still be some issues, especially on the trust front as David isn't sure he can even trust that Logan is telling the truth, but there miiight be some hope there? Only if Logan stays completely out of it afterwards (aka, not hosting his own game/killing Edgar). I haven't thought too much about this side of things but there's that.

Overall I think of them as being very happy, with more than one avenue of understanding between them, and I see their relationship as being particularly healing in more than one way. The kind of couple where they might as well be married if they're not already lmao!! David is very good with Melissa and that always warms Logan's heart (he takes Melissa's opinion on things, Especially dating, into consideration always), and David loves that he has a little family now <3 I love them your honour. Thank you for this ask + I'm sorry it took me so long to reply!! (+ I agree wholeheartedly that there should be more David content + that he deserves better!!)