#also not to be that guy anon but you keep using the wrong acronym for the fic

[melonpalooza]

If tldr character's play horror game. Who will die first and who will be the survivor. And which one of them will get posessed/Stuck/left behind. And most importantly which idiot will be playing the game unsurious, for example :

leading the monster towards their friends probably secrifice their own teammates for fun. Forgeting their mission and died by their own stupid action

(we always have that one teammates that Will do anything just for fun even if it meant losing the game)

(The game : phasmaphobia,dead by daylight, in silent, identity V, pacify etc anything horror multiplayer survival-escape game )

the fic has a lot of characters lmao... god. this is gonna be a doozy of an answer, anon. i'm going to start rambling and might not even get all the characters. also altho you say horror games, phasmo and dbd/identity v are very different genres in terms of gameplay lmao so forgive me if i jump around the games bc im just typing the first things that come to my head

i feel like how they handle the games depends on who they team up with, bc i know depending on who i play with, the objective of my gameplay changes.

if it's mostly donnies, they will take the game most seriously i feel like. they're prepared, have game plans and divide up the responsibilities. will do research before hand rather than jump into a game. like they have to know all the game's mechanics before they start playing. if they're the hunter, i feel like they're really meticulous, but they won't spawn camp the hooks in dbd for example. except ig reugrat donnie he has the trolling energy to me.

mil/cope/rugrat raph prefers playing the hunter. they're aggressive and will sometimes target specific players if they were screwed over in a previous game by them xD most of them will go for leo lol. all of them will always try to stun or attack the attacker/aggro the hunter as a survivor.

cope mikey would fool around most of the game (like yell at the ghost in phasmo, calling it names and stuff) unless it's like less than half of the survivors are left and if he's still alive. all the mikeys get jumpscared easily. neon mikey might get distracted looking at assets or smth. all of them are relatively good at juking in dbd, so they'll be the ones that take ppl off hooks. 03 mike has insanely good luck in hiding where the hunter doesn't find him. rugrat mikey definitely leads the hunter to teammates on purpose.

all the leos would put the team before them, so they're often the ones that becomes bait and self sacrifice—if most of the team makes it out it's a net positive game for them.

if neon leon and neon don are both survivors tho, it's 50/50 they try to sabotage or help each other. if one of them is the hunter, they try to take out the other and it's a W for them if they take out their twin no matter the ending result of the match

and just as i write this i realized that they can't play interdimensionally lol (they could play games like scrabble and uno, bc those would be relatively easy to code into the server's bot i feel like. they can play games like chess bc it's part of discord. so that means they can play gartic lmao. but ig how they play holds true to their own brothers anyway)

anyway my brain is tired now there's probably more somewhere in the think tank

[yakityyaku]

Probably because you guys are absolutely twisting what Kahlem has said into something she hasn't said. She literally said she supported you guys and you deserve equal rights. You guys are throwing hissy fits over being able to say ACAB, which cursing has always been against the rules, and not having a same sex leaf/pride items, and then twisting it to be Kahlem is a homophobe in which she is not.

*cracks knuckles* ok let's do this

First of all, what words are being twisted? She never said she supports the LGBT community. She was asked several times to say the specific words "I support the LGBT community and believe they should have equal rights" and she never said it. She just kept saying everyone was welcome on Mweor. Those are not the same thing. There's no valid reason to not say specifics.

"But she was being bullied into saying it!"

If you asked me if I think homeless puppies should be given a home, or that kids with cancer should get medical support, or whatever else and told me to say those things word for word, I'm not going to get pissy and tell you no and say I'm being bullied. I might be concerned that my stance on those issues wasn't clear! But I'd still say it. It's not bullying to ask someone to speak up.

You shouldn't NEED any level of force to say something that should be very much be supported. The fact that she danced around a human rights question, considered being asked to answer the question bullying, and then NEVER made the actual statement we wanted is exactly what happened and if she won't tell us verbatim that she specifically supports our community and our rights NOT just our use of her website that she makes at LEAST a year's worth of minimum wage on per year as profit alongside her actual sources of income then what else are we supposed to assume? Words and actions correlate anon.

A company will not say it doesn't want x minority buying their product because they want to profit off of them, but that doesn't mean they're not supporting people and other businesses who directly lead to the hurt and discrimination against said minority.

Nobody is twisting her words, we made a pretty fucking easy conclusion based on logic, our experiences as a community historically, what we DO know about Kahlem, and just common sense.

Give me one good reason why you wouldn't specifically say you supported a marginalized group if you actually did support them. Explain to me how a simple request being repeated over and over is bullying. Explain why she wouldn't comply before it even became a big deal.

Next, I don't know why you're throwing this out to me because A I never posted ACAB anywhere on the site and said in an answer I understand why using the acronym caused warnings. You're lumping all of us into one group and not bothering to read anything anyone is saying to you because you made your mind up a long time ago yet still have the gall to pretend you're being rational and logical when you refuse to absorb a single word of new information that doesn't support your opinion.

I already discussed my stance on the ACAB issue and what the actual problem with it was, so you're welcome to search for it in the tag it shouldnt be too far down. I'm sure you won't though because you're just baiting.

Also, again, I dont give a fuck about the items. I don't make pairs. I suck at it and don't like my mweors looking similar. I would have likely never used the breeding leaf to begin with. Pride items are cute and should exist, but they don't fit my aesthetic and I don't even use the Lioden ones and likely wouldn't use any on Mweor either.

You once again have made a broad stroke assumption that this is about items. It isnt. The problem is it took several years for her to address one of if not the most supported suggestions on the site and only chose to when someone tipped her off thay people were sick of 0 transparency from her and felt her utter lack of engagement with the site and it's posts showed her inability to run the site efficiently.

Derivative from that were the years old rumors of her homophobia fostered by the furry paws incident which stoked fear that she was denying the leaf for homophobic reasons. Then she decided she couldnt say she supported the lgbt community. Dots are connected. It doesn't take a detective to see how this all correlates

And best for last, her husband. Yeah, people who aren't racist, homophobic, ableist, and otherwise bigoted morons LOVE neonazis! Her marrying someone who posts and is active in neonazi communities and the horrible branches of their beliefs is pretty obvious evidence she is at least ambivalent to these issues which is just as wrong as actively engaging.

This information is laid out everywhere for you. Again, I'm not going to keep repeating myself. If you have specific questions you are welcome to ask, but if you're going to decide my stance on everything and ignore easily accessible answers then you're clearly sealioning and I'm not going to waste anymore time trying to get information into your thick skull. If you don't think shes in the wrong, fine, but you're not convincing anyone else here of that and frankly I don't give a frogs fat ass

[toycarousel]

Advice??? I'm bisexual but my roommate is a lesbian who keeps making passive aggressive comments about how being bi is bullshit and not even on the lgbtq spectrum .

Hi there, Anon~!!! I’m happy to offer any advice I can... I can definitely offer my opinions.  And what your roommate is saying (and consequently putting you through) is wrong, unkind, and very exclusionist.  If bisexuals didn’t “deserve” to be part of the LGBT+ movement, then they wouldn’t still be suffering nasty comments (like hers) today.

Also a lot of the people who started what we call “the gay movement” were bisexual trans women of colour.  They liked men and women, but wanted to be able to express themselves in a variety of ways, with a variety of terms (not necessarily the same words we use today), and form a community that could be a sort of safe space for anyone who was not 100% cisgender and heterosexual, for people who have identities that were not idealized by society at the time (and still aren’t).  

This is an excellent article about how bisexual people have been here from the start of whatever movement we want to call “the gay movement,” and have always been on the front-lines, not just fighting for their own rights, but for the rights of gay and lesbian people too:

https://www.autostraddle.com/weve-always-been-here-honoring-bisexual-history-imagining-bisexual-futures-308423/

For your roommate to say that you don’t have a place in the community is absurd, and simply shows her insecurities.  A lot of gay and lesbian specific folks seem to fear bisexuals for a variety of reasons that aren’t fair to bisexuals themselves.  There’s fear that bisexual people are just straight people pretending to like their own gender “for attention,” or to be trendy, there are fears that bisexual people will always leave their same-gender partners for someone of another gender.  There’s just... so much fear, and so many unsubstantiated assumptions.

Bisexual people are not “half straight” or “half gay.” You have your own, valid sexuality.  It’s not “playing the field,” as bisexual people are no more likely to cheat within monogamous relationships than gay or straight people are.  

Honestly... I think that because we’ve been terrorized into believing that we’re subpar, as homosexual (speaking as a gay guy), we like to have a scapegoat, or another group(s) of people that we can play the superiority role over, the way cisgender and heterosexual people can play it over us, due to ingrained social power (even if they don’t mean to, you know?)

Your roommate is being unkind to you, and she is out of line in spitting in the faces of all the bisexual people who have historically worked toward her rights as well as theirs, and those of everyone else who does fit into the acronym (which, imo, is anyone who has a sexuality and/or gender that is not typically recognized as the default, or which is actively degraded by the dominant combo of sexuality and gender at the time).

She’s being her own worst enemy.  And that’s tragic... I hope she learns and moves forward, but if she doesn’t, the best thing you can do is hold onto the fact that you do belong, you have a right to be here, your sexuality is valid, and this whole, entire community was also built by bisexual people (and sometimes sparked by bisexual people), alongside gay and lesbian people.  The fact that we alienate each other like this (gay and lesbian people against bisexual people, cisgender LBG+ people against anyone transgender, LGBT people against asexual folks...) is divisive and makes us all weaker in the end.  We are far less likely to meet our goals if we keep pitting ourselves against each other; against would-be allies, and people who share a lot of our experiences.

So, that’s my perspective on that sort of attitude (and I’ve seen it again and again).  As for what you can do, well, maybe open a dialogue with her based on resources you can find as to what bisexuals have done for the LGBT+ community historically (it’s a lot), how bisexuals have been there since the beginning, and why you all 100% belong here~!!!! It doesn’t have to be a fight or argument, it can simply be “hey, I know you feel this way, and I want to hear what you have to say; and, I also want to be able to share my own perspectives and experiences with you, so maybe we can come to understand each other better.”

Here are a couple more resources about bisexual people during LGBT+ history (based on a quick Google search), but if you ever want me to help you dig up more, I’ll be happy to do further research~!!!

https://bisexual.org/the-bisexual-warriors-of-the-gay-movement/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/feb/15/bisexuality-lgbt-history-month

Best of wishes, Anon, and hopefully, if she cannot change her perspective, your roommate can at least learn to respect your perspectives and experiences, as well as your basic humanity.  She does have to agree with facts, she doesn’t have to feel a certain way, but she should at least be willing to stop talking/behaving that way about/around you~!!! That’s just basic decency.