#also my extensive sensory issues i hate the sensation of food in my body and im also prescribed laxatives so. yeah. take that as you will
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rigormortisangel · 4 months ago
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"but if youre skinny why do you have an eating disorder" those two things are not related
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sui-senka · 8 years ago
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Part 2 of determining my type
Why I see myself as INxP, as opposed to something else. So essentially; as you've figured out I'm talking about INFP and INTP. Initially - I tested as INFP and ENFP, then I tested as INFJ and everything else went downhill from there and I tested as everything else. (I basically had an existential crisis - No joke) My current profile type of 16personalities is INTP. Both types share 2 functions in common - Auxiliary Ne and Tertiary Si. @mbti-notes defines auxiliary Extroverted intuition as: "Auxiliary Ne (INxP): Dominant Ti and Fi have a tendency to be far too narrow in their judgments because of possessing overly individualistic beliefs and values, so Ne should be used to explore and visualize a greater range of ideas about what is possible in order to expand knowledge about the world beyond the personal. When a person struggles with developing the Ne function, they struggle between wanting to preserve individual freedom and independence versus recognizing the need to change and improve one’s relationship to the world. Without healthy Ne, INxPs often make unrealistic judgments that are implicitly marred by bias or self-centeredness because they cannot see beyond their own limited conceptualizations. Repressing Ne: closed-minded and unimaginative, tendency towards pessimism, lazy or apathetic or passive, unable to consider alternative possibilities, cannot make good progress in life (though you desperately want to) Overindulging Ne: impractical and unrealistic, unable to tell the difference between fantasy and reality, tendency to idealize and ignore signs of danger, cannot face negative consequences, prone to being addicted to mental stimulation, too easily distracted to learn in depth Healthy Ti-Ne: Your main goal is to understand cause and effect with precision so that you can prevent problems, fix inaccuracies, and avoid causing problems. Ne should help you mentally manipulate variables and visualize a variety of solutions so that you can better calculate which solution is most likely to lead to the best outcome. You prioritize the need to explore conceptual knowledge in order to find solutions that can maximize improvement and progress. Healthy Fi-Ne: Your main goal is to understand the depth of human experience so that you can always maintain personal and moral integrity in your value system. Ne should help you visualize different possibilities for realizing human potential so that you can approach human problems with more flexibility and imagination. You prioritize the need to explore conceptual knowledge in order to find interesting ways to foster personal growth and well-being." Here's more from the INTP and INFP pages: "INFPs’ Auxiliary Function: Extraverted Intuition (Ne) INFPs use Extraverted Intuition (Ne) as their auxiliary function. Ne can function either perceptively or expressively. The verbal expression of Ne amounts to something like “brainstorming aloud.” When orating, NPs may not always seem to “have a point” as they haphazardly move from one idea to the next. Even ideas that seem inwardly cogent to the INFP may suddenly sound incoherent when they attempt to convey them through their Ne. In its receptive role, Ne prompts INFPs to gather information. Ne does not merely gather overt information as Se does. Se is more straightforward, involving a direct apprehension of information through one or more of the primary senses. Ne is different in that it goes beyond or looks behind sense data. This allows INFPs to discern otherwise hidden patterns, possibilities, and potentials. Their Ne is constantly scanning for relationships or patterns within a pool of facts or experiences. INFPs commonly employ the receptive side of their Ne in activities such as reading, researching, and conversing with others. They enjoy asking questions that allow them to gain insight or knowledge from others, often making INFPs good facilitators of conversation. Its extraverted nature makes Ne more divergent, extensive, and open-ended than its introverted cousin, Ni. Ni is more intensive and convergent, conferring a greater sense of conviction and closure. Once Ni has done its work, INJs are more apt to feel there is a single correct solution. NPs, on the other hand, because of the divergent nature of Ne, seem to disposed to multiplying rather than reducing the number of options or possibilities. INFPs also use their Ne to sniff out intriguing possibilities. They commonly enjoy and assume the role of wanderer or seeker. Rarely do they know in advance exactly what they are seeking, which is partly why they find operating in Ne mode so exhilarating. Ne involves a sense of blind anticipation and expectation, of not knowing who or what will manifest next in their life journey. Ne also confers an open-mindedness. It helps INFPs see truth on both sides of an issue without forming unwarranted judgments or premature conclusions, including an openness to alternative or Bohemian lifestyles. INFPs are among those most likely to suddenly become vegetarians, join a commune, or decide to live out of the back of a van. They often fancy the notion of a “raw” or organic lifestyle. Like INTPs, INFPs have a love-hate relationship with their Ne. They love the fact that it helps them remain open-minded, to see the bigger picture, and to see the value of different options or perspectives. INFPs also enjoy the sense of adventure, expectancy, and wonderment toward life’s mysteries that their Ne confers, of not knowing who or what will manifest next in their life journey. But living with Ne also has its challenges. For one, it can make it difficult for INFPs to arrive at firm conclusions or make important decisions. It often seems that at the very moment they are feeling good about a given conclusion or decision, their Ne steps in and causes them to start doubting it again. This has obvious implications for INFPs who are trying to find their niche in the world. It can cause them to feel discouraged and restless, worried that they may never find what they are looking for. They may feel frustrated by their seeming lack of progress toward anything substantial. INFPs’ Tertiary Function: Introverted Sensing (Si) Unlike, Ne or Se, Introverted Sensing (Si) is a conservative function. It involves a strong attachment to past precedent—to the routine, familiar, and predictable. Those with Si in their functional stack often eat a relatively bland or at least consistent diet. Since Si types “eat to live” rather than “live to eat,” they are less likely to overeat or consider themselves “foodies” than Se types. Si types are not only conservative with regard to their diet, but with respect to the material world in general. They are less apt to lather on make-up or concern themselves with current styles and fashions, opting for a more “natural” and less embellished appearance. Many INFPs end up as vegetarians, eat organic or whole foods, and sport a bohemian lifestyle. Like other Si types, they have less of a need for novel physical pleasures, lavish surroundings, or material comforts. This tendency toward material conservationism can also be seen in the creative and artistic approaches of NP types. Their approach often entails creative reuse or recombination of (Ne) existing resources (Si) to make something new. While this commonly involves the use of organic or natural materials, they are also known to supply their creative projects with items from thrift shops or garage sales. A most overlooked feature of Si is its perception of internal bodily sensations—the body as felt and experienced from within. More than any other function, Si perceives a raw and basic sense of “being” that exists apart from thought or outward stimuli. Historically, Eastern philosophical and religious traditions have done a better job exploring this aspect of human experience than those of the West. This dimension of Si is engaged during activities that direct attention to one’s internal bodily state, such as yoga, Tai-Chi, or meditation. INFPs interested in exploring this element of Si may find great delight and benefit from these sorts of practices." AND INTPs’ Auxiliary Function: Extraverted Intuition (Ne) INTPs use Extraverted Intuition (Ne) as their auxiliary function. Ne can function either perceptively or expressively. The verbal expression of Ne amounts to something like “brainstorming aloud.” When orating, INTPs may not always seem to “have a point” as they haphazardly drift from one idea to the next. Even ideas that seem inwardly logical and sensible INTPs may suddenly sound incoherent when they attempt to convey them through their Ne. In its receptive role, Ne prompts INTPs to gather information. Ne does not merely gather sensory information as Se does. Rather, it goes beyond or looks behind sense data, allowing INTPs to discern otherwise hidden patterns, possibilities, and potentials. Their Ne is constantly scanning for relationships or patterns within a pool of facts, ideas or experiences. INTPs commonly use this receptive side of their Ne in activities such as reading, researching, and conversation. They enjoy asking questions that allow them to gain insight or knowledge from others, making INTPs good facilitators of conversation. INTPs may also use their Ne to sniff out intriguing possibilities. They commonly enjoy and assume the role of wanderer or seeker, rarely knowing in advance exactly what they are seeking. Ne also confers an open-mindedness, helping INTPs see truth on both sides of an issue without forming unwarranted judgments or premature conclusions. More specifically, their Ne can be seen as contributing to their openness to alternative or Bohemian lifestyles. INTPs are those most likely to suddenly become vegetarians, join a commune, or decide to live out of the back of a van. They are drawn to the idea and challenges of an unconventional lifestyle. Like other NPs, INTPs often have a love-hate relationship with their Ne. They love the fact that it helps them remain open-minded and grasp the bigger picture. But living with Ne also has its challenges. For one, it can make it difficult for INTPs to arrive at firm conclusions or make important decisions. It often seems that at the very moment they are feeling good about a given conclusion or decision, their Ne steps in and causes them to start doubting it again. This has obvious implications for INTPs who are trying to find their niche in the world. This can leave them feeling discouraged and restless, worried that they may never find what they are looking for. They may feel frustrated by their seeming lack of progress toward anything substantial. The fact is that INTPs desperately want to produce something of lasting worth or value, but they also want to ensure they get it right. They don’t want to leave any stone unturned before arriving at a conclusion. While INTPs typically enjoy this quest for truth, there comes a point when they begin to feel the pressures of life impinging on them. Questions about careers and relationships loom large as they enter their late twenties and thirties. This can be frustrating to INTPs as they feel like life is requiring them to make decisions long before they are ready. As is true of all IN types, they feel that life would be far better if they weren’t forced to consider practical concerns. INTPs’ Tertiary Function: Introverted Sensing (Si) Unlike Ne (or Se), INTPs’ tertiary function, Introverted Sensing (Si), is a conservative function. It involves an attachment to past experiences and past precedent—to the routine, familiar, and predictable. Types with Si in their functional stack, including INTPs, tend to eat a fairly routine or consistent diet, “eating to live” rather than “living to eat.” Si types are not only conservative with regard to their diet, but with respect to the material world in general. They tend to be savers rather than spenders, seeing excessive material consumption as unnecessary, or perhaps even immoral. Like other Si types, INTPs also have a diminished need for novel physical pleasures, lavish surroundings, or material comforts. They are minimalists to the core, relatively unconcerned with their physical surroundings. An often overlooked role of Si is its perception of internal bodily sensations—the body as felt and experienced from within. Perhaps more than any other function, it provides access to the raw and basic sense of “being” that exists apart from thought or outward stimuli. Historically, Eastern philosophical and religious traditions have done a much better job exploring this dimension than those of the West. This feature of Si is brought to the fore during activities requiring close attention to one’s internal bodily state, such as yoga, Tai-Chi, meditation, or various relaxation techniques. INTPs interested in exploring this element of Si may find great delight and benefit from these sorts of practices. They are especially useful in developing the body awareness necessary to relax and control anxiety." Why do I think I've got this function? - I tend to be broad end expansive with my ideas and I tend to be imaginative too. My humour tends to be a good indicator of this as I tend to be silly, random and a bit crazy, also thinking in analogies as well eg. thinking that those jet-firey things that they have in chinese takeaway stores that cook food are basically holes where they have baby dragons living underneath that cook food when they're needed. An example of this would be when a teacher asked me to create method of solving world poverty to improve everyone else's lives and I was thinking on the go - changing and vocalising my ideas out loud as I went along. It was something that I named horribly ("The warehouse of crap" doesn't sound that appealing, I know) but it was basically a UN funded cornucopia-thing in Antarctica where every country sent their best employees from every job sector to work there and work together to improve humanity in short and long-term ways. It makes sense to me as my way thinking tends to be chaotic, jumping from one way or another and whenever I have a discussion in a humanities/english class - I just feel ideas ebbing and flowing all the time - and I forget half of them too. Sometimes I go off tangent when I'm talking to someone cuz there's so many ideas in my head. It makes sense for me that it's auxiliary (ne) as I first evaluate any incoming info with what feels right to me by using my emotions or thinking (nitpicking stuff to see any conflicts/whatever) , THEN I'll go crazy and expand upon my ideas/concepts that arise from this function - eg. prosthetics that have mechanical stuff within them that essentially act as replacements for lost bone/tissue/nerve that are responsive and reactive to the user and made from high-quality polymer, (very sci-fi - esque) as opposed to what we have now. This makes me ME as I'm horrendously indecisive as a person because I feel the idea first - then I expand on every possibility ever - then I take ages to come back down to earth again. Si could most likely be my tertiary as when I was younger my mum (she's an ISXP) would get super annoyed at me for not appreciating the beauty of scenery whilst on a train or the colour scheme of clothing. What mattered to me was getting from A to B vs beautiful stuff. (hence the less of need for "excessive material consumption" or "lavish surroundings") Si is also described as "attachment to past experiences" which summarises my desire for nostalgia; old songs and watching old movies for the hell of it - because I love them a lot and they evoke fun memories from when I first saw them. eg. Rewatching disney movies when I have nothing better to do. Ok - as I'm doing this, this is turning out more and more of a mess so Eeeerrrrr..... next post I guess?!?!?!?
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