#also it associates harry with fascism/blood supremacy which is also bad
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urmumsgyatt · 4 months ago
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am i the only one that hates dark harry or slytherin harry? like i cant be the only one who hates that corny ass shit, it’s so ooc and embarrassing😭
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royalydamned · 4 years ago
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"If writer creates a group of people who are very clear Nazis, and you sympathize with them.....that says a lot more to me about you than the author."
I'm so fucking tired of people thinking anything in fiction reflects your real life stance on politics and historical events. Death Eaters are toddlers compared to Nazis, you said you're a jew, you definetly know everything about legalized slavery, torture, human experiments, dehumanization and genocide of 16 million people that Nazis stand behind. How is that ever compared to DEs.
Now, "J. K. Rowling made a Nazi allegory". Actually, no she didn't, contrary to popular belief. What she did was inspire Voldemort on Hitler and Stalin, who had different regimes and "ruling". There are also similarties drawn between blood system of Jews in concentration camps and Muggleborns, but those according to JKR's own words were created before she noticed similarities with the Nazi blood assignment in Chicago WW2 museum.
On Hitler and Stalin - Rowling told the Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant that Voldemort was modeled on Hitler and Stalin, as a megalomaniac and paranoid figure, and that she was influenced by the Second World War, which is "anchored in all our minds".
Her words on on the "Nazi allegory": "Well, it is a political metaphor. But... I didn't sit down and think, 'I want to recreate Nazi Germany', in the—in the wizarding world. Because—although there are—quite consciously overtones of Nazi Germany, there are also associations with other political situations. So I can't really single one out."
Taking an inspiration and and taking certain overtones, doesn't make it direct allegory and mixing with other political historical situations doesn't at all. If the author herself doesn't call it a Nazi allegory, ehy is everybody so hung on making it so? To shit on people who like the "bad character"?
About the blood system: Rowling stated on her website that the Harry Potter phrases 'pure-blood', 'half-blood' and 'Muggle-born' compared to "some of the real charts the Nazis used to show what constituted 'Aryan' or 'Jewish' blood. I saw one in the Holocaust Museum in Washington when I had already devised the 'pure-blood', 'half-blood' and 'Muggle-born' definitions, and was chilled to notice the similarity." You're all very anti JKR anti her problematic comparisons pkay in your favor, too bad this one is an accident.
It's almost like every kind of extremistic idea and bigotry has similar undertones with others even though they aren't comparable with the actual experience.
Fascism, Nazism and Communism were all also the biggest dictatorship regimes known and those three also aren't comparable, because even though they had similar restrictions of freedom, they all had different goal anf at the end of the day, they wouldn't be able to co-exist, one would win.
It's almost like you're assuming none of us actually know about Holocaust, while I saw many Snape and Draco fans that were Jewish.
But if whatever you believe is true, and Death Eaters are Nazis, Voldemort is Hitler and Muggleborns are Jews, who are Slavs? Who are the gays? The mentally and physically disabled people Hitler wanted to purify the world of anf hated almost as much as Jews? If I remember correctly, Voldemort was anti Muggle and believed in blood supremacy, yet he had half-blood as his most loyal, wanted to recruit a Muggleborn and actually didn't hate any other magical "races" or however you'd call it. He wanted to recruit them for himself and not kill. So who is going to complete this flawless allegory you rely so much on to judge a real life person on?
Either be concerned with real life human rights problems or just stay with the fictional ones and don't mix them like it's relevant.
If a writer creates a group of people who are very clearly Nazis and you sympathize with them, even if they’ve got the most tragic of backstories, that says a lot more to me about you than about the author.
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