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vampireqrow-moved · 4 years ago

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*deep sigh* pan means regardless of gender and bi means two or more genders. People who are pan aren’t all biphobic or think that being bi is transphobic

*deep sigh* its almost like.... ive already expressed my opinion on these very specific talking points and you should actually read the posts i link in my pinned post AND carrd. ill help you out though bc im bored and dont have much else to do rn. adding a read more i HOPE works but knowing tumblr who knows. sorry if it doesnt

here’s my own words on the matter (taken from this post):

pansexualitys shiny new definition that many people cling to is that pansexual is attraction to all genders. bisexual is two or more genders.

which. frankly? doesnt make any sense. my guess is that its supposed to be inclusive of nonbinary genders and those a part of cultures who historically have not had a binary gender system in the first place. i cannot speak for the latter group, but as a nonbinary person, its not inclusive. anyone can be attracted to nonbinary people. literally anyone. theres no way to know if everyone you meet is nonbinary or not. whether or not a nonbinary person reciprocates those feelings and is interested in pursuing a relationship is completely up to the individual, regardless of the sexualities of the people involved.

bottom line is that you cant number the amounts of genders someone can be attracted to, thus rendering those definitions pointless. people can be attracted to all kinds of people regardless of gender, even if they are gay, a lesbian, or straight. all people can date thousands of nonbinary genders if all people involved are interested and comfortable with it. numbering the genders you can be attracted to diminishes the post of nonbinary, as it is not a third gender, it simply any experience not fitting within the western concept of the gender binary

i also discuss a LOT in that post that i think the pansexual LABEL is biphobic and transphobic and using it is furthering that BUT that doesn’t inherently make every pansexual person transphobic and biphobic. heres something else i think is relevant from that post:

pansexuality was started as a way to be trans inclusive at the expense of labelling bisexuality as transphobic when its not. transphobia is everywhere, and bisexuals are not exempt. instead of working on the transphobia within the community, the creators of pansexuality decided to remove themselves from it to create a better and less tainted word and community, and the fact that pansexuality is intended to replace bisexuality or leave it for the transphobes goes to show a few things. pansexuality and bisexuality are inherently linked because the pan label is in response to the bi label. due to its origins, it is inherently competing with bisexuality and it cant be “reclaimed” from its biphobic roots. pansexuality is not a whole, separate, and valid label. its a biphobic response to issues within the bisexual community.

and oooooone last thing from another ask i answered here if it matters:

basically i think iding with a transphobic label is inherently a singular transphobic action that doesnt make the person transphobic by itself, but is still a transphobic instance.

bisexual organizations and history do not reinforce the notion that bisexuality means “two or more.” this was completely made up to justify pan and bi being recognised as separate sexualities. and it just. doesnt make any sense if you arent looking for a reason to support pansexuality?? heres a short post discussing the “two or more” definition.

another long pansexuality post from ares catboyqrow ridley.... time to pack it up boys.

#im down to reply to further asks just be nice lol #asks #anonymous #pansexuality #ask to tag further?

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