#also ema and kay shit going on in the background lol

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I ALSO MADE AN AA5 REMAKE IDEA LIST LIKE A WHILE AGO HERE:

case 1:

- basic case, get into the grove of things

- against a payne cause LOL

- jury system trial run 2.0

- phoenix there to oversee it and heckles apollo for the lols (assistant)

- scarecrow murder

case 2

- start off with phoenix saying something ominous before disappearing for the rest of the case. trucy with apollo

- blackquill’s arrest with athena showing up at wright anything agency. she also sticks with apollo for the case

- new prosecutor. don’t know who, but they’re convinced that phoenix did forge evidence and that edgeworth is covering up for him (important later but doesn’t come up during this case beside some general goading)

- edit blackquill’s arrest to make it more political. maybe he’s a prosecutor from overseas that edgeworth brought in?

- jury system isn’t used. explained as phoenix working on something

case 3

- jury systems there. phoenix is not.

- phoenix is back and gives apollo a case then disappears again

- apollo thinks it’s simple. or he would if phoenix didn’t give it to him

- suspiciously little evidence

- phoenix shows up, gives apollo some papers, then leaves

- same prosecutor. realizes halfway through someone tampered with the evidence. accuses apollo.

- papers are a list of who came and went into the evidence locker during the investigation. apollo presents it as proof he never showed up

- prosecutor seems shocked by something and forcibly ends the trial for the day

- apollo ends up talking to the prosecutor and asks what’s so shocking. the prosecutor doesn’t answer, so apollo goes to the defendant to ask if they recognize any names. they do but won’t say who due to danger or whatever

- apollo investigated the crime scene again. miraculously, there’s more evidence around.

- apollo goes back to the agency to hear edgeworth and phoenix talking. all he manages to get before being found is “we will catch her”. when asking who “she” is, he’s told he doesn’t need to know

- second day, prosecutor shows up with a new witness, who claims to know something about the missing evidence.

- there’s a lot of stuff that happens, but eventually, apollo realizes that the new witness knows something about the evidence that they could only know if they had seen it, and they claim to have just seen it taken

- witness ends up arrested. real killer not found.

case 4

- phoenix is there from the beginning. says something about final testing for the jury system and mentions some sort of secret coming out. when pressed further, he just laughs

- jury includes apollo and trucy’s mom

- same prosecutor. shows up at crime scene, demanding to speak with phoenix. phoenix obliges, leaving apollo on his own.

- when asking the detective on site what they could be talking about, apollo is told a story about the prosecutor’s parent being disbarred for forging evidence. prosecutor helped with disbarment

- unsure of what to do with that information, apollo investigates the scene. this time, there seems to be too much evidence, and phoenix shows up to tell him he should get it all checked. mentions something about an attempt on his life before closing off and leaving

- when checking evidence, a large number of it is proved to be falsified. when asked about it, apollo denies any knowledge, and he’s let go due to the fact that he brought it in

- prosecutor shows up again. apollo asks about evidence on scene and if they knew it was faked. they did not, and apollo asks if they want to look together to find out who faked it. prosecutor agrees, but on the condition that they share evidence for the upcoming trial. apollo agrees and the prosecutor goes to ask around about the falsified evidence while he stays behind to search the crime scene.

- trial begins. apollo shares his evidence and prosecutor tells him about witnesses coming up. phoenix and edgeworth pass by, not stopping, but apollo hears edgeworth mention something asked of the prosecutor. when asked, the prosecutor admits that when they took phoenix aside for a conversation that they don’t tell apollo the contents of, he had asked them if they’d be willing to share information with the defense in an attempt to make the trial more fair. they declined up until they heard apollo say something about forged evidence. they decided to ask just in case apollo did have something to do with the forging so they could get it checked themself. when asked why phoenix wanted them to do that, they admitted that they didn’t know. apollo decides to ask phoenix at a later time.

- stuff happens, and apollo realizes a piece of evidence is forged right before the prosecution presents it. he demands a recess and tells the prosecution of his suspicions. the prosecutor brushes him off saying that he has to do more than that to throw them off their game. apollo tells phoenix of his suspicions and phoenix tells him that it’s part of a plan. when asked if the prosecutor knows that, phoenix tells apollo that it wouldn’t work if they did. apollo gets pissed off but goes back into the courtroom.

- the forged piece of evidence is presented, and gumshoe ends up coming in. he tells the judge that all the evidence that was considered forged all went through one detective and that the piece just presented was one of the few pieces that remained intact. court closes for the day to investigate

- when apollo confronts phoenix after the trial, phoenix tells him that he did tell the prosecutor but wasn’t believed. he then said that he didn’t want to tell apollo because he still believes the prosecutor is on their side but that the prosecutor doesn’t believe they’re on their side, and that if apollo knew what phoenix had told them without the full story, he probably would’ve assumed there was something wrong with the prosecutor. when pressed further, phoenix admits that he was the one who told the prosecutor of their father’s crimes, though he was anonymous at the time. however, when the first jury trial happened, the prosecutor figured out it was him and assumed he knew due to the fact that he had done the same thing, and phoenix hadn’t argued. when asked why not, he said that if the prosecutor believed that there were larger amounts of intentional forgery than there is, then they’d be more suspicious and therefore more able to catch things that edgeworth, phoenix, and apollo all missed due to edgeworth being too high up to see those things, phoenix only being involved in the jury system, and apollo being a defense attorney. apollo tells him that that’s manipulative and phoenix agrees before leaving. apollo gets frustrated and leaves to go to the crime scene

- at the crime scene, the prosecutor shows up looking pale. when they see apollo, they apologize immediately and ask if he has any more suspicions. apollo realizes that the prosecutor now being more friendly with him was probably also phoenix’s intention, but he agrees to go over the evidence after they finish investigating anyway. when they get to the scene, though, they aren’t allowed entry due to the fact that it’s being investigated due to the forgery. when protesting, edgeworth appears and allows them in. before he goes in, though, apollo asks edgeworth what his and phoenix’s plan is. edgeworth just tells them that they’re looking to end the dark age of law and leaves.

- when on the crime scene, the prosecutor asks apollo why phoenix doesn’t have his badge yet. apollo says he hasn’t thought about it. the prosecutor wonders if it’s because the dark age of law isn’t over and he believes that someone is needed that isn’t affiliated with the defense or prosecution. when apollo points out that phoenix is affiliated with him, the prosecutor mentions phoenix going to the prosecutor’s office for multiple prosecutors. when asked which ones, the prosecutor says something about klavier along with edgeworth and a few that they aren’t entirely sure about but they think have a good chance of being involved. apollo resolves to talk to klavier as soon as possible.

- they find a few more pieces on the crime scene, but the most startling is a bloody ace. when asked about it, the detective says they don’t know how it got there, and picks it up. apollo notices she’s lying and eventually pressures her to admitting that someone forced her to put it on the scene of the crime and remove it once apollo had seen. the prosecutor asks apollo if he knows what it’s from and he lies and says no before heading back to the wright anything agency.

- when back, he tells phoenix about the ace. phoenix says he’s surprised that that’s the route she went with and reassures apollo that nothing will happen, and if it does, phoenix will just tell them that it was him who did it and never told apollo. apollo tells him that that isn’t better and phoenix disagrees, saying that a few more years in ruin won’t be much. apollo says something about trucy and phoenix tells him that since he has yet to get his badge, it won’t change much. apollo argues that it’d be more charges against her father and phoenix tells him that at least they’d be correct. finally, apollo asks phoenix why he doesn’t have a badge and phoenix just tells him that there’s more he needs to do before that can happen then leaves. trucy then reveals to apollo that she was there the whole time and admits that she’d rather phoenix not go through that again. apollo agrees and tells trucy that he’ll look into ways of making sure it doesn’t come out.

- conclusion of the trial. no new news comes out, and the mother doesn’t make herself known

case 5

- news of the forged ace comes out

- phoenix tries to take the fall but apollo does before him

- he says that he knew kristoph was behind phoenix’s disbarment and that he killed the victim in that trial but he had no way to prove it so he had the ace placed there

- phoenix tries to argue that since the ace was found on the scene the day of the murder, that was impossible, but apollo points out that he could’ve just followed kristoph. when asked why he didn’t report as a witness, apollo says that he was afraid of what kristoph could do.

- it gets taken to trial, and apollo tries to take his own defense. before he can do that, phoenix reveals that he already has his badge and has since his acquittal. when asked how, he says something about edgeworth

- it’s decided to be a jury system trial. the prosecutor is the same as throughout the game, though they visibly have doubts about the whole thing.

- the prosecution has a witness to bring to the stand, but before they can, klavier shows up.

- he says he can’t prove or disprove apollo did anything but he can give character testimony and why he believes that guilty or not, apollo shouldn’t be punished.

- the jury grants his request and he admits that about four years into phoenix’s disbarment, edgeworth had approached him. originally, he had thought that edgeworth just wanted to yell at him, but instead, he had told him about the current evidence they had against kristoph. it has convinced klavier of his brother’s guilt, and from there on, he had worked with edgeworth to decrease his reach.

- phoenix hadn’t known about this and is visibly shocked. he gets upset, but before he can say anything, klavier reminds him that he kept much worse from edgeworth and that if anyone has the right to be mad due to those seven years, it’s him. phoenix reluctantly agrees but still says that he doesn’t agree with how that happened. klavier tells him that it doesn’t matter and that it already happened.

- klavier continues on to say that they did find evidence against his brother but that it was always disposed of before anything could happen, even when it wasn’t possible for kristoph himself to get his hands on it. he says that catching the people who took care of that evidence was what he and edgeworth were doing and names a few people they arrested, including the prosecutor’s father. when the prosecutor asks phoenix about it, phoenix just says that he figured he was the best target for the prosecutor’s anger and he didn’t really feel the need to correct them.

- klavier then says that by the time phoenix got arrested for murder, they still hadn’t got everyone, saying that’s why he decided to come back to the states. he tells the court that the only way they could’ve gotten kristoph arrested was by either taking away his entire network or forging something, and since they hadn’t taken away his entire network by the time phoenix got arrested, they were considering forging evidence themselves. klavier says that prior to apollo’s arrest, he had believed phoenix forged the ace, and that no matter who did it, no one deserved to be punished before leaving. phoenix reiterates that it was him and apollo once again disagrees.

- the witness finally comes in. she seems shocked to see phoenix at the defense stand and apollo as the defendant. phoenix tries to goad her into saying that he was the one who forged the ace but it doesn’t work. the witness says she saw apollo put the ace on the scene somehow someway, look, the point is, she’s covering for someone due to being threatened, and once this is discovered, someone (edgeworth or gumshoe) comes in with a list of people who have been put under similar threats.

- witness from case 3 is on the list

- when asked the meaning of this, whoever came in simply says that this witness testimony must be thrown out and that without it, they don’t have the proof needed to punish apollo.

- there’s a short recess and apollo approaches gumshoe to ask about someone with the description of the detective who pulled the ace from the crime scene of the fourth trial

- gumshoe admits that he knows no one with that description and says he’s going to check for her

- she’s the blackmailer. woo.

- shit happens, and blackmailer gets into the courtroom and eventually gets caught. she leaves with a warning abt the dark age of law and phoenix laughs at her

- apollo ends up being found not guilty by the jury on the grounds of them not thinking any real proof was found and that even if there was, he still wasn’t guilty of anything

- there’s a cut scene of apollo and trucy’s mom on the jury, selecting not guilty

- at the end, apollo and phoenix are outside the courtroom, talking and apollo ends up asking for more clarification on the dark age of law

- phoenix ends up explaining that the only reason this is considered the dark age of law is bc the corrupt ppl keep getting caught, causing faith to be lost in the court system. he tells him that this’ll be what they need to enact systematic change and it’s a necessary step for his and edgeworth’s plans to move forward

- when apollo asks about said plans, phoenix just says to make things better. apollo gets frustrated, saying he should be allowed to help, which causes phoenix to laugh and tell him that he’s already helping

- ends with athena coming in and asking to join wright anything agency

end notes: not 100% on all of this (phoenix having his badge and klavier helping jail his brother r the most questionable) but the idea of following the theme of corruption and struggling to help when you don’t have all the info (sorry apollo lol) along with moving forward the dark age of law plot feels like it’d! be! so! good! anyway, aa6 in this universe would probably revolve more around restoring ppl’s faith and the enactment of phoenix and edgeworth’s efforts to overhaul the court system (think letting defense attorneys have access to the same info as prosecutors and not being allowed to present evidence in court unless it’s examined by the police). ends with a final trial where apollo’s mother is on trial and ends up revealing herself to him and trucy which includes an instance of apollo having to choose between presenting unexamined evidence (since the new system isn’t fully implemented) or not presenting it, leaving it 100% up to the player. either way, it goes to be examined (prosecutor demands it if presented, apollo gets assistant (trucy) to get it examined if not), and comes up as fake. ends court for that day and shows an actual investigation into the forged evidence instead of just blaming apollo (with phoenix there mentioning he wished they did that for him) and it ends up leading them to the forger, who ends up being the killer and admits to being the killer in case of 5-3. phoenix and apollo talk at the end and phoenix says that that person was the last of their list of what they assumed to be kristoph’s group and that, for the first time since he got disbarred, he is no longer hunting for corruption. says he’ll still keep an eye out but that he trust that the changes to the system he and edgeworth added along with the new blood in the field such as apollo and athena (athena will mostly be a judicial assistant in this due to her still learning to be a lawyer). phoenix reveals that he and edgeworth are still doing research into new systems they could possibly implement, but since edgeworth can’t research in other countries, he’s going instead. he repeats mia’s line in aa3 telling him he’s all good as a lawyer to apollo before entrusting him with wright anything agency. ends with something with trucy, apollo, phoenix, athena, and lamirior (maybe them seeing phoenix off to his research?? idk) and some sort of conversation with trucy, apollo, and lamirior, tying up that loose end somehow. most of the other cases will revolve around learning whatever system edgeworth and phoenix decided was chill and will feature different prosecutors in each case to show how it affects each of them differently

apollo justice trilogy ideas

because capcom fucking WASTED the potential they had with aa4 and the storytelling of the trilogy deserved to be replicated with more characters

notes under the cut

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