#also does anyone remember when sarah made a racist joke on his livestream LIVE to THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE

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i feel like people make ryan and dallon out to be some innocent victim ultra oppressed under the ruling of the evil brendon urie when they're not even that good as people and most probably split up over disagreements instead of any kind of abuse. especially ryan when he had just as much/even more power over panic than bu did

This is so true ryan definitely does not GAF about this anymore hes too busy being goth and living in a vampire castle. dallon though you definitely get that him and brendon obviously just did not get along lol (even though they got along fine pre-2013?) and dallon was working under abusive/manipulative circumstances re: zack hall, and how brendon enabled zack. Ryan if anything is the winner in all of this because my man has not worked a day in his life since 2011 and is still managing to sustain his LA lifestyle and property taxes through royalties SOMEHOW? its insane. I also honestly think BU is just astronomically stupid, fratty and easily influenced and just went along with whatever zack said/did.. Not to say that i am absolving him of any wrongdoing, because im not, but i think in general people think he’s more cunning than he actually is lol.