#also I remember once I was discussing with my sis abt how outrageous it was ichiruki didn't end up together

[witchandhuntress]

Sjhdfhfh, AND FJFJFGÑÑ, djhfjhgf, I have so much to say,

"He could have written ich1hime into something that developed slowly over time that maybe could have at least made sense and delved into something organic"->, and yes, bc it was the same with naruhina and narusaku, they had to make a whole movie it WASN'T even written by the author to justify that ship, and I have been a Naruto fan for years I know for sure Kishimoto didn't even like naruhina, hell I'm sure he didn't even like Hinata, he allowed that ship only bc the (male) fans wanted it.

"I really think that the only reason Ich1hime ended up together is because Ich1go is the male hero lead and the "appropriate" love interest in Kubo's head was a woman who fit the "ideal" woman to start a family with and that's where Or1hime fits the bill. She's the typical ideal shy and submissive Japanese girl" -> Same for Naruto, he ended up with Hinata because the same reasons she's the ideal male otaku loser waifu that and bc of tits obviusly.

"Also, you would think that male authors who put so much work into their male leads would develop the romantic bonds and individual character of whatever female love interest they plan to pair up the precious male hero" -> That's what kills me, at least for Naruto I can say he shared deep bonds with Sakura and Sasuke but Kishimoto killed them when he went for the naruhina route. As a reader I think that's very unsatisfying.

"And when you have a story where you can actually see the male author write such a beautiful deep relationship between two opposite sex characters without bullshit gender roles and then go ahead and make one pairing (involving one of the main characters) that fits patriarchal gender roles cannon ??!!!" -> Honestly same, 50% of the time I thought maybe Kishi was going for the yaoi route and that was okay for me, I would have liked the NaruSaku route too but I guess that didn't fit the heterosexual/misogynists needs from the male dominated fandom, because: a) yaoi and b) Sakura didn't fill the role of typical waifu either.

I unironically think Tite Kubo is a misogynist for making Or1hime and Ich1go end up together.

And I'm not just saying this because ichiruki is my OTP but it's because the fact that this man knows how to write romance and ichiruki's bond is top notch even when you compare it to actual shoujo pairings - he could have written ich1hime into something that developed slowly over time that maybe could have at least made sense and delved into something organic, but till the very end they felt like awkward acquaintances. The gap in closeness between Ich1ruki ('more than friends less than lovers') vs the cannon Ich1hime ship bond is quite frankly jarring like there is seriously no competition. Now renj1ruk1a, while I'm not enthusiastic about, at least had something to it but again, comparing Ich1go's and Ruk1a's relationships with other people aside from the one that they have with each other, Ich1go's and Or1hime's relationship is hands down one of the most lackluster in the show. Heck, Ich1go even had a more dynamic relationship with Ury*u, Chad and even T4tsuki for god's sake.

I really think that the only reason Ich1hime ended up together is because Ich1go is the male hero lead and the "appropriate" love interest in Kubo's head was a woman who fit the "ideal" woman to start a family with and that's where Or1hime fits the bill. She's the typical ideal shy and submissive Japanese girl ( not to mention the ridiculous breast size) who is motherly and completely smitten and devoted with the male lead and I guess Kubo thought that was peak heterosexual romance as opposed to the duo with the sun and moon symbolism and moving 'she stopped the rain' 'i wonder if i can keep up with the speed of the world without you' poetry.

Also, you would think that male authors who put so much work into their male leads would develop the romantic bonds and individual character of whatever female love interest they plan to pair up the precious male hero but NOPE - they often don't do that and it's where you can clearly see men's misogyny and how little women matter to them.

And when you have a story where you can actually see the male author write such a beautiful deep relationship between two opposite sex characters without bullshit gender roles and then go ahead and make one pairing (involving one of the main characters) that fits patriarchal gender roles cannon ??!!! - in the same fucking story where you can directly compare them - it's the misogyny I'm afraid.