#all said tongue in cheek ofc i’m vastly oversimplifying
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i just feel like looking at precanon dynamics going ‘oh the main reason sam and john clash is because they’re sooooo similar’ is ignoring actual canon and implication in favour of taking a specific comment about a specific arc of sam’s that dean makes and running with it.
for one it’s missing all the context which is. this isn’t two random people who clash for unknown reasons, this is a father and the son he’s actively abusing and neglecting. sam has a right to be angry!! it’d be more concerning if he Wasnt angry (a la dean)!!
also just what we do see in canon is like. totally the opposite. john’s always hated the fact that sam’s different from him… that sam wants different things, doesn’t want to hunt, a different life…. DEAN’S the one who tries to be identical to his father. whether he succeeds is another story (i don’t think he’s innately very like john but i do think he leans into the same coping mechanisms and behavioural patterns, wholly for the worse!) but john seems to mostly believe him. even going by the journal which like. i know people don’t take as canon but i like it <3. john thinks dean’s practically a mini him (ofc he Isn’t but) and that sam reminds him of mary. 🤷♂️ ofc you can still see sam and john as being similar in some ways. i can certainly see it and i’m sure i’ve written it. kids r often like their parents. but 1 that’s not, like, the Secret Reason they’ve always fought so badly and 2 sam is like john sometimes but he’s also like mary who’s like dean who’s also still like john. and sam and dean are often like each other. i already went on about this in my last post so i’m repeating myself but. reject the false binary inside your head where a sibling like. picks a parent and grows up to identically be them.
#i’m saying all this but like. i do think in some respects john sees himself in sam and i do think it makes him hard on sam and i do think#they have similarities!!! they’re parent and child!!! and i 100% believe that DEAN thinks they have similarities. lol. but that’s cause he’s#mentally cast himself as mary no matter how much he wants to be john#like. i’ve definitely genuinely written dynamics where sam and john ARE similar and do clash because of it#it can be an interesting dynamic to explore!!! but. it’s not the reason their relationship is so complicated#tldr john ≠ sam#dean just thinks they’re the same because he’s obsessed with both of them <3#spn#oliver talks#all said tongue in cheek ofc i’m vastly oversimplifying#supernatural#winchester dynamics#need to start tagging my posts properly
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