#ali pasha

[stepmarchen]

Soo.....I saw like Twitter post discussing how like in Ch 74 (yes I am reading it for the 60th time again) where Ali tells Rachel about how his brothers kinda kill themselves for the throne or smth and then Ch 54 where like Halima (my mother) says "No one tormented you, right? Oh well...they would have been gone" (in short of getting killed?) sooo...maybe Ali's brothers........did smth......

Idk since it's hiatus and we all are going through starvation, hallucination etc etc, I thought of sharing this , what do you think?

Hmmm... it's pretty plainly written that the brothers killed each other fighting over an inherited treasure (the throne). In my mind, I like to think that Ali was probably born after the happened, in an attempt to save the bloodline (because of coooourse a WOMAN can't be king, right?), which explains why Ali is so much younger than Halima.

With their father being quite old and less likely to continue having more kids, it's highly likely that Ali, the last surviving and viable heir to the throne would be fiercely protected by the Safavid Empire. It's to no surprise to me that they would probably execute or banish anyone that offended him or looked at him funny.

So in my mind, I don't see the possibility that the brothers' deaths being caused by an act of rebellion against Ali. If anything, the opposite (Ali dying by rebelling his older siblings) would've been more possible.

Unless... you meant it in a different way? But i still don't think they were executed by any greater authority... I think they just killed each other.

[royalty-nobility]

Ali Pasha (1740-1822) with His Favourite Mistress Lira Vassiliki

Artist: Raymond Monvoisin (French, 1794–1870)

Date: 1846

Medium: Oil on canvas

Collection: Private Collection

Description

The Muslim Albanian Ali Pasha of Yanina was the ruler of the Balkans when they formed Rumelia, a province of the Ottoman Empire; Kira (Kyra) Vasiliki, a Greek and Christian, was his favorite wife.

[valkavavaart]

commission for @honeyso4 !

[lord-byrons-ghost]

Pasha this and Pasha that... will you spare a thought for Ali Pasha of Ioannina?

Now, that is a name that brings back sweet memories indeed! - Ali Pasha was one of the most charming despots I have ever laid eyes upon; flashing blue eyes and a great white beard, clad in silks. My visitation to him in Albania was an honour and a joy - they call him the Mahometan Buonaparte for his excellence at war - Buonaparte himself sent a snuff box, and courts him eternally - as do our own rotten breed of diplomat - and he refuses the both of them.

Now, if I can retrieve that deuced letter to my mother, I shall find you my first meeting with the fellow, dear anonymous!

“The next day I was introduced to Ali Pacha. I was dressed in a full suit of staff uniform, with a very magnificent sabre, &c. The vizier received me in a large room paved, with marble; a fountain was playing in the centre; the apartment was surrounded by scarlet ottomans. He received me standing, a wonderful compliment from a Mussulman, and made me sit down on his right hard. I have a Greek interpreter for general use, but a physician of Ali’s, named Femlario, who understands Latin, acted for me on this occasion. His first question was, why, at so early an age, I left my country?—(the Turks have no idea of travelling for amusement). He then said, the English minister, Captain Leake, had told him I was of a great family, and desired his respects to my mother; which I now, in the name of All Pacha, present to you. He said he was certain I was a man of birth, because I had small ears, curling hair, and little white hands, and expressed himself pleased with my appearance and garb. He told me to consider him as a father whilst I was in Turkey, and said he looked on me as his son. Indeed, he treated me like a child, sending me almonds and sugared sherbet, fruit and sweetmeats, twenty times a day. He begged me to visit him often, and at night, when he was at leisure. I then, after coffee and pipes, retired for the first time. I saw him thrice afterwards. It is singular, that the Turks, who have no hereditary dignities, and few great families, except the Sultans, pay so much respect to birth; for I found my pedigree more regarded them my title."

Make of the gifts - especially the sherbet - and the nightly visits what you will. I deny and confirm nothing, saving Ali Pasha's civility to a wand'ring poetiser. If I could have returned to that country of noble savages with flashing eyes, I should have been glad to reacquaint myself with such a fellow as he.

[lord-bajromi]

Voyage A Janina En Albanie, Par La Sicile Et La Grèce Hughes, Thomas Smart, 1786-1847

[macla539ac]

[postcard-from-the-past]

Ali Pasha Mosque in Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina

Austrian vintage postcard

[lildudie18]

🐞 oh no ! I accidentally caused the bubsy time machine to work ! and now you and I are forced to be thrown back two centuries in time ! 🐞

🐞 can you, fellow traveler, guess who this is ?! 🐞

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🐞 hello everyone ! as a huge ahh history nerd it's my time to shine and portray a certain era in a funny way ! as always don't take my words for granted for history can be portrayed and perceived differently by everyone, again: this post is for entertainment purposes so do not get all worked up over it 🙈 🐞

🐞 here's your comic 🏃‍♀️ 🐞

🐞 (if you did guess correctly you get smth from me ig..) 🐞

🐞 thank you for reading *sprints so far away you can't catch me and question why I made this but I stop once I see you're questioning the amazing eye ball perspective I drew instead* 🐞

[stepmarchen]

[royalty-nobility]

Ali Pasha With His Favourite Mistress Lira Vassiliki

Artist: Raymond Monvoisin (French, 1794–1870)

Date: 1846

Medium: Oil on canvas

Collection: Private collection

Ali Pasha of Yannina

Ali Pasha of Tepelen or of Yannina , the Lion of Yannina , (1741 – 24 January 1822) was the ruling regent ( Pasha ) of the western part of Rumelia , the European territory of the Ottoman Empire . His court was in Ioannina.

[jeanhm]

[madmonksandmaenads]

It kind of described a guy up until the end of the Ottoman Period, especially in the mountainous regions of Greece and in Albania. The Greek and Albanian armatoles were basically deputized mountain bandits given Ottoman authority to enforce law and hunt Klephts (undeputized mountain bandits). These were not hard lines and many would switch which side of the law they were on depending on local politics. They would also go on to serve as a guerilla core to Greek revolutionary movements. They certainly could become very rich, though their position was one fundamentally maintained by violence and as such if they proved unable to continue to perform violence they would tend to be deposed by their subordinates. You really can't command a bunch of mountain bandits without being out there in the mountains with them.

The apotheosis of this is Ali Pasha of Ioannina. He started as one of these bandit lords and later became the official Ottoman governor of an important silver producing region of northern Greece. He by that point did become a "rich guy who is the boss of bandits" but he kept his reputation for having being a bandit himself and that served him well for making allies among the Klephts and Armatoles. He eventually tried to use those allies to break free from Ottoman rule, but ended up getting quartered by Jannissaries for his rebellion. I am not sure we can draw line from the Klephts to the Homeric raider lords, but I do think it can speak to a geological reality of Greece that creates the potential for bandit lords to thrive.

the homeric lords are a weird mix of "rich guy" and "bandit". we havbe rich guys who are the boss of bandits but aiui they don't generally go out on bandit runs themselves, thats how you get killed! but the homeric lords do (and they get killed). not sure if this describes a real ancient greek reality (much harder to get your guys to obey you if youre not there back then, they could just leave with the loot, you dont have a large well connected network) or just an idealization

[baeleg]

Koka në Stambollë more, e trupi në Janinë, e të shtrinë Ali Pasha more, e o Pasha të shtrinë. Aaand its done, i may do two more drawings of her cause i'm having a blast lol.

Putting this again in any case, the reference used.

[lord-bajromi]