#alfons route

[shatcey]

My favorite scene

Damn it, he's so good! I don't care if it was unconvincing, he doesn't have to, he's not a professional actor after all. The idea is brilliant, and all the guys joined forces to play along… It was so funny.

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🔝 𝕊𝕋𝔸ℝ𝕋 ℙ𝔸𝔾𝔼 🔝

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[zodiaqueseiza]

Discution time about: Ikemen Villains

My opinion, so please respect it and don't attack me or insult me for it.

Mention of : SA, non con

So I'm currently on chapter 9 of Alfons route, and something has been bugging me.

Like Alfons and his whole deal of escaping reality. Like I can understand the theorem or some. (But that's not the main problem here)

The problem is that Alfons gives Kate dreams/illusions so she can not be "traumatized" by the job of Crown.

After he literally pretended to be her boyfriend and sleep with her.

In that sense, that's almost, if not an actual sexual aggression, like he's pretending to be someone else and sleeping with her without consent.

After she wakes up and is like embarrassed and calls Alfons a scandral. Like the whole opposite of what I think you should feel when you realize you've been r*pe.

Like what is annoying me the most is Kate nonchalant attitude, like for it's like "Oh, I got r*pe". Like the whole action is really banalized, in my opinion.

I want to hear your thoughts about this, because maybe there's something I missed, so that's why I don't understand fully all this nonchalant going on.

And again, I don't want people to come attack me because I give out my opinion and point of view.

And this isn't against Ikemen Villains or Alfons. Like, I would have said it if that was any character. And I like the game a lot.

I just can't with the nonchalant about sexual aggression.

Have a great day, everyone.

[shatcey]

the same reason, spoiler for Ally route

The first time I read it, I didn't notice his question, but it was a HUGE shock to see such an answer from Kate.

It sounds like an invitation to me. This is not OUR Kate. Our Kate would never ask for this… at the beginning, for sure.

I feel that this decision to subtle the situation is not a good idea for another reason.

In my opinion, Ally didn't ask her permission, because to him she was an ordinary person, one of many. He decided it was the best thing for her, and he did it. But the more she gets closer to his true self, the more he becomes attached to her, the more important her opinion matters to him. He stopped showing her illusions RIGHT AFTER she asked him about it. This shows that he is already changing.

And I like your thought that in this route, physical closeness is used as another way to push someone, to distract them from him (which sounds rather strange if you look at the meaning of this word). And the fact that he said he wouldn't touch her until she admitted she was wrong about her feelings only proves it. If you love me, I won't touch you, but if it's just to distraction, come here, I'm all yours. It gives an impression that he is afraid of love, but he, as usual, thinks about others…

I like the way he's slowly changing in JP game, you can see it in every decision he makes. He stopped imposing his illusions on her, he began to open up, eventually, he even began to try to understand his own feelings. This is a huge step, extremely huge for him. And we… were robbed of it. I mean, it didn't ruin the story, I still love it very much. But if you look at these little details more closely, you will have questions.

my thoughts on the presence (or rather, lack thereof) of dub-con in alfons’ route in en

thank you for the ask anon! since it contains spoilers for al’s route, i will put under a cut. also it is a long post!

hi anon! i did notice this, yes! they also made changes to some other scenes as well for a similar purpose. as far as i heard, it is sort of a general trend for the en localization to water down scenes that may be considered dub- or non-con; apparently, they have done this with other ikémen series games like iképri.

in alfons’ case, though, i have some mixed feelings overall abt doing so in this route. i hope i can explain myself ok!

on one hand, i think making it more “soft” so to speak does make it feel more accessible for readers in the western fanbase, who in general seem more sensitive (?) to the presence of dub- or non-con, compared to japan. i would honestly love for many people to be able to read his route and not feel super uncomfy? while doing so. so in this respect, i can get behind this decision.

that said.

i feel like other aspects of the story have been sacrificed as a result of this. i believe that, in the original story, scenes play out the way they do for a reason. if there is dub-con, they probably arent putting it all in just for the teehee dubious consent teehees. for example, part of what made this story interesting to me in the japanese version was that against the so-called conventional notion, sex was not used as a means to bring characters closer together, but more so as a way to make them more distant. theres this sort of irony and a theme of isolation (ironically in part due to sex) that i felt was more apparent in japan, in part highlighted due to the dub-con. i feel like making kate want this beforehand is more safe, yes, but also it sort of waters down this irony a bit compared to japan imho.

another consequence is in kate’s character. i think its kind of a strange change that in some parts of the story surrounding those scenes, kate is pretty insistent on facing reality to the fullest, but then one ask from alfons and shes ready to indulge in a fantasy, away from reality, as she asked for it. but despite that, she tries to push him as far away as she can. it sort of makes me feel there’s a gap or blip in her character if that makes sense. part of what made these scenes dub-con maybe is how alfons wanted to give an escape to kate via sex, but kate didn’t want that escape bc she wants to face reality. it creates more conflict between them.

part of kates character development in alfons’ route, too, is going from being staunch in the start of the story, to learning, questioning, and deciding for herself what is considered right? and what is considered wrong? as the story progresses. but with the whole kate wanting it since the beginning, this flaw is sort of lost since the start, making her development feel a bit more static, as by her saying yes to alfons since the beginning, it already establishes her as someone who wants to see reality, but also knows to see the benefit in an escape or a fantasy, when this is sort of what she is meant to develop into by the end.

ftr im not saying these things r completely lost! just that they feel a bit watered down? a bit less engaging? if thats the word, as a kinda byproduct of softening up the dub-con scenes. so i feel the impact may be a bit less compared to japan. but, again, i do understand why they chose to make such changes as well to en.

overall, i dont hold very negative thoughts abt it. nor do i really fully like it either. maybe its bc i play on both servers, but i feel like en just… doesn’t get an experience you could get in japan, which kinda gives me mixed feelings in a way as well, i suppose. i kind of feel that en deserves to read what was dished out in japan, without it being chosen for the fanbase what should be hidden from them (had there not been fan translators translating stuff more “word for word.”)

[theimaginativelyreticent]

The look on Roger's face upon seeing the MC naked 🫣

And Elbie's protective instinct is 😍🥰

[rawr-mortgage]

Alfons memes cuz i'm obsessed with him

1 // 2: tragic blorbos go brr

[kibby-reaper]

and everything goes well everytime

- mod reaper

[shatcey]

That's very beautiful. And I really like it. My love for Ally is limitless so I'm always on his side… But I'm trying to imagine them sitting in a carriage with the sun shining on both of their backs… and.. I can't do that… Can they have two suns?

Maybe I'm wrong, but for me, the windows in the carriage are on the same side as the doors… and the seats are located on different walls of the carriage. Can there be windows behind the seats? I don't know…

Perhaps it's an open carriage… There are no windows… no walls… I don't know… This is odd. So… yeah… I'm completely confused.

alfons' blind love ending

kate's pov:

alfons' pov (from his side story):

[cozyfaee]

Gonna start taking screenshots of everything he says and post it out of context.

[pawnkyyy]

Day 2 : Secret Santa 🎁

Ikemen Advent hosted by Mimi @candied-boys and Julie @queengiuliettafirstlady !!

i posted a spoil of this day before muhehehe

day two! Our really hard working Elbert and the sneaky Alfons!

[sunshine-and-her-ikevil-stuff]

Behold. I just found the the best Alfons line

I snorted when I saw this

[messy-jin]

The average Elbert's route experience.

[shatcey]

Alfons' Route (my area of expertise)

He's just a shy genius.

Considering how angry he was when he came up with the idea… it shows once again how smart he is. He didn't kill the guy, he made him make a fool of himself. And thus he became completely useless for any of his extremely idiotic ideas. It's really brilliant.

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🔝 𝕊𝕋𝔸ℝ𝕋 ℙ𝔸𝔾𝔼 🔝

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[mitch4tune]

These two are so QPR and neurodivergent-coded.

I need more of this comedic relief.

MORE!!

I also made this earlier, so I'll just add it here:

[kurishiri]

the most dysfunctional found family award goes to… Crown!

(/aff)

“huh?”

“huh???”

Harry’s like “yes sir and I’m damn proud of it sir.”

Alfons calling Liam “my dear kitty cat” is living in my mind rent free now hELP

[arthurs-puppygirl]

This is my boyfriend Elbert 💙

And this is Elbert’s boyfriend, Alfons 🖤

[theimaginativelyreticent]

Mirror, Mirror, on the Wall, Who has the Wickedest Dreams of all? || Alfons' Route Release CE ||

>> Alfons' Card Story || His POV <<

Victor || His POV ||

Ellis || His POV ||

Liam || His POV ||

William || His POV ||

Roger || His POV ||

Jude || His POV ||

Harrison || His POV ||

Elbert || His POV ||

POVs really depends on whether I get to the top100 but I'm only gonna make an effort for Elbie, Alfons, Jude, and William. Other's are... well, depends on my free heart points. hihi.

Alfons' has suuuuper hot scenes I tagged it as private for the meantime to protect my account, so the link will be attached late~~~ Unfortunately, I didn't get Harry, I never thought Jude's ranking's competitiveness would suddenly sparks like fire at the last day of the event😤. It's almost bloody as Al.😵 It's really a good thing, I didn't get ahead of myself and saved up as much to test the waters~~😮‍💨🥰 **All vids are uploaded on my channel : viennna sui. 💗💗💗Master Lists💗💗💗Main Masterlist 💗💗

Other Suitor's POV vid contributors: @bunnys-otome @missaengg @passthechloroform💗💗 Thank you so much for sharing your vid's link to me .