#alastor and rosie are queer platonic partner goals

[aspiringnexu]

I was rewatching episode 5 and the way Mimzy was interacting with Husker made me think. There wasn't a lot to go on besides Husker distrusting Mimzy and Mimzy clearly knowing that Husker is on Alastor's leash and has been 'slinging booze' for the Radio Demon for quite some time (maybe Al has had Husker as a spy in various bars to keep on top of Hell's gossip and information? Everyone wants to talk to the bartender, after all). But she did seem to take some joy in ordering Husk around.

I know we've all been coming up with theories as to why Alastor would bother to spare Husk when he came to Hell and wiped the board clean of Overlords (minus Zestial who Alastor seems somewhat wary of). Maybe he didn't want to go throught the bother of reshuffling the power structure again by killing off a recently risen Overlord or maybe he saw an opportunity for a powerful thrall.

Or maybe Mimzy, the woman who stole 50 grand from loan sharks presumably to pay off more imminent debts, got herself stuck in a contract with the Overlord of Gambling and Alastor had to go bail her ass out by playing for her soul in a poker game.

A game that went so well for Alastor that he ended up completely cleaning Husker out and then having the fallen Overlord sign his soul over as well.

I just really love the idea that Husk hates it when Alastor helps Mimzy because the last time he helped her his entire life went to shit.

[dreamwreaver]

It's because insisting a platonic relationship (nevermind slotting found family members into nuclear family roles that's a whole other can of worms) is familial gives them a moral high ground when they come across ships they don't like.

I've seen it a million times "oh they're father and daughter" oh, "they're creepy uncle and niece" and I side eye those the hardest because 1. They often infantilize the female to an insulting degree and 2. If they think some of these depictions are how actual irl older male/"younger" female (Charlie is technically many hundred of years older chronologically but physically maybe about five years younger) I worry for their relationships.

Nothing about Alastor and Charlie's dynamic shows them as business partners, maybe he finds her charming and mildly amusing. And maybe she enjoys having someone to fulfill her whims instead of just shooting them down for being impractical. There's no care, there's a lot of creepy touching and invading of personal space especially on alastor's end. But one important thing to note is that he makes exceptions for Charlie that he doesn't really make for anyone else. Both Mimzy and Rosie had to wait for consent from Alastor before engaging him in hugs. Charlie finds out he's alive;l, throws herself at him in a hug and he allows it even though he hasn't given any consent like normal.

But because they don't have the excuse of "Charlie's a lesbian" because she isn't, and even if she was to end up with Alastor in canon it wouldn't detract from either character's established queer identity, they now resort to the "they're [insert familial dynamic here]" as a way to justify their bullying. And that's what it is: bullying. It's not enough to just say "I don't like the dynamic" and move on blocking any and all appropriate tags if it squicks them that much. Modern fandom has such a moralistic element to it, if you don't like something it must therefore mean that thing is fundamentally bad/sinful/immoral and therefore anyone who does like it is a bad person irl who is allowed to be treated poorly. And you know how I know this?

Valentino cosplayers have been bullied into apologizing for liking the character. And let me be clear in my distinction, he's a bad person, but a great character. He's not on screen a lot but you get what type of person he is instantly. His va? By all accounts one of the nicest people. He literally was told once that someone was afraid of meeting him because they worried he was going to be exactly like Valentino. Clearly we have forgotten that VA stands for voice ACTOR. An actor that acts with their voice. There is no distinction in a lot of people's minds that an actor can embody a role without condoning every single action that character takes. And the moralization where the goal posts are consistently moved in fandom for ships does not help matters.

I'm also gonna say this, modern fandom is unnecessarily hostile to straight passing ships. Even though nothing about charlastor makes Charlie any less bi or any less aroace because it's a passing guy and girl couple. People insist charlastor is platonic and father/daughter but the popularity of radioapple ironically undercuts their arguments. Because controversial take; radioapple is charlastor but gay. It's enemies to lovers gay charlastor. Because alastor's aroace identity doesn't seem to get as much defensive haters in that tag, nor does the fact that Lucifer has explicitly stated he likes girls and has banged both of Adam's wives. Nope! He's gay and in love with the radio demon. Even though Alastor cannot stand men by and large and hates Lucifer especially (likely due to his issues with his own father abandoning him young). But again, they moralize everything. They don't like charlastor for whatever reason they have, and honestly good for them! No one says you have to like them! But to be mean to others that do?

In the immortal words of sonic the hedgehog; that's no good

Whats with hh fans hating on charlastor saying that they are father and daughter like 😭😭😭😭😭

I think It's bc of a "Hell's greatest dad" song, but yeah, actually they have no media litracy if they think he was serious