#actually if redemption arcs involve smothering someone with guilt and expecting them to come out pure of heart

[every-dayiwakeup]

Billy Hargrove's death was selfless, which means he died for others. But it's still not enough.

Say he ended up surviving the Mind Flayer. Would anything he does ever be enough to please this fandom?

I think we all know the answer to that.

It's very telling that if Billy had survived a majority of people would rather him go through a bunch of mandatory trials to fill some quota that let's be honest would never really be filled than separate him from his abusers so he can heal in a safe environment.

You'd rather have an abuse victim dance on hot coals for forgiveness than punish his abusers.