#Zul'Jin

[little-viking-draw]

Zul'jin: " Quick tour-"

[anielina13]

The chieftain and his children

[problematic-faves-appreciation]

Thinking about designated villains. I'm reminded in World Of Warcraft that the lore has settlers come to the land of natives that have lived there for thousands of years, immediately start colonizing the native's holy land, & than massacre the natives when they resist. The natives, Forest Trolls, and their leader Zul'jin are in the wrong according to the game, whilst the white humans and elves are "Right" apparently. The trolls are PoC Coded. Is it any wonder I prefer the "Villains"?

Yeah, it's pretty messed up how they are seen as "the ones in the wrong" by WoW lore.

[lendasdeazeroth]

Zul'jin

Introdução de Zul'jin: O Feroz Senhor da Guerra do Império Amani Zul'jin, conhecido como o feroz líder dos trolls da tribo Amani, é uma figura lendária marcada por sua resistência, inteligência astuta e profundo ódio contra os elfos de Quel'Thalas e a Aliança de Lordaeron. Originário da selva densa de Zul'Aman, Zul'jin foi de grande importância na história dos trolls da floresta, elevando seu ...

https://lendasdeazeroth.com.br/personagens/zuljin/

[lasnevadaslaborunion]

Sorry but I will NEVER miss an opportunity to complain about how the trolls from World of Warcraft are treated

[byrjl]

The Ama- Null Sector never gives up!

Been holding onto this thing for ages. I finally decided to just make Set look like crap in the last frame... because they kinda feel like crap after that impact.

[vepaluiron]

So my friend (B) and I realized that the Warcraft mod for Crusader Kings 3 (Guardians of Azeroth 2, its very cool) updated recently with a few new mechanics. We had a longer running game where I played as Sylvanas and B played as Vereesa, but that game had gotten so slow it refused to run. So, we decided, why not restart? We picked the earliest start point, I picked Sylvanas and B picked Alleria.

Interesting moments from our game so far:

alleria becoming a witch and then instantly turning sylvanas into a witch

me: SOMEBODY IS PLOTTING AGAINST MY SIS--- wait. is it you?

B: yeah its me LOL

sylvanas has ptsd, feels canon

zul'jin and sylvanas ended up becoming rivals. sylvanas lost this duel so hard she had a mental breakdown, which led to her becoming a gym rat

B: Is our grandpa spending our legacy points? me: No... Wait. *I* am the family heir. B: Wait, really? Oh.... me: Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

sylvanas being an incredible aunt, as expected

the scream i scrumpt, i was just trying to get her to not hate me after grandpapa's untimely demise

i saw this and was like. bro we have to take this man down, this is the last straw

cant avoid tragedy. at least lireesa's still alive?

and to round out the night, all hail the new regent-lady of quel'thalas!

other fun moments:

me deflecting the windrunner curse like my life depends on it. i dont know where all these men are coming from but BACK YOU VILE BEASTS

lirath's wife tried to kill him. in retrospect, her name was shar so i should've known this would've happened.

our uncle threw shit on me (because i killed grandpapa) so sylvanas now has the nickname "the Stinky". i will figure out how to change this, but unfortunately uncle paus windrunner will never see this >:)

i have a permanent religion debuff because B made a new religion that made polygamy holy, and sylvanas has a permanent "refusing to marry" trait

conversely, alleria has 3 husbands who wont stop accusing her of cheating despite polygamy being legal and encouraged

sylvanas finally ended up hooking up with a random elven woman in the woods during a hunt. good for her.

arthas somehow ended up being alleria's prisoner. he was in prison for 16 years before either of us realized it happened.

most of the original warcraft cast is dead. it has only been like 50 years. neither of us have any idea how this happened.

[do-you-know-this-queer-character]

For reference if you're a non Warcraft fan or haven't been keeping up with WoW, Warcraft has blatantly racially coded fantasy races like the trolls have jamaican accents, wear tiki masks and grass skirts, and practice voodoo in Jungles, whilst the tauren (Minotaurs) have feather headdress, smoke peace pipes, have totem poles and tepees, ETC.

Warcraft's so called new "woke" writers have doubled down on the "PoC coded monsters are evil" stuff with the very few good characters from those races being depicted as the "good ones" because they reject the savage ways of their people and side with white humans.

They've also whitewashed any bad actions from white characters.

Around the same time, Mathias Shaw was confirmed as gay, we got 2021's Shadowlands where:

There was a story with the pure and good white colonizers vs the completely evil savage natives that deserved to be wiped out because they didn't want to share.

Confirmation that the gods that the white races worshipped were real, whilst the gods of the tauren and other PoC coded races were fake.

An afterlife where all spirits are converted to bodies resembling caucasian humans.

A POC coded character (Zul'jin) that fought against the white colonizers that stole his land and treat his people as vermin to be exterminated, being one of the only characters being sent to Hell, whilst white characters whom did far worse weren't.

Real world revered voodoo loa Dambala being depicted as a God of evil that players are sent to kill.

So I think more people should've voted negatively on Mathias Shaw because whilst the character himself isn't racist, he's closely associated with horrible racist writing that thought throwing a white gay character in to their broke ass script script would somehow make it "woke".

I encourage people to interpret the poll options in whatever way they want, whether that's the character's writing, the strength of the representation, or their overall feelings on the media. I've talked about this before, but at the end of the day I am not trying to be an arbiter of what media is good and what's not, because I am simply not qualified to be. I sincerely appreciate when people send in asks like this detailing the issues with a piece of media so that other people can be more aware in the future. All posts like this are tagged with "media critical"!

[darkspear-dancers]

Your OC as a raid boss and all the fun details about location, phases, and abilities. (Ahua is not allowed to ever actually be one because she's living forever)

The Dance of the Darkspear

Akin to Legion's Trial of Valor, the Dance of the Darkspear is a three-boss raid that explores more troll lore. [Yes, yet another troll raid!] The raid is presented as a proving grounds and a history lesson at once, taking players from Dazar'alor to the Other Side on a mystic crucible.

Ahuatli and the Veildancers

The first encounter is a ceremonial performance of the sacred sisterhood, the Veildancers, located in the Loa's Sanctum of Dazar'alor.

Designed in the style of Lorewalker Stonestep in the Temple of the Jade Serpent, this encounter would select one of the veildancers to lead the performance, and each veildancer would tell their loa's tale.

From Bwonsamdi and Rezan to Xolotal and Xibala, well-known and obscure loa would both get their chances to shine, with specters and voodoobound golems opposing the adventurers.

Azae'latl and the Jaguar Warriors

Players would be whisked away from the holiest temples to the jungle primeval, where Azae'latl would enlist the reforged Order of the Jaguar Warriors to test the mettle of the adventurers.

The second trial would begin in a sacred cenote, against Jaguar Warriors of the past and present, in an encounter inspired by Master Snowdrift of the Shado-Pan Monastery.

In the final phase, the commotion would summon forth Tloque'Rakir, the jaguar loa of bloodlust, and all would have to battle the loa back into the depths of the cenote, sending it back to the Other Side.

Zul'Jawa and the War Dance

Players would remain in the underworld for the final fight, guided by Zul'Jawa and his ghostly greatfather, Zul'Izotl, both War Dancers welcoming the party to the final trial.

In this last lesson, a gathered host of ghostly trolls would engage all players in ritualistic combat. Deceased trolls of legend would return, with players having to remember time-tested tactics of Dazar from King's Rest, Zul'jin and Daakara from Zul'Aman, Tharon'ja from Drak'Tharon Keep, Jin'rokh the Breaker and High Priestess Mar'li from the Throne of Thunder!

The instance's final boss would be the dreaded Hakkar, again trying to escape from the realm of death and descending upon the players in a storm of blood. Only by enacting the War Dance, replicating the lessons learned from the history of trollish warfare over the ages, can the players outlast and overcome the Soulflayer a final time.

Lucky players might leave the Dance of the Darkspear with a rare jaguar or wind serpent mount, and achievement hunters would return to the Dance to complete side-objectives - winning dance-offs against each veildancer, winning games on an otherworldly ball court, or catching axolotls in the waters of the cenote!

[ Thank you so much @zeehva for this ask, I had an absolute blast with this! ^^ ]

[little-viking-draw]

-Incorrect Zul'jin qoute that I think suited him so I drew it-

[anielina13]

Fektess földbe édes párom

Boruljon rám örök álom

Eső mossa el a vérem

Fogadjon be avar mélye

Szellőtestvér szórd szét hamvam

Csermelyhúgom messzehordjad

Legyek magva új életnek

Bölcsője a születőnek

Ne sirassál édes párom

Itt maradok e világon

Megszületek, csillag leszek

Éjnek keblén megpihenek

__________

Не плачь обо мне, друг мой милый.

Хоть взор мой сном вечным затмило,

Лишь кровь обернется водой,

А дух воспарит над землей.

Развеют ветра в диком поле

Мой прах, ни о чем не жалея.

Средь скорби, печали и горя

Трава да цветы пусть созреют.

Не плачь обо мне, друг мой милый.

Душа моя небом хранима.

Она станет яркой звездой,

И каждую ночь я буду с тобой.

[transchromememorysaver-blog]

Okay, for a thorough/serious answer (lumping together those most similar)...

Maiev would do the best job of the surgery. She's unnervingly skilled with sharp things, almost certainly has experience (if anything this'll probably be the easiest one she's done for centuries) and the composure. Her bedside manner's probably better than most think, as long as she doesn't think poorly of you, or have reason to want you dead... Which maaaay be a problem for some.

Asking Garrosh to do it is begging to die. A puny bonesaw and knife? Bah! Chop it off with Gorehowl! What are you, a wuss? Long term wound care? Pfft, weakling! You're not an orc or maybe a tauren? Why should I care if you live!

Halduron and Taran Zhu are probably similar to Maiev, only toned down. You're not going to get quite as perfect and quick a job done, but it'll be done well by someone who knows what they're doing, and almost certainly won't kill you. Taran may bitch you out if you got the injury in a fight though. Even if it was self defense. Fuck you Taran. Faran.

Taelia would probably be a good choice for long term care, seeing as she's a paladin. I just don't know enough about her to say too much, I get the feeling she's relatively young, some perhaps wouldn't be as skilled in the amputation itself? Ideally you'd get someone else to do that part, and she'd make sure it heals well.

Nazgrim is a Death Knight. The only reason you choose him is when the injury is so bad only necromancy can save you. Otherwise you're just asking for an infection or accidental dark magic infusion.

Muradin's biggest problem is that dwarves are really goddamn tough. I'd be concerned that he didn't know enough about how much blood loss I could take unless I were also a dwarf.

I joked about Khadgar, but he really does depend on how he's being written. Serious Khadgar probably wouldn't be comfortable doing it himself, so he'd try to find someone who knows what they're doing to perform it, or at least instruct him as he does it. And even if it's not the best job he'd take very care of you. Dadgar though...

Eitrigg would probably do a decent enough job, but it wouldn't be pretty and it would hurt. Brutally practical in short.

Bonus Zul'jin: Did such a good job the first time he didn't even bother regenerating. However, would an artist on his level deign to repeat himself? More importantly, he'd probably be Eitrigg level surgery, Garrosh level bedside manner.

So your best choices are probably A) Khadgar getting help B) Maiev amputating (if she doesn't plan to kill you) B.5) Halduron amputating if she does C) Taelia healing you up afterwards

Explain in the tags I love reading people's thought processes.

[skymagpie]

Mists of Pandaria literally took a dwarf character, previously rightfully depicted as a scumbag villain because he wiped out an entire tribe of tauren whilst citing imperialism and racial superiority, and depicted him as a good guy out to protect the pandaren whilst vilifying the tauren for resisting him!

Not to mention that they retconned nearly the entire orc race as evil in that expansion with countless promising orc characters previously depicted as honorable and likable like Zaela, the entire Kor'kron organization, Bloodhilt, ETC becoming Garrosh clones simply because they were orcs and "orcs are inherently bad".

Or that the tie in novels for Mists of Pandaria like Tides of War literally had Baine freaking out and exiling tauren for resisting human and dwarf colonization of their lands.

Vol'jin, one of the only Poc coded monsters to be depicted in a decnet light in MOP, was literally described by the Alliance player as "Disgusting", "savage", and other terms, with the game even adding flies around Vol'jin for this quest.

Before you say thats just the Alliance player's view, white characters never get this description like say human characters when you're playing Horde.

For reference, Shadowlands demonized Dambala, a revered and famous real world loa worshipped in Haiti and many other parts of the World.

The same expansion almost exclusively had PoC coded monsters in the Hell portions, like Zul'jin was in Hell for protecting his lands against colonists that are so proud of their genocide of trolls, their leaders name themselves after it(Trollbanes) the recent Sylvanas novel even clarified that the humans and High Elves knew that it was the Amani's land when they made their homes there from the stone obelisks decorated with troll holy symbols and writing.

It has also been confirmed in recent novels that the tauren gods are fake whilst the night elf gods are real...

And the tauren's oppressor whom had been frequently terrorizing the earth throughout World of Warcraft's history, Magni Bronzebeard, literally got the role of voice of Azeroth like the true Mighty Whitey he is.

Warcraft III for all its racial coding never had anything like this and Warcraft I and II did not have this much racial coding.

So the Doubling down on the racial coding and the "PoC Coded monsters are evil" stuff was done by the modern writers that go "look at how woke we are, two white women are gay an we retconned another white character to be trans, now lets kill some voodoo worshipping savages in the Jungle together!"

Anyhow, sorry I have strong feelings about this as someone whom isn't white myself.

This is sadly a very extensive list and I have no doubt is only part of the problem. I used to play WoW when I was 13 which was 13 years ago and I didn't speak English then so I didn't really know lore. I came back only recently and the few things I played were some BfA (Kul Tiras side), all of Dragonflight and some Legion and a bit of Shadowlands. I haven't touched the other things aside from the vague knowledge of what is going on. I have to keep an eye on these things as I play on because I didn't know most of it.

Hell they do stupid colonialist tropes even with white-coded races, like I am sure the Drust are supposed to be Celtic coded and yet they also have them portrayed as bad for not wanting the Kul Tirans on their land.

I feel like when they do something good for the non-white coded races, it is always played safe for the general playerbase of the cishet white dudes who want their racist stereotypes intact. They always seem to be pussyfooting around the issue without making any meaningful change. They want to make sure they won't offend their biggest racist consumer base and that is so sad. Blizzard has potent racism 10 years behind everyone else.

Also I am sorry you have to write so much, but thank you for sharing this and I hope more people are made aware of it. It's okay to always vent here for anything, and I will eventually catch up with playing the content.

[artschoolrejectsblog]

It's my favorite boy Zul'jin, I still feel like they did him dirty in the games

[wowtalesofadventurers]

OC-tober day 11 from the perspective of someone who hates them

A World of Warcraft fanfiction for @thepromptfoundry event OC-tober day 11 from the perspective of someone who hates them.

The troll leader of the Amani Empire would never forgive the elves for what they did to his people, even that elf paladin woman Melina whose killed his tribe past leader Zul'jin with a group of Horde heroes. The Amani leader is now waiting for the moment to get revenge for his people on Melina and the elves.