#Zavok in Forces was just a phantom copy and in Sonic Lost World Eggman had to literally mind control/torture him to do what he wanted.

[jouska-the-deer]

Looking at how Sonic Prime has everyone (except Sonic and main Knuckles with Devon Mack and Adam Nurada) voiced by MLP Friendship is Magic veterans so far, ever get the feeling that if Cream the Rabbit ever shows up in the show or at least a show by the same team as Prime, she'd likely be voiced by Andrea Libman (Fluttershy/Pinkie Pie). Andrea sure would fit her like a glove.

I would honestly love for that to happen. Fluttershy was my favorite of the G4 ponies and Andrea Libman would really be able to do Cream justice.

Though, I have to admit, I don't have high hopes for Cream appearing in anything these days. What was even the last game she was in? Generations? She wasn't even in Team Sonic Racing, a cart racer. Yeah the characters/cars were grouped into Speed, Technique, and Power instead of Speed, Flight, and Power like in Heroes, but honestly, whatever. I'd've had an easier time accepting Cream as a technique racer than I had accepting Zavok... being in the game at all. But no, instead Cream's spot on Team Rose was taken by 4 random chao, one of whom being a robot who's currently a wanted criminal.

I guess to be fair to Sonic Team, TSR already had a billion characters to juggle and it looked hard enough to justify the appearance of a large chunk of them, so even if Cream was there, her role wouldn't have been any greater than the 4 chao in a trench coat anyway. And to be fair to Omochao, they served as a hint guide for plenty of games and also managed to become a medical professional before eventually going on the run for committing medical malpractice.

[salemwazowski]

OK SO!!!! Zavok made his debut in Sonic Lost World, and has a prominent roles in Team Sonic Racing and Also kinda Sonic Forces? He's in a TOOON of other games tho!! Also, he appears in the IDW comics as an antagonist for a 2-3 different arcs! I'll give you the specific issue numbers if you want them :3!! Aaaah I don't know how much you're already Aware Of so I'll just start from the Very Very basics dnfjsjx

Zavok is the leader of the Deadly Six, a group of six Zeti from the Lost Hex! It's like. A Continent floating Above the established Sonic World, as far as I'm aware. Unlike other villains of note, Zavok is fine relying on his teammates, but he is fine using them as a means to an end. Zavok as a character is very Brutal and Destructive, BUT he also keeps a very calm and powerful demeanor, and at one point in the comics is able to out-wit an otherwise very smart character! He's overall pretty calculated, but also brutal in nature. In Sonic Forces, Infinite makes a Phantom Copy of Zavok (because that's like, his thing), and he retains the same personality! Because Zavok had that much focus in Forces and TSR, it makes me think that Eggman holds him in a sorta high regard! It is Not Reciprocated, but Zavok will work with Eggman if there's a proper cause for it!

UMMMM HE IS VERY 😳😳😳😳

[geek-gem]

About the villains in Sonic Forces

10:53 pm so I've talked about how I was very excited to see just the idea of characters like Chaos, Zavok and just also Metal Sonic, and Shadow appearing all in one game.

I'm gonna mention spoilers and I'm gonna talk about Infinite too.

Dr. Eggman their isn't much wrong with him. But it's the way they handled the other characters.

So instead of actually all four of those characters teaming up. It's this stupid idea and that they are actually fake. They are illusions okay had to use other screen Google where I'm at on the Sonic Lost World Wikipedia page almost put Sonic Forces.

Seriously even Metal Sonic and Shadow. Including spoilers oh yeah theirs not just no fight with Chaos but not even Shadow too.

In fact I just remembered the Chaos Emeralds they aren't anywhere.

Okay think I'm gonna talk about Infinite in another post.

But alright I will mention this.

I seriously kept going like WHAT WHAT WHAT at the sight that Shadow who's on the dark side again is just an illusions instead. Remember when people like me were sadden by the sight of that. Also Chaos is a sad story too. But just nothing.

Including I'm just bothered of how lazy it is this idea. Okay yes the Phantom Ruby and the illusions being hurtful.

But just what was the point of even doing shit like this.

Including the amazing ideas of actually having Metal Sonic be there instead of some fake copy an illusions, the idea of the Deadly Six putting aside their differences and hatred for Dr. Eggman wanting to kill Sonic and the world again.

Also ideas of Chaos being corrupted again or even mind controlled. Even Shadow and him being controlled just to mess with our emotions.

Okay honestly it would be difficult for Zavok to deal with Eggman again after Sonic Lost World since in the beginning he was making them his slaves. Honestly didn't mind the Deadly Six that much.

Also Chaos I made mainly a silly post about it. But remember everyone making jokes of Shadow being evil. I was thinking the same about Chaos and how heart broken Tikal would be and imagine a boss fight.

Or even the idea of Shadow being mind controlled.

Basically just the idea of Infinite being so overpowered he can control two God's. One is an actual God and ones not but in a way.

The God Of Destruction, and The Ultimate Lifeform under Infinite's and Eggman's controls.

Yet we even thought this now we have pussy versions of them imagine fighting Perfect Chaos again.

Including just the end has and I remember seeing concept art and just theirs an army of other versions of them said it sucks in my head wait just.... okay seriously the fuck. 11:08 got tags done now 11:09

Honestly just I felt it was a missed opportunity and just wanted to say something else. It just being a missed opportunity that sucks seriously edit 11:23 pm or 2nd edit put the spoilers tag will do the rest now