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you saw endgame! please share with the class! assemble!
haha, okay, wellāhereās some thoughts, since weāre far enough out that I donāt think this will be too spoilery for people ā but itās gonna be super long, so itās under a cut, either way:
Well, it wasāspectacular! In that it was literally a spectacle, for one thing. I had pretty lowered expectations after not particularly enjoying Captain Marvel (it was fine, but boring) or Infinity War for that matter (better-made, but the stakes were obviously nonexistent because we knew somethingĀ was going to be done). Here, thoughā¦ I just really, thoroughly enjoyed it. It was thoughtfully done, well-executed, and just as a moment of payoffĀ for those of us who have been here all ten yearsā¦ It was just really something. I saw Iron Man on opening weekend in 2008 and fell in love, and even if I havenāt loved every single movie since then, I feel like Marvel just sent me a love letter, and I was soāglad. What a good movie-going experience it was.
I say all that having seen SO MUCH rending of garments and gnashing of teeth from the !stans and shippers, but all of thatās so very much missing the point. This is the story of *this series*, this great arc that led to this point. The thing to remember is that the MCU is fanfiction itselfāitās based off of characters who are based off of characters from a canon thatās been rebooted and re-blended about a billion times. This is the story this group of fic-writers, essentially, chose to tell, and I think they did it pretty damn well. You can write your own fic where Steve weeps into Buckyās hair for 70 years if you want to. This story isnāt that, and thatās okay. (Genuinely, if fandomites could take like halfĀ a step back theyād be much happier people. I know itās hardāIāve been in a process of letting go with SPN that I havenāt really managed to do wellābut cāmon. Donāt get so het up about it.)
Some things:
1) I was genuinely impressed with the time travel mechanism, especially as it bounced meta-ly off of other examples weāve seen in pop culture. Finally, a story that allows ACTUAL alternate-universe time travel instead of boring-ass time loops. Iāve always thought it was spectacularly dumb when the worry isļæ½ļæ½ābut if I kill myself in the past, Iāll die now!ā Nope! Avoided! Thank you, folks. Itās kind of weirding me out that so many people online seem confused about how the time travel worked, but it was incredibly clean and I just want to high five the people involved. The one thing that seemed like a plot hole was Old Steve at the end, with the implication that he was co-existent in this timeline for 70 years (and did nothing about Hydra??)ābut then the Russos said that they assume he went to an alternate timeline, and then came back to this one to give Sam the shield. It wasnāt on screen either way so you can make your own headcanon, but Iām good with that. So: successful time travel. Hoo-fucking-rah.
2) Thor. This was the one real spoiler I had going in, that Thor Got Fat. All this weeping about how heād been mistreated by the narrative. So, I was pre-emptively worriedā¦ and then ended up not thinking it was that bad. Look, Iām a chubster, Iām well-aware of how sensitive that can be for people. What I found interesting about it was that it was, yes, kind of a visual joke, just because The God of Abs was a pudge, but it was actually treated remarkably kindly by every character for whom that would be in-character. Meaning, sure, Rocket makes fun of him, and Rhodeyās kind of a dick (because Rhodeyās like that with Tony, even)ābut Bruce, Steve, and even Tony all deal with him quite gently. That scene where he tries to volunteer for the gauntlet and Tony carefully holds him back was so sweet and sad. Poor guy. It was a good exploration of the depths that the last ~10 years of his life have pummeled him into. It wasnāt that he was fat, itās that he was broken. People will make up their own minds about the equivalencies there and whatās being implied, but it was a good visual metaphor as far as I was concerned. If he were ājustā a sad drunk no one would have believed that he wasnāt ready for what was coming, and he wasnāt. But he got better, because his friends really were there for him. (Also, Korg was wearing Taikaās pineapple shirt! I hope there are nice fics where Korg and Maik gently just play XBox with Thor because thatās all they can do for him.)Ā
Also on Thor, re: Thor/Loki ā more rending of garments about how he didnāt go see Loki. Letās think about this: youāre on a top-secret time mission to save the universe (Time Heist!), and you go see your trickster godĀ little brother who, yes, you miss, but who also hates you at this point in his life. Thatāll go well. I completely understand why there wasnāt a scene. The scene with Frigga was all I needed there.
3) Steeb: Iāve never been theā¦ biggest fan of Steve. I mean, heās fine. His character is caught awkwardly between the man, Steve Rogers, who abhors bullies and will break rules to do whatās right, and between The Man, Captain America, who kinda Is Rules and needs to do whatās right but also represents an idea greater than himself. Thereās a lot of wonderful tension there, but the movies havenāt particularly capitalized on it, and when theyāve tried itās been in a lip-servicey way.
That said, this movie deals with it really, really well, I think. At the beginning heās trying to live, and isnāt doing a great job of it. The plan they come up with is simple, perfect heroism ā heās not representing an Ideal, but he is one: heās the man and the ideal simultaneously, that striving toward right will eventually create a more just, fairer world. If sacrifice is required heās willing to make it. That scene of him standing alone against the massed forces of Thanos with his broken shield strapped tight to his arm is like a distillation of who Captain America shouldĀ be. Iām so glad we got that, at the end.
As someone who doesnāt invest in Steve/Bucky but who completely understands it, I also see no issue with the thing where he goes back to Peggy. Bucky understands, too. That moment where they hug and he tells Steve, so-softly,Ā āIāll miss you,ā oh man, oof. Bucky knows. I hope thereās a lot of pining!Bucky in that fandom, yāall are missing out on a STELLAR opportunity if not. Especially pining!Bucky where Steve knowsĀ and can only do his best to be Buckyās friend. Steve going back isnāt out of character, either, despite the clamoring. He misses Peggy, he misses peace. Who knows what they got up to in that alternate timelineāmaybe he and Peg went and routed Hydra early, maybe they saved Bucky, maybe they had a WWThreesome with Buck, whatever. But Natasha and Tony both told Steve toĀ āget a life,ā and he finally got to. Heād done enough. He earned it.
4) OH MY GOD, NATASHA. What a character arc. I frigginā adore the mirroring of her and Clintās stories. The brutal assassin who gained a family and learned what it meant to love something so much she wanted to sacrifice herself for itāthose scenes on Vormire were heartbreaking. Iām also super glad that the movie paused, after that. Someone called her deathĀ āfridgingā ā wow. No. She was a hero, as much as Tony was. Whatever it takes.
5) Tony. Holy shit. In a lot of ways this was his movieāin a more meta way, it was RDJās movie, and Favreauās, and Feigeās. It all started with Iron Man, and thatās where it ended. There wasnāt a stinger scene because we got that funeral and then the moment in the credits with the originals signing the screen, and of course they saved Robert for last. The success of this movie is really a testament to the risk everyone took, way back then. It sure as hell paid off.
āYou wouldnāt lay down on a grenade to save your men,ā Steve said. How many different ways can Tony prove him wrong? At least once more. ;-;Ā Iām just super emotional about the whole thing. So many good moments all leading up to what happened. Little Morgan in his helmet, Pepperās faith. Steveās faith, for that matter. (I still have a tiny pocket of my heart reserved for Steve/Tony, no matter how non-canon it is. What a great relationship they have.) The panic and misery when Carol brought them back, calling Steve a liar, and Steve justāgentle with him, again, and how there was no anger there anymore. Argh.Ā
Thatās the thing that I think I appreciated about the movie most, in the end. Despite all the craziness, the spectacle, the easter eggs slinging at you left and right (āHail Hydra.ā !!!!!!!!!!!!!), what I loved most is that in the face of this ultimate goal, this literally universe-saving moment, the stakes were actually feltĀ because the characters (and actors, and script) sold how unimaginably important it was. Interpersonal bickering fell by the wayside; any dumb conflicts just washed away. No drama for its own sake, or manufactured arguments. Justāworking together. The Avengers we hoped to get in the aftermath of the first team movie. We gotĀ āem, finally, even if we lost a lot too.
This all sounds super elegiac, I guess. It sort of is. It wasnāt a perfect movie by any means, but it might be perfect for what it meant to do, and what it set out to do. There were a couple of little nitpicky things that I might change, but theyāre so small so as not even to be mentioned. And so many more tiny moments that I loved, loved, loved. Itās the first one of these movies that Iāve wanted to rewatch in literal years, and thatās making me really happy all on its own. Iām just left with this utterā¦ satisfaction. Not sad, just happy that they made it worth my while.
Put another way: when I was leaving Shazam I felt like Iād spent about 4 hours wasting my time. When I was leaving Endgame, I felt like it had been an instant. Just yay, allĀ āround. I loved it three thousand.
What did youĀ think?
#ombrecoeur#avengers#endgame spoilers#...i have a sneaking feeling i could get hate for this#pls note that the views above are the sole property of etc etc#i just really liked it is all#just a lot#i keep thinking about it#keep thinking about little moments that were great#and if that isn't a satisfying movie experience idk what is
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āHeās staying inside and reading a bookā WRONGā¼ļø GO FOR A WALK š„š„š„
#welcome home arg#welcome home eddie#welcome home#welcome home frank#eddie x frank#frank x eddie#Wow what a nice couple I sure hope the narrative treats them kindly#eddie dear#frank frankly
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