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#Will Graham does not sit there at his gay little desk with his gay little vice
madqueenalanna · 11 months
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on the one hand i appreciate everyone enjoying the post i made about will graham. on the other, calling what he ties "lures" takes 15 years off my life
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ghostdrinkssoup · 2 years
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and we’re back with another hannibal notes/reactions (s1 ep7) except it’s just the silly goofy ones:
why does will talk about the ripper with such reverence 😭
gotta love the camera coming out the throat
why is hannibal acting so cute I want to crush him in my fist
franklyn is a weirdo but maybe I’m a franklyn apologist hannibal brings out the inner weirdo in people </3
hannibal is so phantom coded he wants to be the phantom soooo bad
HANNIBAL’S FACIAL EXPRESSIONS HE’S SO PUT OFF BY FRANKLYN FR
tobias casually outing franklyn like that’s the first red flag 🚩
the lingering look hannibal gives tobias… killer sees killer (but also it’s flirtatious as helllll gay sees gay)
JUST REMEMBERED BEDELIA APPEARS IN THIS EPISODE I’M BLUSHING AND TWIRLING MY HAIR <333
will is so babygirl this episode idk what it is maybe it’s the hair
will is like u don’t know him like I do (the ripper, who he has never technically met)
I kinda wanna see that church kill. sounds slay
franklyn is in his parasocial arc someone grab the “I am not your friend” meme
hannibal is honest but not honest I fucking hate him *holds him so gently*
“I have friends” WHO KING WHO
hannibal is grinning, moving around, so openly animated and childlike around will. he’s got the biggest crush too oh dear
“especially for evening appointments 😊💖🫶”
they are literally on a date hello
HE LOOKS AT WILL SO FONDLY killing myself
NOT WILL LAUGHING AT THE IDEA OF HANNIBAL HAVING FRIENDS TAKE THE L ?????
hannibal rlly dropping all the hints for no reason 😭 also not him licking his lips I want to ask mads mikkelsen what was going through his little mind when he did this
there’s no way the writers were unaware how gay they made this right ?? like there’s no way
I can allow this murder. mans was rude as hell and homophobic. it’s basically justice 🤷‍♀️
*whispers* the beer is people alana
hannibal flirting with alana to find out more about will okayyyy
love hannibal going on a murder spree and making a feast he’s going wild going stupid crazy
why do I find him so endearing </3
WILL DOESN’T SHOW UP AND THE MUSIC IS SUDDENLY SO DRAMATIC PLEASEEE
hannibal was so excited to open the door and see will whyyy *head in hands*
I’m crying the way the desk is lit like a dramatic spotlight as hannibal sits alone, checking the appointments
meanwhile will is vividly hallucinating 😭
“it’s better that it’s just the two of us” immediately being followed by hannibal saying will’s name SHUT UPPPP
CAN’T BELIEVE HANNIBAL WENT TO FIND WILL THAT IS SUCH A LONG DRIVE
hannibal would’ve killed anyone else for this let’s be real but with will he’s like 🥺 don’t be sorry baby it’s okay
hannibal invented cancel culture
maybe im in love with beverly katz maybe it’s maybelline
“where’s will graham?” idk flirting with his psychiatrist again probably
“this is very educational” literally shut up 😭
the look THE LOOK
ICONIC
tfw you see your hot psychiatrist put his hands in another man 😳🥵
“are you sure you can’t stay?” I’m crying brb
WILL BROUGHT WINE :((((
“I don’t think I would be good company” “I disagree” AAAAAAAAA
hannibal just ask him out ffs
“I have a date with the chesapeake ripper” hannibal is screaming internally and so am I
the little smile will gives him :(( naur :((
“nothing here is vegetarian” I hate you so much please seek help 💖🚩
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So I recently went a little... Red-string-cork-board-wild for a very minuscule reason. Namely, I wanted to try and figure out if there was any evidence to back up the fanon of whether or not Graham Folger & Oliver Banks had ever been in a relationship for... Reasons.
To start with, I decided to relisten to MAG 003 just for a lil refresher on who the hell Graham even was (emphasis on the was, lmao). Now, the statement was first catalogued in 2007, but the actual events of the statement take place on 2005; first possible hole in the theory, because, in MAG 011, Oliver, under the alias of Antonio Blake, states that his relationship with "Graham" ended 8 years previous to when he gave his statement to the Magnus Institute, which was given in 2015; which means Oliver's relationship would've ended in 2007.
Why do I point this out though?
Mostly because during MAG 003, when Amy Patel has to chill in Graham Folger's flat due to being concussed, and in an attempt to reassure her, all Graham Folger says is "no worries, I'm gay ✌️" which, okay, that's reassuring, sure... But wouldn't it have been more reassuring to say, "Not only am I hella gay, but I'm also seeing someone." Now, sure, maybe because this is '05 and they don't really know each other that well, he probably thought that would be a little TMI, but then again I feel like "oh I'm seeing someone" is significantly less TMI then just flat-out coming out to someone. Either way, later Amy spends essentially weeks or months watching this dude, and he's always. Alone.
And when she described Graham Folger's flat, it didn't sound like a place TWO (2) people were sharing, it barely sounded like there was one person living there. (And Oliver mentions that he'd been in a SIX (6) YEAR relationship, with a shared living space). A little sus, but... Amy does also say that Mr. Folger spends an awful lot of time outside of his apartment so... Double life maybe? Perhaps.
-- Impromptu read more because this got longer than I intended! So the rest is under the cut --
But now let's take a long look at MAG 011, where Oliver, or Antonio if that's easier for anyone? Nah, let's keep it as Oliver— anyways, MAG 011 takes place in 2015, 8 years prior is 2007; but then.. 6 years prior to that, when Oliver's relationship with "Graham" would’ve started... That would've been in 2001 🤔 now why does that particular year ring a bell? Well, that's because in 2001 is when Graham Folger's parents passed away; which would MEAN THAT, if these two had ever dated, then either it would've been just after Graham Folger had lost his parents, OR, the accident would have happened during the start of their relationship. And I do hear that stuff like that either makes or breaks a relationship, so; hey, maybe they would've had problems from the start. Doomed to end before it began, y'know.
But this is what actually made me go back and relisten in MAG 003, again; because I wasn't 100% on that because for whatever reason I had the year 2003 stuck in my head, IDK. Anyways, it was while I was relistening to MAG 003, again, that I realized my timeline... Wasn't entirely correct. Because Amy Patel, yes she first met Graham Folger in 2005; but it was in September 2005; and the real meat of the statement doesn't start until about 4 months after that initial encounter— which means Amy would've started Graham-watching in Dec. 2005 or Jan. 2006.
You know what else I found rather interesting? In the closing comments for this statement that the Archivist gives us, the apartment under Graham Folger's name was sold in... Early 2007. I wonder... How closely that might actually line up with whenever Oliver Banks apparently ended his relationship with "Graham".
But let's loop back to the "Dec. 2005 or Jan. 2006" bit, because in the supposed timeline given to us in Oliver's statement (MAG 011), he and his "Graham" started having issues a year prior to the official break-up. Maybe that's why Amy never would've seen Graham Folger's partner, in the assumption that he had one, because they was havin' issues, so if Graham Folger had a partner, maybe they weren't hanging about too much.
Alternatively, maybe the real kicker, the Real end to this, alleged, relationship, was because things just started being Different around the start of 2006; say maybe around April? April 7th of 2006 if we want to get real specific. Maybe it was after that day that the relationship got just a bit too much.
Maybe, in the last year of this alleged relationship between Oliver Banks and Graham Folger, maybe Oliver tried to make things work, but there was just something so off about "Graham" so... Not-him, and yet this is still the man that Oliver looks at and remembers spending almost 6 years of his life with. But maybe things get just weird enough that, Oliver just does some digging, maybe he's looking for some excuse some reason for why Graham seems so different but so familiar. Maybe there was an update on the accident that happened (either before or after they got together) and it's having an affect on "Graham". Let's say he does this little research deep-dive while at work too. So he's just sitting at his desk, scrolling through old news, etc. etc, maybe checking new stuff, who knows. (And assuming that even digital scans of polaroids are also untampered) He comes across an old picture that, sure enough those are the Folger Parents, but who the hell is that dark haired teenager in the picture?
Now why would this be happening why Oliver is at work? Well, because in MAG 011, Oliver states that he had a breakdown at work that required him to take leave and supposedly helped to fuel his breakup which then left him on a friend's couch. Obviously it could actually be the other way around; that the break-up was the catalyst for the breakdown at work, but this is no longer a post about why Graham Folger and Oliver Banks weren't a thing, but rather a post on why it would hurt so much if they had been.
Because we're gonna switch gears now and take a peek from Not-Graham's perspective. Because what does Not-Graham, the Not-Them, want? Well, we know they like scaring and upsetting people, but Graham Folger isn't exactly a socialite and apparently didn't have enough of an outstanding presence that made him particularly rememberable. But you know what he did have? The table. The same table that the Not-Them really wanted to have smashed up in... MAG 039, I think (IDK main plot is just an entrée for me right now, not super important y'know). So, sure Graham Folger doesn't have a lot of people in his life, but he's got this partner that he was already having a rocky relationship with, so why not make that relationship even more unbearable on the other party? Just make it absolutely intolerable, in the hopes that the partner might just get fed up enough to do something irrational, like smash a table that apparently means just so, so much to "Graham". But in the end that doesn't work, because the partner just ends up dippin' out (side note: love the idea that Oliver is petty in the way that instead of destroying something that he knows his partner is fond of, he just like, sells the fucking table off instead, send the Not-Them on another wild goose chase to find it again, because that would be funny as fuck).
Regardless, around the beginning of 2007, the two will have broken up, and Not-Graham no longer has a reason to keep that flat so it gets sold, because the Not-Them either has the table and fucks off after that, or they gotta start all over again trying to find it, and Oliver cuts ties and starts crashing on a friend's couch.
It's circumstantial, sure. But when you really look at it... The timeline does actually match up pretty well, and I think that's pretty cool.
Anyways, that's all for now. Whether or not Graham Folger & Oliver Banks ever actually had a relationship in canon, who can say.
But if Oliver's "Graham" isn't Graham Folger, then who is it? Well, not to mix podcasts, but anyone here ever listen to The White Vault?
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