#Vs penelope wanting to nothing with him bc she is in love with him
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Penelope and Callisto's relationship drama is so fucking funny no matter how many times I reread the story. It literally goes like
Callisto: I WANT TO MARRY YOU
Penelope: I WANT TO BE LOVED
Callisto: LOVE DOESN'T EXIST, MY TRAUMATIC CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES MAKE ME BELIEVE SO
Penelope: THEN WHY DO YOU WANT TO MARRY ME ASSHOLE
Callisto: YOU ARE THE SMARTEST FUNNIEST LOVELIEST PERSON ALIVE AND I WANT TO SPEND THE REST OF MY LIFE WITH YOU???
Penelope: BUT YOU DON'T LOVE ME AND I LOVE YOU SO I WILL NEVER MARRY YOU
Callisto: GIRL FUCK YOU
Penelope: FUCK YOU TOO ASSHOLE
Callisto: WHATEVER. I WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK TO BEG AGAIN
Penelope: I WILL LITERALLY BE DEAD BY NEXT WEEK BUT OK
#LIKE WHYYY#Callisto literally defining love and then saying love doesnt exist#Vs penelope wanting to nothing with him bc she is in love with him#Craziest couple of the century#Death is the only ending for the villainess#Penelope eckart#Callisto regulus#Things i'm reading
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The change in the Polin dynamic from book to show always made me think the betrayal of Whistledown would be different and lead to a different reaction from Colin. Show!Colin my baby boy, not needing to be told to go dance with Pen and also “seeking her out at every social assembly” 🥹 He didn’t need 12 years to realize she was great company. I’m not too upset at Pen/LW reading him for filth for story purposes bc I don’t want to imagine a scenario where they leaned more on the S1 of it all. It’s just unfortunate that they amplified his hate/anger to give something for Pen to be punished over. That’s where I think the “girl boss” writing fails bc the show clearly likes LW as a narrative concept but Pen has to suffer consequences for it.
I also don’t mind that they wanted to keep LW for the story but how are they gonna pull off her getting info now? Everyone knows her identity and girlie is married to a Bridgerton. Unless they’re going to argue no one sees her bc of how short she is, I can’t see her just blending into the wall anymore.
oh yeah for sure.
they have a much closer friendship in the show from the start which is good, tbh. so there was always going to be a different reaction to him finding out that she was LW. book!colin being aware that she has some feelings for him so him treating her extremely appropriately makes sense. he likes her and doesn't want to lead her on so there's no fun flirting like he does with the other girls he's also not interested in but i always found that a little sad for penelope since the man who is probably the friendliest with her still maintains some distance to spare her feelings until she finally "lets him off the hook" when she is pretty firmly on the shelf. which, of course, immediately annoys him, ha. protesting too much, my guy.
show!colin having no idea is great and i love it, ha. also he's got no concept of propriety with penelope most of the time and that just makes for fun scenarios.
yeah, leaning into his anger over it was wild but also the show trends towards internal conflict over external, which is a weakness in the writing when it comes to polin because their conflict was a mix of both. there's nothing to really punish colin for and all of pen's biggest fumbles have been both colin and eloise related so i get it but it was overdone in my opinion. bringing in the queen as a foil was a wild choice since the whole "LW has as much influence as the queen" is lip service at best.
i think it also throws people because there's no 3rd act breakup (which i appreciate actually, i think that's overdone because if you tell me these people are desperately in love and then at the first struggle they break up, uhhhh are they in love? you sure?) so there has to be some sort of issue/angst to cause emotional distance over physical distance and with colin having more reason to be distant vs penelope, you get a dude sleeping on his sofa.
you know, i think that's going to be the biggest thing for the LW storyline from now on. outside of the queen or whatever, she's got a husband who never lets her alone and people will be aware of who she is now. maybe she has a network, there's no way the servants aren't loyal to her and you know they knew what she was up to. rae was on screen for less than 2 minutes before you knew who she was loyal to. and penelope has been shown to care about the working class and be fair minded so if they're smart, they'll use that to their advantage.
#asks#anon#polin#colin x penelope#listen it's so sad they gave away some of colin's book canon traits to someone else 👀#penelope's sense of loyalty and fairness will probably pay off in some way tho i would think
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🦄 hey do you ever think about the softly gasped "no" in the beginning scene of route 66 when hotch woke from his nap in his office. it makes me think he had a nightmare bc right after he called jessica to check on jack. and then he passed out from internal bleeding and had a nightmare about haley and foyet. and it wasn't even about his trauma, the writers made it about his guilt over his growing relationship with beth. like... i so wish therapy wasn't treated derisively in the show bc literally everyone in the team needed it. aaron and beth probs needed therapy to figure out how to get pass "my ex-wife was murdered by a serial killer and i never processed that" vs "fuck i just thought he was hot okay." jack... jack probs needs sooo much therapy i mean. he heard his mom being murdered AND multiple gunshots and crashes cuz his dad was fighting with the dude while he was in the next room. like.. geez... also like how come the team gets therapy after emily dies but after hotch's wife gets murder he doesn't get mandatory therapy??? like haley wasn't a team member but considering she was aaron's wife.. shouldn't that be something. also while we're at it.. why isn't jessica in therapy??? her sister who she is shown to be v close with got murdered by a serial killer. taking care of jack isn't gonna solve all her grief and anxiety.vwhy isn't she pressuring hotch and jack to get therapy?? like ughh these things don't make sense to me. also like, as benevolent as she is, i can't help but think there would be some resentment towards aaron and his job (bc she's human! and human emotions aren't rational!) which she could've worked out in therapy if cm ever gave therapy a real chance.
also today i bring to your attention.. aaron's stutter. like it's most likely tg fumbling his lines but there are at least two scenes with aaron stuttering (i watch with subtitles on and it's def present in the subs so i don't think im mishearing). and bc im an angst monster.. do you think aaron stuttering is one of his tells? or at least a physical manifestation of his anxiety. do you think he speaks in monotone bc it helps him control his stutter? and then it translates as him being emotionless bc he doesn't tell anyone about his speech impediment. but in reality the more monotone he gets the more his anxiety is building up and he goes and hides in his office and everyone things he's either really pissed off or just tired but he's actually having a panic attack up there. and like after it happens a couple of times someone finally gets a clue (im thinking penelope bc she has medical training) and they go check on him and they're just like "fuck" but at the same time they try to walk him thru it. and then she's like "aaron you stupid stubborn man" just bc i want her to 😌
UGH I KNOW!
Yeah I reckon he must have been having a nightmare, there’s no other logical explanation.
I kinda hated the way they did Route 66. I rewrote the entire thing for chapter three of aaron oop- I think it would have made much more sense if it showed Jack with Hotch and Hotch with the team because they existed before Haley. They literally wrote Beth in to give him a love interest but it wasn’t necessary!!
It would’ve been nice to see them all in therapy and also all of them being a little bit more human, I agree. Because never once does Jessica or Jack lash out and it just all felt too underdeveloped and forced.
I hated the way all of them would lie to their therapists to return to the team though. It just felt very irresponsible it’s like okay. maybe you don’t care, but if you’re not ready everyone else is being put at risk.
... you come up with some of the angstiest things. I’m leaning towards his stutter being linked to his anxiety or an actual speech impediment because he was never allowed therapy for it because his dad just thought it was him being stupid. Speaking slowly and without much tone helps it from coming through, but that takes so much energy and sometimes it’s just easier to speak normally, even though he’ll stutter.
I think Penelope would start putting things together. He always speaks monotonously and slowly. When he starts stuttering slightly, he gets very uncomfortable and usually stops talking and then excuses himself.
One time it happens and she feels horrible so she goes to comfort him and he’s on the floor of his office. Without much conscious thought, she drops to her knees beside him and is like: Tell me what you need. When he’s okay enough to speak, she’s like: Don’t worry about it. Take all the time you need.
And when he finishes speaking, she just answers his question like nothing has changed. And a few days later, she finds him a speech and language therapist that she thinks will fit. There’s no expectation. Just the offer.
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POST SERIES / LEGACIES RELATIONSHIPS.
obviously, with the events of legacies happening and how tvd / to ended, there’s a huge impact on what kind of relationships all the characters have to one another. some of them i’ve headcanoned / written pretty extensively about in threads ( the twins, stefan’s memory, klaus, etc. ) but!! this is just gonna be a semi-extensive / semi-comprehensive list of where i see caroline’s emotions / relationships with the people who survived the great tvd / to charcter massacre of 2017/2018
alaric. as far as people from her past go, ric is obviously the one she keeps in contact with most because of the twins. they’re close, and they’re definitely like The Dream Team of supernatural dealings, but they have their issues as well. i don’t imagine he tells her the full brunt of everything happening at the school bc they both know she’d come back instantly and drop all merge-research on the spot if she thought there was a present danger to the twins. so as much as they lean on one another, there’s always a baseline level of lying that goes along with it. i also imagine they have a tendency to fight a lot and butt heads about certain things as well, especially regarding the girls, his attention to them vs the rest of the school / students ( hope ), how to go about lizzie’s illness, josie’s inability to let herself take priority, and anything going on with the school. she worries a lot about him drinking or doing too much without looking out for himself. and while the girls probably know they tried to romance route, it’s pretty obvious that for the most part, they’re a platonic pair. additionally: the twins know nothing about original-ric torturing caroline in season 3, or killing her father.
bonnie. as always, bonnie is her rock. they probably stay in contact a bunch, bonnie is the one she goes to for all magical advice and help and where to go / what to try to fix the merge situation. that being said, however, she very much respects bonnie’s need for privacy and separation from mystic falls. there’s probably always going to be a bit of a strain on their relationship because of the stefan / enzo thing, but it’s not something that ever gets too far in the middle of their relationship.
damon. strangely enough, damon is probably the person she calls / goes to when she needs someone to kinda...snap her back into gear? he’s definitely not one to put a positive spin on things, or sugar coat them. and while they’ll never be best friends, they share a weird closeness of “hey we both lost like 90% of the people we loved most and that sucks.” he’s the one she goes out with on the anniversary of stefan’s death or her mom’s death, and they probably just kinda sit in mutual silence and drink. any time there’s a change in something big at the salvatore school, she’ll probably ask him for his blessing as well, bc she does want everything to be done in stefan’s legacy and damon is the one that knew stefan best.
elena. still her best friend, still super close, but she also recognizes that elena probably wants to just go on and live a normal life and start a family and be happy after everything that happened and she respects that. she’ll definitely babysit elena’s kids and help her out when she’s studying for boards and tests and stuff, but she tries her hardest to keep her continued involvement within the supernatural world far, far away from the doppelganger.
freya. obviously this one is strictly headcanon based bc as far as canon showed, caroline has never met freya, nor knows of her existence. but! it doesn’t mean they’re not networked, and she’s probably called / texted at least once to see if she has any familiarity with gemini magic and if she knows anyone that’ll be able to help break the merge curse. additionally, she’ll keep freya in her speed dial in case something happens with hope and she thinks she needs a visit from a family member.
hope. the closest way to describe how she feels about hope is to say that she loves her like a daughter, but very much recognizes that hope is not her daughter and in no way has an interest in replacing hayley as a mother figure. nor would she ever try and step into that role. she recognizes and respects how important alaric is to hope, and she’s not going to try and step into that, but at the same time she’s also 150% there to support the tribrid in whatever she needs. whether it be someone to talk / vent to, someone who can tell her the non-history books versions of her parents / family, or who just kind’ve gets it.
jeremy. again, they probably don’t talk a whole lot just because she wants to respect his distance from the supernatural community, but at the same time...he’s the closest thing to a little brother she’s ever had so you bet your buttons she’s gonna be a little bit overbearing whenever he’s in town, trying to make sure he’s happy and okay and has everything he needs, etc.
josie. her literal rock that she “never has to worry about” and yet always worries about for that very reason. she’ll always carve out extra time for josie just to try and remind her that it’s okay to take the spotlight sometimes, and speak up for herself. she’s really, really protective of her and as much as she knows josie is usually fine, she knows that --- much like elena, and herself --- every soft and caring person has their breaking point and josie, at some point, is going to reach hers.
kai. if that guy ever sets foot within a hundred miles of the twins, she’s going to skewer him and roast him on a spit.
lizzie. definitely her mini-me, almost to a fault. it’s probably “obvious” to most people that she and lizzie are close, but i imagine they butt heads pretty often because lizzie has a tendency to make some very caroline choices and as much as caroline recognizes that, she’s also not a fan of it. suffice to say, she’s 100% sure liz forbes is rolling over in her grave laughing and proclaiming that karma is a bitch.
matt. honestly? they probably fall out of touch, which sucks, but also...matt definitely doesn’t seem to have any interest or desire to stick around supernatural creatures, and she definitely respects that.
penelope. oh boy, is...probably not a fan of josie’s ex? just out of solidarity? and as much as she appreciates there being someone out there that is 100% looking out for josie’s interests at all times and is 100% team josie she’s not a fan at all of penelope’s methods of tearing down lizzie in the process. not that she’ll ever explicitly show / state it, because she’s headmistress and supposed to be unbiased here, but...yeah.
rebekah. fucking fight me on this, i guarantee they’ve met up in paris at least once or twice to go shopping / drinking / dancing to just kind’ve like...retain a sense of normalcy. they still bicker a lot. they’ll literally never stop bickering. but at this point in her life, she’s probably too tired fighting other battles to keep pretending she entirely loathes the original. pls don’t crush my rebekoline friendship dreams.
#i probably forgot people#these are just the ones that most often come up in threads#ʜᴇʀᴇ ʟɪᴇs ᴄᴀʀᴏʟɪɴᴇ ғᴏʀʙᴇs ⸺ headcanon.
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◜ ––– PENELOPE MITCHELL / CISFEMALE / 25. meet alexis gondringer. they’re a bouncer at 7-0-8. they’ve lived in chicago for eighteen years. they’re known as the determinator, because she’s vivacious and flighty.
now here’s ALEXIS, ur local messy blonde. goes by lex or lexy, just tryna live her best life.
i. aesthetic.
she is the feeling you get when you step too close to a fire. messy blonde hair and tired eyes bearing a glimmer of mischief. contagious laughter and the feeling you have lying under the night sky. vodka mixed with something sweet. cut - off shorts and flirting with the risks in life. she’s a flame burning bright and hot ; maybe destined to burn out too soon.
pinterest boiiii.
character inspiration: lexi branson, hayes morrison, sara lance, margo roth spiegelman, christina yang, peyton sawyer, kat edison. a lil bit of heather davis and gina linetti.
ii. background.
so alexis grew up in a divorced family. it’s almost sitcom - worthy, how amicable the divorce has become. after her younger sister was born when lexy was five, zane gondringer and macey dutka's relationship went down the shitter. they stayed together for a couple years following her birth, even moving to chicago from the suburbs to see if it would help. but a year after the move, they finally divorced. it was a very dramatic affair, full of thrown hair dryers and “i never really loved you, you piece of shit”s and threats to take the children. they became known in the neighborhood for their theatrical fights, tbh. so safe to say it was a big ordeal when they divorced, and once it went through, the south side celebrated right alongside them in their newfound freedom from each other. the bars were really popping that night, 19 years ago. ( and still do on the anniversary of their divorce. it’s a good excuse to drink, really )
from there on out the gondringer girls spent their years bouncing back and forth between parents only semi - fit to raise children. their mother was a drunk and suffered from bpd that went untreated, eventually affecting her relationship with her children. though lexy and her mom had never been particularly close, alexis really sealed the deal when, at fourteen years old in front of a room of witnesses, she chose to live with her dad on a more permanent basis. sure, he wasn’t perfect --- with his fake hippie outlook and random disappearing acts to travel and penchance for gambling (honestly i imagine him being like the it’s always sunny in philadelphia crew where he scams ppl and generally is a Bad Person but anywhomst) --- but he was still the parent she was closest to. her sister continued the back and forth for five more years. and when she chose, she chose to stay with their mom.
years have passed and zane and macey still don’t particularly get along, but they do get lunch every week to talk about the girls. so pleasant. damn.
honestly her upbringing was full of shenanigans and dysfunctional family moments and illegal activity and her dad’s rotating door of girlfriends
one time he deadass dated an actual, literal hitwoman for the mob in chicago. lexy and zane are here for a good time not a long time!!!!
SO NOW AT 25 she’s working at the 7 - 0 - 8 as a bouncer. tiny n fighty. lives in an apartment with probably 2 - 3 other people so there’s a connection there somewhere. always having to help her dad out of some ridiculous situation. drives this rundown ass car but BET if she’s ever gonna give valerie up!!!!
there’s probably some things i’m missing here but that’s the gist of it y’all
iii. personality.
she’s so lively and outgoing!!! incredibly social. loves fun and adventures
a lil agressive, 300lbs of fight me in a 140lb body
doesn’t know how to properly deal with her emotions!!!!
has a tendency to run when things get too hard or serious, it’s what she does
flighty as all hell tbh
epitome of “do as i say not as i do” bc she gives great advice but bet she won’t follow any of it herself ever and don’t call her out on that bc she’ll ignore you
seems carefree, but is probably actually worrying about fifteen different things at any given moment
incredibly blunt, she’ll tell you what you need to hear vs what you wanT to hear
nosy, loves playing therapist bc SHE may be playing emotional whack a mole but that doesn’t mean every else should!!
loves taking risks, v daring, a tad reckless and impulsive. impetuous
any emotions other than positive ones? cancelled
sorta unreliable ?? sorta irresponsible ?? gets it from her parents. it’s subtle though, but enough that it causes problems
which is problematic bc she’s too self - reliant for that
SHE MEANS WELL OK SHE HAS A GOOD HEART
the kind of personality and smile you could pick out of a line - up
really is trying to be a better person tho
iv. fun shit.
wants nothing more than to spend her life traveling around the usa
really into photography and painting!!!! her hidden talents. she has her pictures and polaroids and half - finished paintings all over her apartment
ripped jeans and fishnets are the move
hates wearing bras, would sooner wear a bralette or nothing
mild bisexual, as in v selective abt the guys she’s attracted to and will sleep with, mostly prefers women
indulgent, likes the finer things in life like pretty women and cheap vodka
mastered the perfect winged eyeliner
dance dance revolution and mario kart champion
insomnia city
iv. connections.
roommates!!! girl gang!!!!
flings
friends pls
dynamic inspired by stefan and lexi, i love a legendary friendship
her SISTER
dealer
idk more to come eventually
#ag. ━━ RATTLE BONES WITH YOUR EARTHQUAKE HEARTBEAT ( character study. )#windyintro#OK THERE WE GO#THERE THEY BOTH ARE
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ALRIGHT so i’m starting fresh and so i’mma do an intro.
penelope most of you already know so i’ll keep it short, tw for eating disorder:
dancer turned actress
spunky, super fun, loves drunk karaoke. always down for a good time tbh?? but don’t get her wrong, she’s not necessarily the nicest person you’ll meet
goodhearted af but ready to throw hands
super giant okay she’s like 5′10″ or 5′11″ or something ridiculous
mostly legs bc that DAnce Life
the meaner of the west siblings but even though she has a tendency to be headstrong, she’s still capable of being sweet
not amazing with feelings but fletcher has rubbed off on her ok so she’s definitely someone you can spill your guts to
and then she’ll get you nice and drunk or she’ll just hand you tissues whatever works
both of them grew up in the projects fr and their dad is a big ol’ dick so they worked odd jobs basically until they could afford to get out
most of this i’ll repeat in fletcher’s bit but yes
penelope got into a super cool dance school thanks to fletch and won a dancing show ( similar to so you think you can dance type thing )
anyways she started getting good gigs after that and became besties with parker hassan when she got hired to work on a show
since parker is #Famous, pip became #Famous by association which meant bigger gigs and more pressure and lots of eyes
this made her eating issues even worse, so she quit to check into rehab and so now that she’s back out she’s turned to acting
still highkey but doesn’t have the same pressure because it’s not her One Tru Passion . ja feel
does choreo on the side esp for zenith so you best believe she’s stuck choreographing all those musical episodes
anyways yes
AND FLETCHER
him n his sister penelope grew up in a shitty area too and pretty much raised each other.
penelope's a lot more Tuff than fletcher is, just because he's like??
ok he's not like a soft crybaby or anything lmao he's not like that at all, he's just like.. a real gentle human?? a big gentle dork?? he's almost childlike sometimes not in the way where he's Innocent but more in the way where he's really trusting and sort of oblivious lmfao
but yeah his dad’s kind of a douche and his mom’s a pushover so it’s basically penelope vs. their dad 25/8 and .. he’s the only one that really visits them for that reason otherwise it turns into a literal brawl rest in pieces
uhhh he's rich af because he was a professional gambler and it's funny BC HE'S ALSO not that smart i swear omg he asks the stupidest questions so you'd have to find that endearing to get on with him??
but he's just.. really good at this One Thing and it makes him a lot of money so he does it.
lmao he's out here gambling w these hardasses and nobody takes him seriously but he comes thru...
he’s also literally hands down the most proud person you'll ever meet when it comes to people he cares about like..... he's that Embarrassing parent that cheers way too loud when you make even a minor accomplishment lmfao
uhhh has a touch of adult adhd so he will try to cook you dinner but might set something on fire not bc he's a bad cook just bc he got distracted LMAO
but yeah he spent a lot of his time traveling to vegas to gamble and like... honestly he's a real pushover because he just?? doesn't wanna say no?? he doesn't get super distraught in terms of like "why are people taking advantage of me" he's just like "they wanna have fun i guess.. i should" and goes along with it.
so he dabbles in drugs a bit, though it’s .. nothing serious on his part as in he could 100% never do it again if he didnt have anyone influencing him. i swear they'd like convince him to go to a strip club and like he'd just be sitting there looking @ them from this chair like why did y'all do this 2 me.... patting this stripper on the head n he's sweating like "hello you're very beautiful. im sure you are a kind, smart woman.. i think i gotta go though" tips her like a fuckton just cause he feels bad and is a sweetheart nnd.... just bails out so fast bc he's like no !!
but basically he’s a big loveable idiot that never has a clue whats going on?? he wants to GROW UP and start taking life more seriously, like meet someone and have a family EVENTUALLY which he knows he prob shouldnt as a gambler idk
so he made the turn to acting w his sis and they’re so happy to work together
in general they love each other and penelope is super protective of fletcher so they’re kind of a package deal??
YUP THATS IT COME PLOT W ME
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