#VoyagerPoster

[synthwave1950]

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Tonight's Voyager: S3 Ep 9 Future's End Part 2

I've done some thinking re: everyone's 'incognito' outfits and I've decided that Janeway is dressed as a 90s lesbian bride. Her wife? Chakotay.

[lesbianmasterchief]

Coin/Tom

19 | he/it | not a girl but I support their beliefs

occasional NSFW jokes / suggestive content. no porn on main but minors probably shouldn't be following

art blog is @coin-locker-art

mutuals. add me on Discord at attention_shopperzz

fandom posts are usually tagged [#abbrev. tag], like #tlt tag for The Locked Tomb, unless the names are short enough... like #halo tag.

occasional OC tags show up as #[name]posting. as in #joanposting and #spikyposting

except my talking tag is #coinposting and I reblog conversations with mutuals under #friendposting. those are not OC posts

DNI if I don't like you

[voyageri]

Hey gang! I keep on getting followed by niche internet microcelebrities in spite of my relative nothingburger posting presence so in celebration of Rat-Detector becoming my mutual, every art I post from now on will contain a hidden rat!

One might call this a hidden game of *Rat* and Mouse, except that just sounds like a good time! So we'll call it as it is, rat detector and space probe.

Everyone else is free to play, of course, but rat detection is real serious business!

[clementine-kesh]

i hate that when i voyagerpost about da boys i sometimes feel the need to caveat it with the fact that i’m talking about the tom and harry from star trek not the tom and harry from That Series. in an ideal world everyone would immediately recognize that i’m talking about the star trek tom and harry and no one would have even heard about the other ones

[punkbxt]

dime the takes. por favor.

*gets real close to the vending machine* quiero pepsi

okay all seriousness tho imma try to do this in a way thats like idk semi respectful towards janeway but i also need yall to know i do NOT reallyf fuck with her. idk if ive explained why before but i guess here we go

unlike most people that enjoy star trek i didnt really get into it till 2018 and then the demmy hit n i had nothing but time to consume every star trek imaginable and thats how i found voyager. yeah sure make fun of me for not knowing what star trek is but i need YALL to know that it is white and usamerican culture to be raised on trek and I DONT CARE. the only reason i got into star trek is bc a white friend introduced me. all this to say i was introduced to janeways actress through oitnb red ilu so much red best evil white lady <3

anyways i know janeway gets hate for having been the only lady captain and i always preface anything i say about her with this so yall understand that this is not the reason i dislike her but in reality it doesnt help either

also its tiring as fuck to include my opposing argument but it has to be done bc ppl are like “what about- pkay but you didnt consider how- yeah but- actually youre wrong bc-“ like fuck man im doing my damndest i literally hate voicing my opinions bc yall INSIST people of color dont actually get it n its tiring

if youve followed me since i started voyagerposting you may have noticed ive only actually drawn janeway twice and its cuz as a person she rubs me the wrong way for so many reasons

janeway gets put in this impossible position of being the top of the hierarchy pyramid to a crew that doesnt think theyll ever make it home again. shes deemed a mother figure by a LOT of characters but im gonna talk abt her dynamics with b’elanna, and seven because if i were to talk about the dynamics between janeway and harry thatd have to be its own post

when i get into a show, i loooveeee knowing what was happening behind the scenes because i love it!! i love set design i love character design i love costume design i love seeing what the actors are like outside of the show and how they feel about these characters bc these things ARE important. (writers too pero i have beef) behind the scenes is the biggest influence to the final product bc its the reason the final product exists in the first place and behind the scenes so many things went wrong. and when actors are mistreated or dont get along with eachother it becomes pretty apparent. well at least if you analyze things the way i do

so heres my issue with janeway seven and b’elanna. b’elanna is typecast to be the ugly character. klingons gave always gotten the short end of the stick and the case with her isnt as harsh bc her actress is a mixed puerto rican (information that has actually only recently been revealed bc when i tried to find out what roxan’s ethnicity was in 2019 i literally could not find anything definitive except for shes latina) but she STILL gets a lot of shit

one of my favorite things about voyager before the introduction of seven was how b’elanna and janeway actually got to bond a lot over science and when seven took on the roll of pretty girl on the ship, b’elanna and janeway suffered a LOT for it. we have an interesting dynamic between a maquis engineer and a federation captain genuinely not getting along bc b’elanna doesnt see janeways as an authority figure. not until chakotay has something to say about it and also until b’elanna and janeway actually talk about shit n get over their differences. the issue is when ppl purposely skip the earlier seasons to get to seven and then a lot of important interpersonal character building is missed I SAY THIS BC PEOPLE OFTEN FORGET THAT VOYAGER HAS BEEN ASSIMILATED BY THE BORG BEFORE AND EVEN THE WRITERS LET IT SLIP THEUR MIND N ITS LIKE BRO U HAVE GOLD TO WRITE WITH N U JUST LET IT COLLECT IN THE CORNER

seven is a unique and interesting character when she is first introduced. seven looks like any other borg and is so COOL. and then immediately all the cool interesting things about the way seven looks is basically negated to a few shiny parts. and yes janeway is partly to blame

BUT! what is the easiest way to gain the trust of people who already have bad history with who you once were? assimilation of course! seven goes from being one of many to the outcasts outcast

but punkbxt! what does any of this have to do with why you dislike janeway as a character? if anything it sounds more like you dislike seven. as long as the character is white ill always hold a lil disdain for them in my heart <3

janeway symbolizes the best of starfleet. she is an accredited officer and an extremely capable scientist. she is a beautiful white woman in THE position of power something that was revolutionary for her time. the issues with white women being put in positions of power is they they have NEVER had the interests of black and brown people to heart. “yes they-“ SHUT UP and let me speak before you decide to comment on this goddamn post

feminism throughout the centuries has focused on white women and while a show is merely a fraction of the lived reality of its time the effects are still extremely clear. white feminism JUMPED at the character of janeway and celebrated her and rightfully so! the issues came about when women like b’elanna got attacked and pushed to the side. this directly affected janeway within fandom and she got and still is recognized for accomplishments SHE DID NOT DO. she got put on a pedestal and once that happens to a character they suddenly can do no wrong. except she does because shes a human and shes white and shes a character with writers behind her

b’elanna has never actually been a super popular character and the wave of love for her is actually pretty fucking recent and not to toot my own horn but i definitely was a big part of the b’elanna love resurgence. when i got into voyager and these dates ARE important, i used to scroll through her entire tag easily a couple times through a DAY. fans occasionally created art for her and yeah! she got fics but nowhere in comparison to her other peers. surrounding yourself with people who also love her and want to create for her does help with recognition of b’elanna but its super recent stuff. and to add onto that any white fan that has an opinion about her will always be biased because they just do not understand what it is like to exist as a latina woman of color

this is where me myself and i come into the story because wowowowowow star trek is so cool! star trek preaches on and on and on about diversity love acceptance hate oppression and all that good stuff so who wouldnt love it??? and then??? OMG THERES A LATINA CHARACTER IN ONE SERIES OMG OMG OMG. imagine my disappointment when i found out that she a main character barely was getting any love. it hurt. because even within a narrative of inclusion somehow characters of color just seem to always be pushed to the side. especially when a fandom has such a majority percentage of white people

watching her story was SO personal to me. i could see myself in her struggling with living in america. i lived my childhoods in puerto rico and in many different parts of usamerica, surrounded by family and people like me until that wasnt the case anymore. i spent my life living as a nomad with no place to call home for on average no less than a year and no more than three. i could understand b’elanna with her struggles of living in a klingon monastery and then being thrust into an unforgiving and unaccepting world where humans/white people are the most important. the internalized racism that i grew up with was horrendous and to this DAY i am still trying to learn and better myself and connect with my culture in any way i can. because in a black ans white world, where is the space for those of us that dont fall under either? we are ignored and erased and with b’elanna is has been the same

the rejection b’elanna had to her klingon side was something i could relate to incredibly. but it still isnt enough. because even though i could connect with her through her klingon-ness, her latinidad is simply a label. throughout the show you see her change and grow and assimilate to the federation standard and it HURT. the narrative that i was directly picking up from her story was yeah you can be a part of the club but only if you do it how we want you to do it. and dont you EVER even talk about being latino unless its to shit on your deadbeat of a father. and i did. i learned how to adapt at an extremely young age. ive been told its one of the things i do best (sad isnt it?)

and okay how do seven and janeway have anything to do with this? well they are the white women who we literally have to conform to and for. thats it period

seven as a character had an amazing opportunity to challenge gender and sexuality because of her story (one that would have been better suited had she been an indigenous woman which ive spoken on before but thats for another post too) and then the people in charge decided that she just HAD to be the sexywoman instead of leaning into just how much she was no longer human and how humanity itself doesnt actually have one right way to be

this narrative is given to us by janeway time and time and time again correcting seven and telling her that seven simply is not himan enough and still has to learn. (things autistic ppl can suuuuuper relate to which is a reason i could connect with seven at all). no matter how you want to look at it (whatever canon you want to decide isnt canon anymore for the sake of a fucking ship) janeway was directly written to be a mentor and mother figure to seven. janeway is there to help her learn when in reality she can never understand what its like to be an outcast within the federation and to take it a step further be part of a eace which is treated with hostility by humans. something b’elanna CAN understand and relate to because at the time of voyager shits still om the rocks between klingons and humans. janeway pushes seven to accept and embrace humanity as if thats the only option seven has to become a better character but its just not true. the story woven between janeway and seven is one of white women and femininity and how to be the perfect white woman and how to be a good lover. by actively ignoring the help and influence b’elanna could have provided for seven to learn and adapt to a majority human world they put all that weight on janeway. something that affects ALL three of them negatively and results in a narrative of “well b’elanna could never understand and relate to seven in a way that matters” which is beyond true because they are so interwoven even unintentionally so. it simply just wasnt taken further and its a true shame

and this isnt even touching on how badly seven’s actress was treated by janeways actress for being the pretty new doll at the time of filming and how that affected how i felt about janeway/seven as a ship (similarly how castle and beckett did not get along behind scenes i could no longer enjoy that show anymore)

i simplified this IMMENSELY and this shit is already long enough as it is so im sorry about that but yeah thats it. also sorry if things got repetitive ive been told i tend to do that when i write. these are my feelings and i am a real human behind this account so keep in mind how you react to this post. i have recieved countless hate anons most of which ive deleted throughout my short lived time as a fan of this franchise. i used to be MUCH more vocal about representation within star trek and people got mad so i left. but im back because the people that love b’elanna and that love that i have things to say about her matter so much fucking more than any angry person ever will

[chakotayblendthree]

hi sorry for being absent for so long i'm going to start voyagerposting again :)

[akissforthewholeworld]

VOYAGER!!!!! sorry i am like the 1 voyager enjoyer on tumblr haha

i agree with this review! element V isn't the best. very much early sound, entirely different band lineup (apart from Danny), and he wrote all the early stuff himself (he wrote it all until V album actually, which is why you see such a tonal change there)

im glad to see you're going through the discography! imo, ghost mile and fearless in love are by far the strongest 2 of their discography, however the rest is still very enjoyable in their own way. can't wait to see your opinions on everything else :D

I thought I should listen to Voyager's whole discography in chronological order and see how their sound has developed through their career because their older albums sound almost nothing alike their sound today. So here's my review/things that I noticed/general thoughts about their debut album, Element V from 2003.

When I was first getting into Voyager, I remember that I was hesitant to listen to their early stuff because I know that most bands and artists' early years are... usually very rough. My first impression of Voyager's old stuff did confirm this opinion. I think that early Voyager is very generic heavy metal with very little that sets it apart from everyone else. Not to mention that the mixing on some of the songs on this album is rough and the vocals seem to drown in the instrumentals a little.

However, there are good songs in here! I like the opening track, Sic Transit Gloria Mundi and the baroque-esque (?? is that a word?) hapsichord sound in it. I like how it transitions to the next song and the synths immediately after. It's such a different sound and almost whiplash-y, but it does foreshadow Voyager's evolution and chameleon-like nature. Voyager has refused to stay in a single box since day one. I love that. There's also a general medieval-ish or baroque-esque sound and lyrics for the album that invokes images of knights and high fantasy in my head that took me by surprise when I first listened to this album. It's so different from modern Voyager! It's fascinating that we got from this to the more modern synth sound in Fearless in Love.

One thing that stands out to me is that Daniel's vocals are sometimes growled, when he doesn't growl in the later albums at all. Fascinating!

Overall, Element V is not to my tastes, but I can appreciate it. There are three songs that are on my Voyager faves playlist, but the rest of the album I don't much care for. I feel bad for saying that, seeing how much I love this band lol. But then again, I know for a fact that the more I enjoy their music just increases with the evolution of their sound. I already look forward to this experiment. (Didn't say "voyage", HAH.)

[brownpaperhag]

according to my painstaking calculations and years of research captain kathryn janeway and commander chakotay *** *** in season five episode one. no sooner. i will now be taking questions.

[mouseratz]

I'm watching Voyager so that means everyone has to start voyagerposting NOW!!!! literally it's so good now the first season is a little funky but omg you guys.....watch it it's like actually good I'm not even lying even though I really could

[butchshevik]

not to voyagerpost again but im on the episode where tom forgets about b'elanna's vacation that she has spent WEEKS doing favors to plan so that he can do some stupid pilot race and the fact that this episode paints her as the one who needs to nut up and go to him with this being a problem and Support His Interests instead of him being just completely and undeniably in the wrong and ends with her getting engaged to this creep makes me so unbelievably mad... this is so written by men I cant believe it

[synthwave1950]

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Tonight's Voyager: S3 Ep 13 - Fair Trade

Wherein they hand Neelix over in exchange for some cool rocks.

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Tonight's Voyager: S3 Ep 5 - False Profits

...if there are ferengi in this episode I will be pleased but confused.

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Today's Voyager: S3 Ep2 - Flashback

Breakfast time with Neelix and Tuvok. I keep comparing these two to Quark and Odo and that isn't fair to anybody.

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Voyager First Watch: S3 Ep4 - The Swarm

Bees?