#UWO thoughts

[pocket-ghostie]

Ok, I knew that Buff Studio already had plans for Charlie in Underworld when making Underworld Office (bc of conext clues), but I didn't know HOW MUCH they knew what they were planing when they made the first game!!!!! Aaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!

(Spoilers for UwO/CiU)

First, in chapter 4, early sleep, right before Eugene gets kicked out, Boss says "I hope I never see you again."

This implies several things, Boss hopes Eugene lives a long life and/or when they die they can immediately go to 'the other side'. This also implies that Boss can't leave. Because of the door that he is in charge of guarding, he can never leave. Of course, at the end of Charlie in Underworld the door gets destroyed so Boss could leave (after a lot of work). However in this game, Boss doesn't know that's going to happen. He is under the assumption that he is going to stay in the office forever.

Furthermore, in the Peace Somewhere Beyond ending, Eugene mentions that Boss might never find peace.

This could also be because he can't leave due to the door. Although it could be argued that Eugene mentions this because Boss will never be bright, I disagree due to the end of Charlie in Underworld. Boss clearly has a desire to right his wrongs and be bright, however he can't because his duty is to protect the door. So, because of what happens in the Peace Somewhere Beyond ending, Charlie in Underworld doesn’t happen in that timeline, and the door is probably never destroyed. Which keeps Boss guarding the door forever. The door is never mentioned in Underworld Office as an obligation for Boss, as that is only revealed at the end of Charlie in Underworld. However there is plenty of evidence that the writers were thinking about this connection while making this game.

In addition, Charlie gets sealed, leading to the beginning of Charlie in Underworld. Obviously, this is a rather basic connection. However, there is more to it. They could have had Charlie escape or get torn into pieces, without Eugene interfering and letting Joan deal with Charlie. This would get rid of Charlie and give Eugene the opportunity to get Joans help and be able to call the cane later on, because Joan wouldn’t be mad at Eugene. But, Charlie was sealed so that the Office ghosts could easily get to them. It also allows and gives a reason for Charlie to lose their memories, so that the player can slowly learn about Charlie throughout the plot. Because Charlie was sealed, we got the beginning of Charlie in Underworld.

Also, I saw a post in the Underworld Office tag (idk how I would find it now) that said “Eugene choose to be a dark ghost” and it came with this image:

When I was first playing through the game, I thought this was just a fun design choice, and it might be. But if Buff Studios was already thinking about the plot of the second game and how ghosts actually work, this may be a nod to that. This could be refuted with the argument that Eugene thought he was doing good and should be a bright ghost, however this brings up several problems. First off, Buff Studios wanted to keep the conflict of how ghosts work for the second game, and also Eugene did think what he was doing was wrong. They justified it in their head because Jack was a murderer, but I guarantee that Eugene still thought that murder was bad. In fact, Eugene wanted to stop Jack in part because he was a murderer. So it would make sense for Eugene to be a dark ghost, along with the fact that Susans desire for vengeance was still in the area too.

Next, we have the fact that Boss didn’t explain how ghosts work in the beginning of the game. It was River who explained to Eugene how things work. While giving this explanation, Boss stayed silent. This could hint that Boss already knew how ghosts actually work and was staying silent in the beginning of the game. Although this can be refuted with the fact that in the second to last chapter in Charlie in Underworld, Eugene states that Boss has been getting darker because of his guilt of keeping this secret. Which means that Eugene had to have already seen Boss before to tell that he was getting darker. But since Boss got attached to Eugene, he may have felt more guilty about keeping everything a secret. Thus, making him darker when Eugene was around. Although this is an interesting theory, I disagree with it. I think Boss figured out how things actually worked either in between the two games, or the beginning of Charlie in Underworld when Charlie is unsealed. Despite this however, Boss most likely still had an idea that ghosts did not work the way he thought. I believe the fact that River explained everything rather than Boss was very intentional, and an important fact when thinking about Charlie in Underworld.

Finally, all the ghosts have images of when they were alive. At the end of every chapter, there is an image that goes along with it. (Like this one)

I believe this image changes depending on what choices are made. Some of these images show the ghosts when they were alive. Like Hayden playing with a cat, or Joan with her gun and in her soldier outfit. Through these images, it is clear that Buff Studios already planned out the ghosts' backstories. They already had their backstories planned, but they did not say anything about them. This is because they go into the ghosts' pasts in Charlie in Underworld. Further proving that they had already planned what they were going to do in the second game, and were planning on making a second game.

In conclusion, these were all the things that I found in the first game. All of these little details show how Buff Studios was already thinking about Charlie in Underworld when making the first game. They put so much thought into these games, how they would work, the worldbuilding, and the characters. Because of their care and passion for these games, it makes their world feel so real.

[turtleoncrack]

That hit hard

[cosmic-cris-draws]

New Tav go brrr This is Penance! She's a monk follower of Ilmater who has an enemies to lovers situation with Abdirak (+ also dating @m-u-n-c-h-y tav's Outis)

[inkyu]

Hey remember a few seconds ago how I said i'll doodle June Egbert? well here it is now because I'm impaient DFKGBDJHFGB

(this is my second time drawing June, my frist one is unpublished and will never see the light of day unless someone asks to see her X.X)

[fallingflowers0]

Baby, baby boy

[unidentifiedwhistlingobject]

I don't know how to make gifs but I hadn't seen anyone post this, so here's a screenshot of something I noticed in the trailer.

The left end of the U is trailing away into particles, probably sand

[laughingwith-bluelips]

I hate being bilingual. I want to write in English but I can't fucking think of a way to express a single phrase in a language that it's not Spanish. However, when I'm writing in Spanish, a random English word will came into my mind and ruin the mood

[judas-isariot]

Justin timberlake is probably a Werewolf.

[void-speaks]

As an uwo enthusiast I didn't get shit about all of that too, so I was also confused.

Since I saw some people already explained the lying and all that, I'm gonna say a word about the other things.

Btw the reason why he was called a witch is because back then Boss was a shaman, which, from what I know, it is basically connected to spirituality and stuff, but people around him treated it like he was summoning demons or something, hence the nickname.

As for Charlie, what happened with them is that, after losing their memories due to being stuck in Joan's flashback of the war, they became completely white because they've forgot everything wrong that they did, hence why River was already not pleased when seeing them, because that's not how it was supposed to work, you were supposed to pay for all your misdeeds, not just magically have them all disappear.

Then, as the time goes on and they encounter things that remind them of their life before the underworld, from what I understand, they have that sense of guilt creep up on them again, which is why they comment on little black spots appearing on their body.

Later, when Charlie becomes fully (almost) black again, it is because they've remembered and realized how much they hurt people around them, like their well-meaning mother and Mike. The tine white spot on their chest is hard to explain because we don't know why it's there, but basically it means that there is something Charlie thinks he's done right in his life or in the underworld.

And, since I didn't get it while playing the game, I also wanna say why Eugene was like that tm after finding out the lies that Boss told them.

Basically he's been taught that right and wrong deeds are determined by something else (like a code or unspoken rule or something), and there would he absolutely no exceptions to the rules. So to him it was morally wrong to give nightmares to an abusive asshole who killed his wife and probably starved his children (fuck Jack). So his entire self-confidence and sense of self was built on the fact that he thought he was doing something right, that he was helping people, when in reality that could've been far off the truth. So it all shatters and crumbles down basically.

AND, I'd like to say that you only turn into a monster if you wallow in that guilt and regret too much, if you let the negative feelings consume you until you go mad. That's the reason why Boss hasn't turned into a monster yet, despite being fully black (the eyes don't count), because he knows he's done something bad and he feels extremely guilty, and that guilt only grows the more he continues to work in the office (one of the characters comments that he's turning darker every day despite working so hard to redeem himself). It was said somewhere in the game that a ghost turns into a monster only when they go completely mad, not when enough misdeeds stuck up on them.

And, as a final point, I think that a person can cross over only when they are ready to do so/think they deserve to do it. So with River for example, she crossed over while she still had the black spots all over her, but she thought she deserved to leave finally after everything, she was ready to do so. As for Hayden somewhere between the 1 and 2 game he told us that he's only waiting to cross over or something like that.

Question since Uwo reddit ded

I'm kinda dumb so can't comprehend a story by myself. Though theres no like story analysis or story rundown of this game since it's small.

So just asking what happened in Charlie in the underworld? I understand Joan and Hayden's part.. but Charlie's, River and Bosses ending I don't understand at all.

What was Charlie's story? I get his backstory but his nickname, details, ect. I don't get. That's not important tho.

Can anyone explain Bosses backstory? Totally don't understand. Also Rivers anger and everything towards boss. She keeps talking about a muzzle on her, lying, hypocrisy, and betrayal, and getting enraged cuz of him. But I don't understand that at all. What was that all about?

I don't understand the ending or the actual truth that boss was hiding, and why he hid it in the first place. Or Rivers anger of him all these years at all.

Can anyone give me a rundown on all those events and the truth and the whys of everything? Thanks q-q.

[pocket-ghostie]

Guys help-

Ghost Eugene is literally So Fun to color... but the implications....

[kehaisntexist]

i have a little story time and the reason why i mentioned that

I was chilling in an online game where you can design a character right, and of course i made UWO eugene because i love him, and then someone came up to me and they said oh wait i played that game years ago, and then i went oh that's awesome you know this novel so we went on and on talking about it

I thought that person was like the cool ones like y'all, but deadass guess what

they suddenly mentioned about how they used to PAIRED Eugene with boss......

and chat what's even worse that they did not know there was a sequel of one of the ending ( charlie in underworld ) .......... In CONCLUSION they shipped TEEN eugene WITH boss. minor. Eugene. boss. I'm not kidding. and NO they STILL weren't ASHAMED of it and they talked about the pair as if they still love it.... oh and they also defended that one BossEugene TikTok account

[aeoni-sw]

hnnrgh I had to finish this one quick- saw the solar eclipse around 2:20-3:30 and thought: hmm could ghosts go out in the day while the eclipse is happening??

so yeah!! some uwo sillies seeing the solar eclipse! (didnt draw all of em- i was rushes lololol)

[azimuthalcoquelicot]

Please tell me I'm not the only one who thought that uwo was some sort of mix of owo and uwu and not the acronym for Underworld office.

Like I was not the only one who read #eugene uwo

and thought...

[keroradio]

It's the first of the 10 audio dramas!

This one was originally one track, but the file was too big, and the script is quite long, so I picked an unobtrusive place to separate it. I hope you don't mind it being separated like this, and will look forward to part 2 tomorrow (^.^)

K66: Pekopon Invasion CD, first story: Fight! Pekopon Soldier, complete collection, yes sir!

N: Fight! Earth Soldier, the first is the "Super Natsumi Appears" volume

N: The Keron army base built in secret deep beneath the Hinata house, there and now a fearsome plot was hurriedly, and roughly progressing.

K66: Well then, the me that until now has been spaced out and making gunpla every day has deceived you!

The time to seriously return to invading Pekopon has come

TMM: Mr Sergeant is- M: Uncle is burning!

K66: Eh? Ahh! Hot hot hot!

N: That's burning too much

TMM: Setting that aside, Mr Sergeant, if we conquer Pekopon, I want to ban rice and bread! Then we'll make it all cake, and make cola flow from the taps, I think that would be good!

G66: Well I think P.E. in Pekopon's elementary schools should be made 12 hours each day. Of course, during summer it would be alright to be late or cause trouble, at long you get strong.

966: Ku ku ku, if it were me, I'd teach them evil science and eventually build an army of evil cyborgs.

D66: I, yes, would cultivate bountiful hearts-

K66: Hey, uh! I would, um! I'd add gunpla to the curriculum to teach children the joy of making them! (1)

D66: I think empathy should-

K66: Let's do it!

D66: Uh-

Kerokerokerokero

TMM: Tamatamatamatama

G66: Girogirogirogiro

966: Kurukurukurukuru

D66: Well, alright, good sir. Dorodo-

M: Surveillance system anomaly! It's an intruder! They've made it past security systems one, two, and three! You could say, deep infiltration?

K66: No way! Seriously!?

TMM: Is it an enemy alien?

G66: Geh, I'll face it!

K66: Giroro!

G66: You guys, hurry and get out of here!

If it comes, I'll- argh!

TMM: Uwaa! Mister Corporal was taken out before he could do anything!

(Sounds of Giroro being brutalised)

K66: Just what kind of thing is-

723: I see through your ambitions!

K66: Uwo~

723: Today I put a damper on the ambitions of heinous aliens! The mysterious Earth soldier, and that name is: Super Natsumi, appears!

K66: What?

TMM: Su

G66: Per Natsumi, is it?

N: The form standing before the heinous alien Keronians is that of the mysterious soldier, Super Natsumi. What is his-that's is, her true identity? If you want to hear, wait for the next part. ------

N: We're back

K66: So fast!

N: Either way, second is "Super Natsumi's Defeat" volume

723: Today I put a damper on the ambitions of heinous aliens! The mysterious Earth soldier, and that name is: Super Natsumi, appears!

N: The form the Keronians saw before them was that of the mysterious Earth soldier, Super Natsumi! Now, with her super powers she'll do what she will to evil doers!

K66: Well, that's probably Natsumi-dono, right?

723: Naive. Aren't you naive? Written as Seven, two, three, and read as Natsumi, no relation to the girl you know

TMM: It really suits you, Natchi

723: Wh-what? Anyway, I won't let you guys just do what you want!

K66: You're so arrogant, Super Natsumi!

723 (mentally): He he, it's just as I thought. As long as I have this shining faster than light power suit I got from Kururu for 3 installments of my allowance....

723: Here I go! Na. Tsu. Mi! Super Natsumi, seven hundred and twenty three special powered, inescapable "rock" punch! (2)

TMM: She's using rock instead of paper!?

966: That one's really earnest, written as earnest, read as serious (3)

723: Tera~

What? No way! I can't move!

K66: Gero, gero, gero, gero.

723: Could it be?

966: Ku ku ku. After all, I'm the top Keronian. The shining faster than light power suit, it was designed so I could freely control it from the outside with one flick of this switch.

Action, cue~!

723: I don't-....My body's somehow-....Stop it!

K66: Gero gero gero gero! How delightful!

723: Hey!...(struggling)...It's embarrassing...this is!

G66: Waugh!

K66: In addition, this month's song, come on!

(Pekopon Invasion Ondo starts playing)

723: Even though I don't want to dance, I'm dancing~!

K66: Gero gero gero gero! It's too bad you can't see this because it's a CD, her pose is ridiculous!

723: Uwo!....Iya!....I'm glad...ugh...it's a CD!

K66: Then, next we'll make you strike the most embarrassing pose in space!

966: Roger!

723: Wait- Stop it~!

G66: Wait, Keroro, that pose is....ah....

TMM: Mr Corporal is bright red, this one too

G66: It's just that pose~!

FYK: Pardon me! I came to- from a survey company!

D66: A marketing survey, good sir?

K66: Or so they say, but there's no mistaking they're really delivering the limited number HG company with missles I ordered from net tsu, yes sir!

FYK: Ah, excuse me, don't mind my intrusion!

K66: Yes?

FYK: On that note. Wait a minute~!

Aiding Super Natsumi, the peace of earth will be saved by this second great Earth soldier, Miracle Fuyuking!

K66: What!?

TMM: Miracle Fuyu

G66: King? You say

N: Coming to Super Natsumi's aid, a second great Earth soldier, it's Miracle Fuyuking! Don't give up, Fuyuking! The future of Earth depends on you!

D66: Saying that, isn't this Fuyuki-dono?

N: To be continued!

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1-Like in the intro drama, Keroro uses a younger sounding form of "I" than usual here

2-The words used aren't the normal ones for stone (ishi) and paper (gami), but specifically for rock paper scissors

3-This is based on kanji & furigana, the latter being when kana are put next to a kanji to show how it's pronounced. We usually think of it being used in publications for children or teenagers to help make a word easier to read or look up, but it's also used in cases where a word borrowed from another language is used to tie the unfamiliar pronunciation to the meaning, or a word is said differently from normal, or to add further meaning.

The last is what Kururu is referring to, where you write the kanji for one word that applies, but the furigana for a more accurate word, or one with your additional meaning. This one was a bit tricky since both words can mean serious, but different degrees, so I went with a different translation.

[strgzrcharles]

Underworld office video essay update 2:

I've made some short character analysisis (that can't possibly be how that word is actually spelt)

This way I'll have my initial thoughts on the characters to refer to when I go through their in-game actions.

I've also added to my overall script and I will have finished my analysis of chapter 1 of UWO soon. :}

(I have quite a lot of work this week so I'll upload some sketches instead of full drawings for this week)

[neutrallyobsessed]

HELLA toxic Krisnix 🗣️🔥

DINGDINGDING! PASSES THE VIBE CHECK (5)

What made you ship it?/Why don’t you ship it?

There's just enough subtext and unanswered things that makes you think that something's DEFINITELY going on between them! I don't personally think is a romantic/sexual situation but I still enjoy people's interpretation and fanworks ^^

What are your favorite things about the ship?/What would have made you like it?

It's lawyer/lawyer. It has battle of wits and dominance, and banter and mind games and gaslighting and assasination plots and manipulation and half truths and it's literally so fun. It kinda is the dynamic nrmt should have but since it doesn't, nrkr ends up being the better ship, they could look like they're having a heated but otherwise healthy debate, even when it sometimes isn't hehehe x3 Them being on the same team is what I def love the most basically

Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?/Despite not shipping it, do you have anything positive to say about it?

FOREVER DEAL! NO TRANSITIONAL PERIOD! NO EXES NO DIVORCE! NO P/E>P/K>P/E! DO NOT INVOLVE MILES IN ANY WAY! IT STARTS AND ENDS WITH KRISNIX BECAUSE PHOENIX HAS A SELF DESTRUCTIVE SENSE OF LOVE AND KRISTOPH LOVES DESTROYING PEOPLE (mostly mentally but physically as well xd) KRISNIX STOPS WHEN IT KILLS ONE OR BOTH OF THEM!!!!!! Or they could be happy togheter forever too, I do prefer that more ;P

Krisnix tastes like: Box Wine! You can claim a sense of sophistication for the wine all you want but it will inevitably kill you one of these days. It is too inexplicably delicious and addictive thought, so I don't blame you~~ uwo