#Tw CSEM

[nyancrimew]

absolutely cannot believe i need to say this, but ABSOLUTELY DO NOT email me or anyone else a list of links to CSEM on tumblr unprompted (or at all), even if your goal is just to get rid of it (which to be clear is not something i can help with whatsoever). you are putting both yourself and me at massive risks for absolutely no reason, if you stumble upon materials like that you either report them to tumblr or an actual org dedicated to dealing with stuff like this (and also only if their instructions specifically say to do so). investigating it yourself and even worse, sending it to random people, puts you (and anyone you send it to) at massive legal risks, don't do it.

[sals-geno]

Something I hate is that people will say shit like lolicons are pedophile, while defending shit like Cuties.

[thecherubprince]

heres your reminder that the proper term for "CP" (child porn) is CSAM/CSEM. when you describe it as "porn", you disregard the fact that for 1. porn is consensual and 2. that its not a crime. the whole reason it was called child porn, is because the people you try to incriminate (sexual predators), treat it like a porn category. the whole reason the term exists is because of predators, and by using that term, you aren't recognizing that it's trying to cover up exploitation.

[kickpedosoutofyourbar]

was thinking earlier about the fact that i see sooo many posts from radqueers and adjacent people about how minors (particularly preteens/teens) do experience sexual attraction and try to use that as a justification for sexual contact with them.... it's such bullshit

especially since i was precocious I'm very well aware that, yes, kids can experience these things and I am not at all trying to say they don't or shouldn't, but also as a victim of CSA god do i fucking wish i was allowed to discover my sexuality on my own terms. my perception of sex, vulnerability, and my body was completely warped by adult predators and i am, to this very day, trying to unlearn it. children should feel safe to explore themselves and their sexuality by themselves or with others of their age if they wish, without outside pressure from adults who only view them as a sex objects!

[granulesofsand]

Evidence We Didn’t Take

🗝️🏷️ stalking, SA, CSEM, mention of sex toys in orange (start and end: The one pice of evidence…show we had.)

This is maybe a therapy thought, but therapy is gonna be busy✨this week.

We have a problem with not documenting evidence of our abuse because we assume we won’t be believed.

An example that comes to mind is stalking. We’ve been through that more than once, but one time we were regularly in therapy and most frequent fronters knew about our abuse history. Two or three men were showing up in places we needed to be exactly when we needed to be there.

We are medium trusting in two extremes, either I would die for you or I will put in effort to avoid you. These guys wore garments we were conditioned to respond to, so we initially avoided them to not creep them out. When they became more of a fixture, we were more inclined to dodge.

And that’s why we think it was stalking, because they went out of their way. Sometimes they walked behind us for like ten minutes, following while we took weird turns and crossed streets. If they were going the same place, they inconvenienced themselves doing it our way. Standing in doorframes for an hour, looking out. Always where we were going. Taking pictures with us in frame where there was nothing of interest to photograph. Once they were all together, and they passed a nearly empty elevator to try to get on with us. We went without our notebook that day. So many mildly weird things, not really anything huge.

I could’ve taken a picture. That was a safety idea we had. See the guys, take a picture. Kinda invasive, but they seemed to be doing it to us. It would’ve illustrated how often they were there, that they were behaving oddly, that situationally we were right to be distressed. But I never did. I told my therapist: “Even if I do have proof, proof of what? That bald white guys exist?”

I wasn’t sure then that it was stalking, and I’m still not now. It was very mild for our experience, no break-ins or getting snatched. That was also why I was so careful, because those were scary and I didn’t want a repeat. But when I tell people, they don’t believe me. One asked “are you sure that wasn’t a dream?” Pictures would’ve been something, some proof. At least that I didn’t make the guys up.

Our family has occult paraphernalia in the home, or did for years. The one time I thought I should document that and was there to do it, everyone was in the room with the storage boxes and I didn’t try to get past them.

We don’t have any of the clothing we were abused in. I’ve never found any CSEM with us in it (or any at all), but I know some of the things we were wearing to the venue. We don’t have any photos of us before we got a cell phone and have never seen the photo albums that supposedly existed.

The one piece of evidence that we do have is a sex toy we were abused with. It wasn’t one of the… communal(?) ones. I’ve never tried to explain that before. It wasn’t a gift. We got it during puberty with a secret gift card, and they found it. It was one of two that came with us when we left. It’s glass, and someone dropped it at exactly the right angle to crack a chunk off. It’s oddly sentimental, so I don’t want to throw it away, but it’s dubious on body safety now. One more thing I won’t even be able to show we had.

It feels like the only evidence I have now is this body I carry around everywhere I go. Just me, the others, and the vessel we’re stuck in.

It stings. But most people don’t believe us anyway, and what we could’ve shown wasn’t enough for court. It’s just us now. No one will ever know like we do.

[giggleboxstudios]

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING.

BABIES SHOULD NOT BE FUCKING‼️‼️

[us-the-voices-and-more-voices-2]

Things we’ve seen because I’ve been online since we were little

A surprising amount of death cults, death cults are a super big part of internet culture and history. notable one is the church of euthanasia which I honestly respect for being upfront about the whole death cult shit unlike the other ones.

a vast array of CSEM, and actual unironic CSA videos how idk, why idk. I was 7 who the fuck knows.

the most gruesome, the most violent, the most brutal animal abuse that haunts my dreams and waking nightmares. *SCREAM*

terrorism. So much terrorism. Such an incredibly dangerous and large amount of terrorism. Videos and propaganda and death and destruction, it’s not even funny I’ve seen this shit since I was a babe. I still see it on YouTube I still see it on all sorts. Why the fuck is it there.

Cannibalism somehow, idk how just know we have seen a fair amount somehow.

so many dead bodies. So many dead people so many dying and dead bodies and people and ohubuohbouhbuhoboubhuohboub

zoos and necro’s, and like real fucking weird and fucked up stuff. Ugh 😑

and more stuff I don’t remember rn!

[shrimpmandan]

The current state of AI discourse is baffling to me because I swear to god some people are just developing collective amnesia and dismissing AI art as "not actually being that bad" when the problems with it are significantly deeper than whether or not it's "real art". It being "real art" is irrelevant to it causing tangible harm. Like yeah I don't think someone AI generating an image to use as a reference is some massive evil, but in the greater scheme of things:

AI art is being used to spread actual real-world misinformation. Propaganda.

Ai art is being used to spread CSEM and other forms of revenge porn. It is also threatening the livelihoods of sex workers to some degree.

People are putting their favorite artists' works through a blender, without their consent, instead of paying them, because image generation is instant dopamine.

Big corps are trying to use AI instead of paying artists/writers because they're greedy fucks.

Most AI programs (with few exceptions) are scraping from existing works without the consent of the original artists.

AI voices are doing the same.

A common argument I've seen is comparing these things to like... digital art, photo editing*, voice splicing. You have to understand that the merit of these things isn't that "they take more time/effort". Effort is not an inherent facet of art. Plenty of tools exist to make art easier that we take for granted now-- many forget the discourse that kicked up when digital art was first gaining popularity. The issue is and always will be consent. Most artists do not want their works or voices to be put into AI databanks. The fact that most AI programs do not care for this, and that a lot of companies are trying to swindle their way into getting artist consent under the pretense of "well they didn't say no", is the main issue. We completely lost the plot when we started focusing more on "is AI art real art?" and "is it bad to use AI for any purpose?", because those are both irrelevant to the question of "is AI harmful?", wherein the answer is yes. This is also failing to consider that "real art" can also cause harm for similar reasons: sexual harassment/revenge porn, defamation, propaganda, etc.

*As a note, this is also ignoring the fact that a lot of people DON'T want their art to be edited or even heavily referenced. It's been commonplace in art usage terms for ages now. This is important to note in the context of AI discourse and copyright law. I also believe there is a difference between voice splicing and AI voices since splicing is more limited and way less likely to get someone actually defamed or 'replaced' as a voice actor, and is just a manipulation of existing voice clips mostly for silly shitposts.

AI CAN be helpful. AI can be used to create references, or make smoother rendering, or even just for fun. A lot of people used AI programs in their baby stages without thinking about how the images were generated or the actual consent of the artists involved, because it was a fun shiny new toy. I also like to think most people who have the means to pay an artist ultimately would. But the issue is not and never has been AI making art easier, or people using it for silly shit, or even people using it for serious art refs. The issue is AI mass-scraping existing artwork, being used to facilitate misinformation, and screwing artists out of jobs. Don't even get me started on AI fucking generating CSEM, or revenge porn, and additionally how it impacts the careers of sex workers.

AI is an issue in its current state. Yes, the panic about it taking over art as a whole was overblown, even if the fears were valid. The capacities of AI art is almost always slightly below the capacities of human-made art, and it's something that will quickly fall in popularity once it stops being the shiny new thing. People using AI to make art easier aren't the enemy either, especially since this can be beneficial for people who do it as a job-- shortening the labor time and all. That doesn't mean AI isn't an issue and that everyone critiquing it is actually just an elitist ableist cuck or whatever. None of this really would've been a problem if not for the mass scraping, resulting in both violations of artist consent, and also it picking up genuinely illegal/nasty content. That's what we should be focusing on. None of this "real art" bullshit.

All that said: I personally would say that using most AI programs-- no matter the purpose-- is unethical because of how most of them function. The only exceptions would be for programs that specifically use consensually obtained data. On this front, I would highly recommend keeping tabs on Adobe Firefly, since it's one of the very very few models out there that has stated a clear commitment to not violating the copyright and consent of artists or persons (it operates off of stock footage and public domain).

[coining-system-terms]

hi! I was reading through your ramcoa (oea) =/= programming faq and saw some terms i am not familiar with : ISSTD + CSEM ? I was wondering what they stand for, thank you in advance!!!

The ISSTD is The International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation.

CSEM is child sexual exploitation material. Do not use the term "cp" ever.

[the-path-to-redemption]

I just remembered an event where I was reminded of how stupid and performative antis can be.

There was this one comment thread on Twitter where an anti was raving about an artist drawing Kakashi x Naruto under one of their art posts, and calling them a pedophile and the likes, comparing the artist's doujin of the pairing to be CSEM . Standard anti shit.

But what blows my mind the most was...the anti proceed to not only screenshot the cover of said doujin, but also post it in their comment thread for everyone there to see...

This person claims that the artist was making CSEM via ship art, yet the anti not only saved it in their inventory, but distributed to others to see publicly???

IF IT WAS REALLY CSEM, THEY WILLINGLY DISTRIBUTED IT TO POSSIBLY DOZENS OF PEOPLE PUBLICLY WHILE CRYING ABOUT THE ARTIST BEING A PEDO.

Antis have no fucking brain cells istg.

[cringetopiamusic]

BEWARE OF USER CRINGETOPIAMUSIC BILLY / KEVIN ⚠

@cringetopia-music IS 14 YEARS OLD. HE IS BORN FEBRUARY 2010. HE IS LYING ABOUT HIS AGE ONLINE (CLAIMING TO BE 20) AND SENDING ILLEGAL MATERIAL OF HIMSELF TO ADULTS VIA DISCORD. HE IS A SERIAL LIAR & MANIPULATOR. HE WILL LIE AND USE YOU TO GET WHAT HE WANTS. HE IS A HIGHLY VULNERABLE MENTALLY ILL INDIVIDUAL WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS FOR THE SAFETY OF HIMSELF & OTHERS. DO NOT INTERACT AT ALL COSTS!!! IF YOU SEE HIM POSTING ANYWHERE ONLINE AFTER THIS POST WAS MADE, PLEASE CONTACT THIS BLOG, HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE ONLINE ANYMORE. (I HAVE PROOF AND WILL DM TO THOSE WHO NEED IT.) THANK YOU AND STAY SAFE!

[thealiceofwonderland]

I can't stop blaming myself for getting groomed as a kid. I was so young but I still should have known better. I remember his words every time I have a fawn response, knowing that's what he liked most about me. I feel sick and can't make it go away.

[granulesofsand]

Paraphilia Discourse

🗝️🏷️ with shipcourse and kink discourse, slight discussion of CSEM and SA

I’m not in the habit of hiding things from the internet, and this is not a privacy concern.

I don’t understand the discourse stance of anti-para. I’m willing to learn, if people are willing to talk. I’ve been under the impression that paraphilias are involuntary and oftentimes incurable. Paraphiles aren’t always disordered, and no paraphilia requires harm — that’s not to say that harm doesn’t happen, but even paraphilic disorders can be diagnosed on distress alone. There’s a difference between being triggered by paraphilias and being against their existence.

This ties heavily into shipcourse, in that non-exploitative media (media detached from real life, with no harm to a subject required to produce it) is a good deterrent from acting on dangerous paraphilias. Statistically, I don’t doubt that more consumers of said media will engage in harmful contact than the general populace. I also know that many consumers won’t engage because they have the media to substitute contact.

Same for kink, consent means any harm is accounted for and accepted with enthusiasm. Aftercare is the expectation, which is important because it is lack of tending to that turns overwhelm to trauma.

Paraphiles, people with paraphilias and paraphilic disorders, are still people. I say that as someone who has been forcibly involved in paraphilias, primarily in childhood, who has been used in CSEM and marketed for what my abusers called kink. I’m not over it, it has warped everything I am and could have been and will ever be, and it cannot be undone even as I heal. But that doesn’t make paras (philes or philias) inherently evil.

[antiradqueer]

Addition to the stuff about kandiqueer

/PT Addiction to the stuff about kandiqueer /end PT

i thought this needed its own post as people who rebloged it already were less likely to see the new shit, i recommend seeing the first post before reading/rbing this

on the first post(link) i talked about how those who call themselves kandiqueer belive that children and animals can consent, always pro/complex contact and never anti-contact for all paras, aswell as alot of other disgusting stuff

well now, on that coining post it said it also supported "MSM/MMP" and ive been looking for what that means for a while, but thanks to someone helping on that carrd, we found it and its just as bad.

cw: cp/csa/csem

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the term kandiqueer supports cp. yeah. on top of them thinking minors and animals can consent..

the emoji code associated with this term is 🫧🌈, 🪱🌈, or 🖍🌈

if you see the term kandiqueer or these acronyms on a radqs blog or in similar context, or you see the emoji code in the right context (not like just someone using emojis), please report them and warn your peers. these people are dangerous.

just goes to show how dangerous radqs can really get

[chloroformcurry]

A rather heavy experimental piece. Could count as oc content and as something applicable to a real life issue igs. I hope I took all the right precautions on the tags 🙏

[shrimpmandan]

I think at this point anyone who calls themselves a proshipper but is like, staunchly aggressively no-matter-what anti-RPF is either deluding themselves or thinks that the concept of "real people being reimagined as fictional characters" hasn't existed for decades at this point.

Everyone was fucking raving about Hamilton and Clone High barely a few years ago. A lot of extremely famous, influential movies are based off of real people, such as The Wolf of Wall Street. Every single fucking cartoon you've seen that references a real life historical figure like Cleopatra or Napoleon is technically doing RPF to some degree. THE MAGIC FUCKING TREEHOUSE IS RPF.

All this is ignoring how much we WORSHIP AO3, but-- but but, the founder of AO3 very much supports RPF. And by supports I mean they actively WRITE RPF. Tons of American Idol stuff that's all obscenely popular!

Now of course, there's gonna be some people who have a kneejerk rebuttal about how it's "different" with historical figures, that it doesn't matter because they're all dead, or that movies and books are different from fanfiction that may or may not be sexual. Except all of those arguments make absolutely zero sense when you think about them for more than two seconds.

Shouldn't the subjects being dead make it... more disrespectful, on a base level? You could made a valid case that with historical figures, nobody is left alive to mourn them. In comparison, people who have died relatively recently still have loved ones alive to mourn their deaths, and who would very likely be negatively mentally impacted by stumbling across an RPF fic. Understandably so--

but wasn't our whole argument that other people's feelings are their own to deal with, and not our responsibility?

You can make a similar case for serial killers, too. The victims of Jeffrey Dahmer still have friends and family that are alive. I would imagine they wouldn't want to see posts sexualizing or glorifying him-- but I doubt they're seeking out anything related to him /at all/, frankly. And then we're back to point one about how all that matters is that shit is consistently tagged and that people simply don't read what they don't like.

In my opinion, the sole, sound argument against RPF would be sexual RPF of minors. Even if no contact or even grooming is happening: that is still sexual content of a living minor. That is CSEM. That is a completely valid thing to be against. I honestly fail to see why sexual drawings of real minors are illegal, but not writings. Still, writings and drawings do not involve the same amount of /direct/ abuse as 'regular' CSEM and CSA, but making the argument of psychological harm is fair, especially when this is a case of a child being directly sexualized against their will.

But then we're still back to square one.

Don't like don't read.

Honestly, I'm neutral on RPF. I'm against anything that involves a sexualized depiction of a real child, and I'm generally not super interested in or comfortable with reading fics about real people, but it's also not a topic I can just disassociate myself from and say that it's somehow disconnected from proshipping. It isn't. Proship communities are built off of the backs of RPF shippers, like it or not. And honestly, I couldn't care less so long as the shipper in question is still respectful of the privacy of the subject(s) they're writing about. The version of the person they're writing is fundamentally not real, and that's a weird thing to wrap your head around. One could even argue my own reasons for singling out child sexual RPF is hypocritical or contradictory, and I wouldn't disagree. I think having mixed feelings on the subject is understandable. But being completely, over-archingly against it due to knee-jerk discomfort? It just seems a bit silly to me.